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November 21, 2008 6:13 AM PST

Apple releases iPhone 2.2 update

by Marguerite Reardon
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Apple released a hefty update for the iPhone on Thursday night.

The 2.2 software update is available through iTunes, and it's packed with lots of goodies. Apple released its 2.1 software update in September.

Some of the highlights of the update center on GPS and Google Maps. For example, version 2.2 includes Google Street View in Google Maps, which allows users to see a 360-degree view of locations taken with cameras mounted on Google's cars. It also added walking directions in Google maps with information on public transportation stops.

In addition, the iPhone can now download podcasts over the air using a Wi-Fi or 3G network. Previously, users had to download podcasts into iTunes on their computers and then sync their files. Now iPhone users can also turn off the auto-correction on the virtual keyboard, which I must say is a nice alternative to allowing the iPhone to guess what you're trying to type.

Other improvements include a bug fix for scheduled e-mail fetching, improved stability and performance for the Safari Web browser, improved phone quality to reduce dropped calls (hooray!), and improved sound quality in visual voice mail messages.

But there are still lots of things missing--for example, cutting and pasting. And the iPhone still doesn't support MMS messaging nor does it have GPS turn-by-turn directions.

Marguerite Reardon has been a CNET News reporter since 2004, covering cell phone services, broadband, citywide Wi-Fi, the Net neutrality debate, as well as the ongoing consolidation of the phone companies. E-mail Maggie.
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by Perry_Clease November 21, 2008 6:52 AM PST
"But there are still lots of things missing. For example, cutting and pasting is still missing. And the iPhone still doesn't support MMS messaging nor does it have GPS turn-by-turn directions."

Marguerite you forgot the biggest whine, no Flash on the iPhone.

Cutting and pasting? Maybe that is something about which I could care.

As to MMS it is not big a deal that it is missing.

GPS turn-by-turn directions, that is real a back burner item. In the meantime learn to read the map, learn about how block numbers work.
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by ibeetle November 21, 2008 7:20 AM PST
Do you know you mentioned the same three things three times.

And yet without all those must have or fail items the iPhone is the number one Cell phone on the market and has the highest in customer satiation outside the "tech" world. Who hates the iPhone, and at a compleat loss of its suscess.

Even MacWorld called Apple incompetent. The number one music retailer, the number one digital music retailer, the number one cell phone, the highest in customer satisfaction, desktop and laptop market share increasing. I bet more investors wish their company was as incompetent as Apple.
by Perry_Clease November 21, 2008 7:27 AM PST
"Do you know you mentioned the same three things three times."

No I don't, where?
by drhamad November 21, 2008 8:11 AM PST
I thought there were 3rd party companies releasing turn-by-turn apps? I haven't looked lately, but I thought there had been.

I agree, MMS, while nice... not really missing it, when you can get e-mails.

C&P, Flash, those are big deals. C&P especially if you want to get into the business world, with copying between e-mails or webpages or whatever to show a point/etc.
by rfahy November 21, 2008 9:21 AM PST
Re your "learn about how block numbers work" dont' assume the entire world works the same way America does or the way your country does. Not ever city in the world was built with blocks and grids. You try navigate around Dublin or London or any other older city and you'll see what I mean.

Plus, wasn't turn by turn navigation promised / strongly rumoured to be in the 2.2 release? With turn by turn navigation the iPhone would subsume one more role that up to now you'd need a separate device for. It's already an MP3 player, phone, camera, and video player all in one, add in GPS turn by turn navigation and that's more incentive for people to buy it, I would have thought.

You're right about MMS though, it's only ever been a half step between normal text and email in my opinion, something that was never going to be around longterm, maybe Apple are banking on it disappearing over the next few years as more and more phones become smart.
by make_or_break November 21, 2008 6:50 PM PST
Boy, some people--aka fanboys--get SO defensive.
by Perry_Clease November 21, 2008 7:35 PM PST
"Re your "learn about how block numbers work" dont' assume the entire world works the same way America does or the way your country does. Not ever city in the world was built with blocks and grids. You try navigate around Dublin or London or any other older city and you'll see what I mean."

I have been to cities, East and West, like that and yes it is a pain in the ass to get around when you don't have local knowledge. However, I stand by my statement .
by AZNpeoples November 21, 2008 8:57 PM PST
ibeetle, u do know that in europe and asia the iphone is not the leading phone and they hav phones much better than that. Think outside the box
by big.mouth November 22, 2008 8:24 AM PST
Stop making excuses for Apple's paternalism. If you can't see the need for copy and paste, you really don't need a smartphone.
by D3vildog699 November 23, 2008 7:14 AM PST
Speak for yourself, most everyone i know has MMS with a 50 dollar phone, a phone at this price should be able to do it.
Lack of MMS is the reason i will not buy an iphone, my friends don't have the ability to send me any pics over email to get on my phone. They use MMS, therefore i want MMS.. not to mention certain bonuses it can provide with the G/F
by Fil0403 November 23, 2008 8:27 AM PST
Yep, afterall that's what a "smartphone" is all about, missing features and making life harder to the user.
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by ejkutney November 21, 2008 6:55 AM PST
Good info as I've come to expect - I'm interested in the Apple I phone 3G vs the Blackberry Storm. - Have you done a comparison and where can I see the data on your research. thank you, Emery Kutney
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by LLRoberts2009 November 21, 2008 7:06 AM PST
I am SOOOOOO tired of Steve Jobs destroying Apple. The Iphone is great and could do so much but we still do not have something simple like oh I don't know... Maybe..... COPY AND PASTE!!!!
Come on Apple what is your problem.... And what about Flash? Adobe made it, they are sitting on it waiting for you clowns to allow it. And how about turn by turn for the GPS in which there are applications ready for that too that you still have not approved! Stop limiting the phone so much Steve. I know you are the only reason this stuff is not out yet. You think you have to keep your thumb on everything because you have an over inflated ego the size of China. Why make a phone that can be a power house to only make it ride in a wheel chair? Release Flash, Release turn by turn and give us something as simple as copy and paste and enjoys the profits instead of acting like an overlord.
Get with it Apple before you screw up again like you did in the 80's when every school had an Apple...
You got a big ego then and before you knew it everybody left you in the dust... It took how long to make a come back? Give the people what they want.
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by ibeetle November 21, 2008 7:15 AM PST
Sounds like someone did not take his Ritalin this morning before he went to school.
by ballmerisanape November 21, 2008 7:17 AM PST
Apple failed in the 80s because they let Steve Jobs go and licensed their os.

Copy and paste would be nice.. but would use it probably once a week or so.

I (and many others) think flash on the iPhone/touch would be disastrous to the web experience. 99% of flash is web ads. I don't want flash ads ruining my web experience.
by drhamad November 21, 2008 8:13 AM PST
Steve Jobs is destroying Apple because of a lack of C&P in the iPhone? I mean, I want C&P, but I don't think that's the be-all end-all of the world.

I'm not sure why turn-by-turn should be an Apple issue at all, actually. Leave that to the nav companies. In fact, I know Tom-Tom has said they're working on one, among others.

I do wish Flash would get released.
by abcd9009 November 21, 2008 8:43 AM PST
Apple NEVER gets it right the first or the second time. Third time has always been a charm for Apple.
Example #1- First the iPod then the iPod Photo and FINALLY the iPod Video.
Example #2 - 1st Generation Nano - OK... 2nd Generation... *** with that small screen... 3rd Generation... FINALLY the right one with screen size big enough and the choice of colors.

As for iPhone... Living in the 21st Century where the rest of the world is moving towards 4G and what Apple does... 1st Generation iPhone doesn't even support 3G??? 2nd Generation supports 3G AND has the App Store HOWEVER still doesn't have the very basic feature COPY AND PASTE. I CAN GUARANTEE IT WILL BE IN 3rd GENERATION.
by Mistr13Unlucky November 21, 2008 5:13 PM PST
Actually Steve Jobs is doing a phenomenal job! The reason as to why their is no flash is because it would slow down the iPhone. Adobe has made programs but are actually still trying to make a quicker program. Would you rather have a slow ass downloading phone with flash, or a quick one with no flash? Please believe that when Adobe creates a faster flash version, it will be inserted into the iPhone. Time and patience guy. As for Copy and Paste, how many other phones do you know can take a screen shot and email. Enjoy what you have, if you are not satisfied go get a blackberry. THANKS APPLE
by AJ Pants November 23, 2008 3:27 PM PST
lol @ "Steve Jobs destroying Apple"
by jchandlerhall November 24, 2008 9:52 AM PST
Allowing Flash will also open up a 'backdoor' to installing and running applications without using The App Store. Apple is making a ton of almost pure profit whenever people buy a 3rd party app.

They'll never allow Flash as long as it makes it possible for an application developer to install their flash game by merely visiting a flash-embedded site.
by badmojo42 November 21, 2008 7:16 AM PST
Emery - the storm will have google 2.3.2 after you install it. video camera, turn-by-turn gps thanks to Verizon. cutting and pasting and MMS as well as all the features the iPhone has except the app store, iTunes and crappy AT&T service. only thing missing on the Storm - WiFi. good thing about that is your battery will last a lot longer...
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by philrgessler November 21, 2008 7:39 AM PST
Who said it had turn by turn? do u have a link?
by badmojo42 November 21, 2008 7:59 AM PST
application called VZNavigator from Verizon
by jhawk95 November 21, 2008 8:40 AM PST
badmojo42

Yes, and your battery will run longer too if you only use your phone for phone calls and nothing else? What is the point there. If all you want is your battery to stay charged, never turn the damn phone on.
by lgoldbaum November 21, 2008 7:25 AM PST
Forget about frills like turn by turn GPS--what about a TO-DO LIST??? How could a device being marketed as a PDA/smartphone not have a to-do list that can sync with a desktop? I don't get it. They're worrying about street-level views on Google Maps, but leaving out basic features that every other PDA on the planet has had for years? That Notes application is awful--takes forever to start up (so forget jotting down a quick phone number)--and doesn't sync. But what a huge relief that we can now download podcasts over the air--glad they rushed to fix that one.
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by themortalgod November 21, 2008 7:46 AM PST
As I am sure you know, one of the strength of the iPhone right now is all the very skilled developers working to bring apps to it. Just do a search on the app store for a to do list and you will get many options, most of which are free, many of which can sync, to either your desktop or up to the cloud.

PS: As for flash I would loathe to see it put on the iPhone due to all the flash ads and it's bloated nature and the ironic part about this is I work full time as a Flash developer hahaha
by oassaf November 21, 2008 10:58 AM PST
goldbaum you are correct, sorry mortalgod, but I should not have to take an extra step to get a very basic application, it would be the exact same as if apple did not include a calculator on the iphone. My sister who, really isnt the most technical at all has an iPhone and just the other day her big complaint about the iphone was that it didnt have a to do list like her pearl did, why is this not even a part of the calender? Sure you can make everything an appointment but thats pointless. Yes there is notepad but that has no reminder capability.

Apple needs to forget the stuff that tech junkeis love about the iphone or whatever and remember that they need thus device to appeal to the masses, yes alot of people did by iphones, but who says they are going to keep them at upgrade time or if they damage and need to replace them. All those people complaining about those little dumb features that you may once use once a month may be the difference between a returning iphone customer and a customer returning to a blackberry or other phone.
by tappy727 November 21, 2008 2:38 PM PST
The iPod sync's the iCal to-do list. I wonder why the iPhone and iTouch don't do that?
by Goodbye Helicopter November 21, 2008 7:37 AM PST
whiny rich people.
seriously?
the economy stinks.
the poor are getting poorer.
iraqis are still suffering.
and you lot are whining about iPhone features??!! who are you people?
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by PoisedSimplified November 21, 2008 7:42 AM PST
Very good point, Goodbye Helicopter. The shortcomings of the iPhone are tolerable. Cut and paste is something I need only when I am writing a report, something I'd never do on an iPhone. Turn-by-turn GPS? It'd be nice but it'd likely come at a premium where AT&T and Apple would likely make it so the AT&T Nav is the only turn-by-turn app you can use. I don't own an iPhone, but I'd like to. Even with it's shortcomings. I went from a Blackberry to currently using Windows Mobile. Both are awful. Now the question is ... iPhone 3G or Nokia E71? The Blackberry Storm (tried out this morning) is leaps light years behind the iPhone 3G and shouldn't be brought up again.
by badmojo42 November 21, 2008 8:08 AM PST
Poised... - Leaps light years behind the 3G??? please explain your professional assessment of the phone... oh and give comparisons on how many more things the 3G does over the 1st iPhone, other than 3G access of course...
by make_or_break November 21, 2008 6:57 PM PST
badmojo42...it's only fanboy infatuation. Probably squeals with uncontrolled delight at just the thought of being with arm's length of an iPhone. Hate to see the reaction when he actually USES the thing.
by SebDavies November 22, 2008 6:45 AM PST
shut up, go to a website which talks about Iraq and economy, youd prefer it
by atomicbomb156 November 22, 2008 2:45 PM PST
We whine about it because we have the freedom to. The reason some of us are rich is because we worked hard to get there. I don't have an army. I can't control the economy. And it certainly isn't my fault that poor people are getting poorer. I simply had an opportunity and seized it. What have you been doing to save the world recently? And throwing money isn't going to get us anywhere.
by PoisedSimplified March 19, 2009 6:49 AM PDT
For someone that wants to be able to navigate on their device pain free with a good browser, I say iPhone ... for now. The Palm Pre may change that, though. And it just so happens that I am already on Sprint.

@ badmojo42

The iPhone has an App Store. BlackBerry is copying that but apps that aren't free must be a minimum of $2.99? Advantage: iPhone

The iPhone's media player is easy to the core to use. No Window Mobile or BlackBerry menus to have to figure out to find your music.

As for comparing the iPhone 3G to the 1st iPhone, that had nothing to do with anything, but its nice that you're reaching for such an erroneous argument. Hope you got balance behind that reach ...

In my opinion, the Storm's screen is intolerable. Scrolling takes more pressure than needed for a capacitive touchscreen. That click screen is really a bad idea. It's a failed gimmick. The device itself seems rushed. There is really nothing remarkable or revolutionary about the OS the Storm runs on, either. It's more of a very minute evolution of BlackBerry's past OS's. The operability of is just as cumbersome as a BlackBerry with a trackball, if not, made worse by the poor mechanics of scrolling with your finger on the click-screen.

A consumer not hanging my hat on every new thing that's out, I'd still want a device I'll want to USE, not cope with. It's just a matter of personal preference. Didn't mean to make you go poopy over my assessment. Go ahead and wipe yourself kiddo.

@ make_or_break

No iPhone fanatic here, I mean it DOES have its own set of limitations. However, it's advantages far outweigh the balance of the pros and cons on the other devices for me. But don't get loose at the mouth without considering what I've already made clear and without stating your own position (common flame-technique ... my compliments to you): I've lived a couple years with Blackberry and Windows Mobile. Some people just jumped to the iPhone from "normal" cell phones without trying any of the other comparable devices. Enterprise users will likely prefer a BlackBerry, and they should, but there is no infatuation influencing my interest. I know better.
by PoisedSimplified November 21, 2008 7:38 AM PST
Using Flash, one could launch executeables from the 3rdPty Flash application. This violates the preset terms for acceptable apps. Apple is sticking to its terms, which were already clear before Flash was under development. Adobe is to blame here, not Apple. Meanwhile, Apple could develop a newer version of Safari that has Adobe's Flash built-in. Now that IS up to Apple.
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by big.mouth November 22, 2008 8:26 AM PST
You are begging the question. Part of the problem is Apple's stubborn insistence on sticking to unreasonable terms for software development. Also, you are completely ignoring Jobs's stated sentiments against flash.
by PoisedSimplified March 10, 2009 9:09 AM PDT
Run your own company, write your own rules ... if you don't like the terms for software development, bounce elsewhere. As for Jobs, his sentiments are ignorant of the shortcomings in his company's device's hardware. Pull open your trusty tech specs sheet on the iPhone. The iPhone runs an underclocked 620 MHz CPU at about 400-415 MHz. That gets bogged down easily because of Apple's R&D's failure to efficiently design a device capable of utilizing a fully-clocked 620 Mhz CPU because temperature concerns could not be avoided with the insulation imposed by an all-plastic case. It also only runs on 128 MB RAM. Flash barely runs cleanly on Windows Mobile with Opera and Internet Explorer Mobile 6 on devices with CPUs running at 528 and RAM bottoming at 256. Flash runs slow on the iPhone??? No sh*t Sherlock. How does Job's et al complain about the slowness found in Flash on the iPhone when the iPhone isn't even capable of running its CPU at the regular clock without burning up inside under normal use? Meanwhile, his company owns patented tech that could compete and build off of Quicktime R&D that dropped Flash support, but so far, no cigar. Thanks big.mouth ... insightful ...
by gojeffrey November 21, 2008 7:56 AM PST
GPS turn by turn directions? I can live without it. My Garmin Nuvi does the job just fine.

MMS? Yeah it would be nice to join the rest of the mobile community with this.

Flash? Okay I want this too.

Copy & Paste? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME STEVE? WHAT IS THE HOLD UP ON THIS? You are making me crazy.
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by a85 November 21, 2008 8:05 AM PST
Stability improvements for Safari would be great. Safari crashes at least a dozen times a day for me. Probably the most frustrating thing about the iPhone.
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by Perry_Clease November 21, 2008 8:10 AM PST
Can you give us some of the URLs that you were visiting when Safari crashes? Not that I don't believe you, but I have yet to have to crash on me.
by oassaf November 21, 2008 11:00 AM PST
Perry_Clease dont tell me that you are too blinded by the iPhone sbeuty to admit even something as simple as crashes on safari. It happens routinely, thus why even apple can admit it and release a fix for it.

But personally where my browser crashes is on sites that have flash, usually text and image based sites are fine, but anything with heav flash crashes all the time.
by bigmc6000 November 21, 2008 11:18 AM PST
oassaf, I don't really have any crashes either. At most maybe 1 a day (maybe) so that's not me being blinded by the iPhones beauty, that's the truth. Maybe Perry_Clease doesn't go to web sites that heavily tax the iPhones brains and thus it doesn't crash. The point is that none of our experiences are anything but anecdotal evidence. Apple, MS, and everybody else releases updates all the time. Many times to products that I use quite often and have never had a problem with. That doesn't mean there isn't a problem, that just means I haven't experienced it...
by Perry_Clease November 21, 2008 7:26 PM PST
"Perry_Clease dont tell me that you are too blinded by the iPhone sbeuty to admit even something as simple as crashes on safari. It happens routinely, thus why even apple can admit it and release a fix for it. "

I see that a85 has not yet answered the question so I have my doubts that he has that many Safari crashes per day or perhaps he doesn't really have an iPhone. The Flash sites I have visited when using my iPhone haven't crashed Safari, but of course I could not see the content either.
by big.mouth November 22, 2008 8:30 AM PST
bigmac, if you have a crash a day, then you have crashes. What part of that don't you understand.

perry (aka fanboy) I love my iPhone, too, but making excuses for Apple is just pathetic.
by D3vildog699 November 23, 2008 7:22 AM PST
Perry_Clease

Who are you to say that he isn't having issues with his phone just because he didn't put URLs up for the websites that are crashing?? I work Tech support for the iphone and i can tell you that it doesn't matter. Stop being a fanboy, safari DOES have issues. Hopefully with the update it will be solved.
by greho November 21, 2008 8:32 AM PST
As a BlackBerry user who had to choose his phone and provider based on geography and network coverage, the nitpicks about the iPhone and AT&T are not strictly relevant to me.

However, could this article be amended to reflect that fact that this update applies to the iPod Touch? And perhaps the article could outline changes to iPod Touch versus iPhone?

Thanks very much.
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by whosblue November 21, 2008 1:27 PM PST
"As a BlackBerry user " you have no right to express an opinion.
by anilsudh November 21, 2008 8:36 AM PST
I hope Copy/Paste, MMS & Flash support are never released. Just a bunch of useless things used 0.0000001% of the times. The development resources are better spent elsewhere.
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by D3vildog699 November 23, 2008 7:24 AM PST
To you they are useless, but to a vast a majority of iphone users those are important things to have, and not very expensive to put it in....
by cackerot79 November 25, 2008 3:21 PM PST
So because you don't use it then it is used by less than 1% of the population? I believe your apple glasses are on crooked. ;-) I have friends send pictures, then I get a cryptic viewmymessages.com link, all day long. Funny things happen that people take pictures and send often.

I would suggest staying in a cave :-) because the more you socialize the more you will find out that there is a large portion of the population using MMS.

Oh yeah, there are no emoticons on the iphone. ***?!?!?!
by gjerry November 21, 2008 8:55 AM PST
I can't believe people buy the line "I don't need MMS becasue it does e-mail". For consumer phone users not having MMS is a big miss. 95% of my friends don't have iPhones, but they do want to send MMS (pictures mostly) - I am left out in the cold on that one.

The poster who mentioned the "To Do List" - AMEN! I held off on the 1st gen waiting for Exchange connectivity, and then I find out that there's no way to synch tasks. Pretty shoddy.

Cut and Paste - no biggie for me. I had it on my Windows Mobile devices and never used it. But I do think it's a fundamental feature that should be in the product.

All that being said - the iPhone is the most entertaining and engaging phone I've ever owned. I'd love to try out a Storm, but my company is on AT&T so I'll be on the iPhone for a while.
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by aapllove November 21, 2008 9:18 AM PST
Yes, Copy and Paste would be wonderful, especially for those often times pointless, but enjoyable chain text messages, and also for email; and MMS messaging would be nice, however infrequently most people would use it, but that's AT&T's deal partly. Flash? Eh, take it or leave it. But what i think is a really big issue for the iPhone is a landscape keyboard. How ridiculously simple is it Apple? I mean really. Safari already has it, and there are apps that do it for email, it would be so simple to create a landscape keyboard for text messaging! That's the iPhone's biggest issue.(Well, for me at least). Every other touch screen phone, albeit completely inferior in every other way, has a landscape keyboard. Why hasn't Apple released one yet?!
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by Thomas, David November 21, 2008 9:39 AM PST
About Cut & Paste

For the non-technical people to understand, it's about the architecture of OSX for the iPhone. Applications are truly separate, to the point that only essential system deamons (background programs) will ever be running at the same time. ALL other applications have a single, sand-boxed space that they run in. Only one can be run at a time.

Cut, and paste requires support for simple textual data to binary object data. Well, binary none-the-less but memory management becomes a thorny potential problem, to the point that the current architecture cannot support loading an application in the same memory space. The apparent solution would be virtual (flash memory aka "ram-disk" since there is not hard-drive) memory. That means another architectural change where the applications would be allowed to have a common virtual memory for cut and paste.

Sounds like a great solution, but now it creates a huge security issue. It's kind of a toss-up and I believe they are probably arguing internally on the proper management of this if they are even thinking about it. But that's all but a big fat guess from me.


Bottom-line, cut and paste is that parallel issue that has been following evolution of the OSX iPhone system, only on the other side of the mirror. If you are super concerned about security and control, you'd never allow. If you want to make this an even more successful device, you'd figure it out. I believe it will happen, but has to be a part of the architecture's evolution. Sounds strange, that such a simple thing would be diametrically opposed to the architecture of the operating system.
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by oassaf November 21, 2008 11:04 AM PST
but now it creates a huge security issue -
So the end point is that, RIM has a more secure system they have had cut and paste since about their second device. Does this mean that RIM has a better operating system? Yes Safari is a better browser, but since it lacks cut and paste that ultimately, according to your argument, Apple's OS on the iPhone is an inferior product to Rim.
by Thomas, David November 21, 2008 11:51 AM PST
The same security issue stands for RIM using cut, and paste. But that's not the point. The point is, I believe (and this may not be so), that the design of the OS to run only one user application at a time, does not allow for data to be shared between applications. I think it was built this way from the ground up. If someone knows better, please tell us.
by ultimatebuster November 21, 2008 9:45 AM PST
cut and paste is not a big deal! Even my 5 year old motorola basic cell has it!
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by Hockeyfan333 November 21, 2008 9:58 AM PST
Ok, I'll agree that several of these features would be nice, but no one here has brought up my biggest gripe yet...I want a stereo bluetooth profile. Why is A2DP not on the Iphone? I have yet to hear a reasonable argument against it. What is the problem there? Community thoughts?
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by badmojo42 November 21, 2008 10:03 AM PST
it's so they can get you to buy the next gen iPhone.
by oassaf November 21, 2008 11:05 AM PST
exactly, otherwise why would we ever need to get new phones!
by wtw4563 November 21, 2008 11:29 AM PST
A2DP is the only new thing I'd like to see active in the iPhone, I have a stereo bluetooth headset I haven't been able to use since 2 phones ago. I thought surely with the 'entertainment' value of the iPhone, that it would be a priority - guess not.
by hooterboy31 November 22, 2008 8:18 AM PST
Thank you for that!
by jbirge November 22, 2008 11:54 AM PST
Because A2DP sucks. The sound quality is terrible, and you've got a damn phone jack on the iphone. How far away from your iphone are you planning to get that you are willing to suffer bad sound quality but not suffer a cord?
by Hockeyfan333 November 24, 2008 12:29 PM PST
"How far away from your iphone are you planning to get that you are willing to suffer bad sound quality but not suffer a cord?"

Not far at all...
I want to be able to connect it to my car stereo 2' away that doesn't have a headphone jack.
I want to run on a treadmill without some stupid armband while my phone sits 3' away not being shaken.
I want to work with my chopsaw 10' away without haveing to worry that my headphone cord will get caught in the blade.

I'd continue, but I think that makes the point.
by pme31561 November 21, 2008 10:17 AM PST
The only horrible thing about the iphone is AT&T. I'm looking for a way out cause AT&T is so terrible, but I love my iPhone!
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by bigmc6000 November 21, 2008 11:21 AM PST
Having had both Verizon and Sprint I can tell you they are nothing special and certainly nothing to jump for joy about. AT&T is better in areas, worse in others. Change for change's sake isn't going to make things better - it's just going to make them different...
by pme31561 November 21, 2008 11:40 AM PST
I know it all depends on location, but in my area (Los Angeles, particuarlly the valley and downtown) I've had sprint, verizon, t-mobile and at&t. never ever had a problem with reception and dropped calls on sprint and verizon. dropped calls and no reception is a daily occurance on at&t and t-mobile. even before i had the iphone. I just wished it could be offered other places even though i know it is very very very unrealistic. just being a dreamer :)
by BigHouseFan48 November 24, 2008 9:42 AM PST
I agree with you "pme31561, I also had the iphone (1st gen), loved it but hated AT&T. Calls were constantly dropped, I couldn't get a good signal for the phone or internet most of the time, it was very frustrating so I sold it. The cut & paste, flash, MMS issues were there but were not deal breakers for me. Now I am with Sprint, and about to leave Sprint to try the "Storm", which is funny because most complaints about it is "it doesn't have Wi-Fi", well I had wi-fi with the iphone almost never used it and when I did try, every place had a password lock on it so I couldn't use it. I wouldn't mind going back to the new iphone, but I never will as long as it is exclusive to AT&T.
by Spokane_Stephen November 21, 2008 11:31 AM PST
As an IPhone owner, the fact that the Storm allows internet access for a laptop when the phone is tethered is THE killer in my opinion. After all, ATT charges a premium for 3G access -- why can't I use what I'm paying for.

Also, cutting and pasting would be great, so would a way to delete text quickly in an e-mail. The fact of the matter is that the IPhone is very crash prone -- mine crashes regularly.

If I was in the market again right now (and not locked into a 2yr contract) it would be a no-brainer to buy the Storm.
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by pme31561 November 21, 2008 11:42 AM PST
you could probably sell your iphone 3g and it would cover the costs of the early contract termination fee with at&t and the costs for your new storm :)
by Brent212 November 21, 2008 1:41 PM PST
That is the biggest reason I couldn't switch to an iphone. I'm not a fan of doing anything internet related on a phone, even if it's an iphone. I can get little things done, but it's so much slower to type and perform simple task. The nice thing about a WM phone is you can tether for free... non PAM plan required. If the iphone could do that, I'd consider getting one.
by radiorobot November 21, 2008 11:50 AM PST
Bluetooth support! They forgot better Bluetooth support! I could care less about ggogle maps c@1P! but I bought one of those bluetooth enabled Polaroid printers to catalog parts details ect. and had to return it because of lack of bluetooth printing on the iphone. A headset forget it. How about being able to listen to itunes and get calls? How about that copy and paste... seriously one of the most annoying things about a iphone. They have no clue what they are doing... For some things I love the iphone for... example music apps. Its been fun but as soon as I can i will leave you behind.
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by tcr071 November 21, 2008 12:03 PM PST
Whoop De Doo. Some pointless features that I will never use and none of the features that I actually want.

I could walk into an ATT store right now and tell them I am sick of my iPhone and would rather have the cheapest crappiest phone they sell and it would have support for multimedia messaging and have speed dial.

Nah... instead of features we could actually use like landscape texting, copy and paste, voice activated dialing WITHOUT 3rd party apps, and speed dialing (favorites is an alternative but why not both) we get google maps updated with street view...
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