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September 27, 2008 5:22 PM PDT

Apple selling unlocked iPhone 3G in Hong Kong

by Natalie Weinstein

Apple has made an unlocked version of the iPhone 3G available in Hong Kong, letting consumers pick whichever carrier they so choose.

This is in sharp contrast to Apple's policy for almost everywhere else on the planet. Illegally unlocked iPhones are rampant worldwide, but that obviously isn't something that Apple has sanctioned.

Freedom doesn't come cheap. The 8GB version is available for about $695 (5,400 Hong Kong dollars), while the 16GB iPhone costs about $798 (6,200 HK dollars), according to Apple's site.

The "iPhone 3G purchased at the Apple Online Store can be activated with any wireless carrier," the site states. "Simply insert the SIM from your current phone into iPhone 3G and connect to iTunes 8 to complete activation."

Natalie Weinstein is an associate editor who works out of Austin, Texas. She spent a decade as a reporter and editor in the newspaper industry before joining the CNET News staff in 2000. E-mail Natalie.
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by trd1282 September 27, 2008 6:02 PM PDT
I'd rather switch to AT&T than pay that...
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by juiceandjaja1 September 27, 2008 6:10 PM PDT
Once again the American consumer gets the shaft, while Asia and Europe get more features and options. Why cain't I get a unlocked phone?
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by RalphALott September 28, 2008 7:00 AM PDT
Because you don't live in a free country. If you think you do try not wearing a seat belt in your own car or not paying your rent/property tax on the land you own. Or just try buying an unlocked phone, or DVD player that will play a DVD you purchased outside the US. The list goes on: window tint, 2 people on a scooter made for 2, laws against using remote car starters, etc. One sure sign government is to big is when they have time to worry about my windows being tinted, but don't notice banks are writing loans with no cash to back them up.
by Thomas, David September 28, 2008 8:31 AM PDT
@Ralphalot

It's corporate policy furthered through government action. There is nothing wrong with the government except its undue influence by large corporations. I could go on, and on, and on. But let me put it this way for everyone to read.

85 billion dollars, to bail out the economy, to be given to corrupt institutions that played a direct hand in this mess. Not to the people. Even after taxes (30%), that money would amount to about 290,000 dollars per adult in the US. Seems to me an awful lot of mortgages would suddenly be covered. Yea, let's save the "economy" by bailing out the companies, but not foundation of this country ... it's people. Oy, but people will get all "excited" over a single payment of 300 dollars, or 1,000 dollars, and some politician just bought your vote for CHEAP!
by allengap October 23, 2008 1:01 PM PDT
@Thomas, David

There is a little problem with your math. Assuming there are 200 million adults in the US (out of 300 million people) that would only be $297.50 per person after a 30% tax. That's quite a few missing zeroes. And further more, if The United States of America is so bad feel free to move you and you family to another country. Like Tony Blair said, "The true measure of a country is view the number of people trying to get in." Last time I checked we are still at the top of that list.
by tektaktyks August 30, 2009 3:29 AM PDT
@allengap so you solution is leave your country and let your homeland go down the drain,wow
by TheBoots September 27, 2008 6:45 PM PDT
I believe the ones sold in Hong Kong via Hutchison are ALREADY unlocked phones. Therefore of users travel abroad and wish to use a local SIM card, it is possible but while in HK, it makes no sense to use another operator's SIM card because you are contracted for 2 years on a plan. I think what this news is about is the option of buying a non-contract phone.
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by Ramon366 September 27, 2008 6:45 PM PDT
I was on a month-to-month deal with ATT for my iPhone.
Last month my bank sent me a new debit card; they had changed the last four digits of the card, for security reasons; the rest of the info remained the same - they only changed the debit card's number - not my bank account number.
Monthly debits, such as my ISP, gym membership etc., continued to get their money out of my bank account, but ATT was the only one that sent me a terse text message claiming that they could not process my last bill.
I called their Customer service (Ha!) number, and the agent said that since I had accrued a $230.00 credit, due to low usage with my current plan, I should switch to a different, less expensive plan. The plan would charge every call, but the monthly fees would be less, and ATT has a policy of KEEPING any accrued credit above $250.00.
This was the Friday before Labor Day, and the agent recommended that I wait until after the holiday to change my plan, so that I could have unlimited weekend minutes. I called the following business day, and the agent who took my called said that my $230.00 credit was now forfeit, because I had called one day late! I still had paid an additional month above the $230.00!!
I called a few days ago to find out the status of the $230.00 that I had accrued since October 2007, and they said that I had forfeited the entire amount. I tried to explain to them that I was caught in the middle of what my bank was doing - protecting my account and ATT making off with my accrued credit - to no avail!
Now I read this news, and you can imagine how angry I am!!

Apple; you're in a partnership with a company that is tarnishing your image!
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by TheBoots September 27, 2008 6:48 PM PDT
Hi Ramon366, How were you able to get a month to month deal on your iPhone? Did you get an "unlocked" phone from overseass and use the "month to month plan here"?
by iammealso September 27, 2008 7:23 PM PDT
We American consumers get it again. But it is a sure bet that we fall for it next time. Apple needs to open to other carriers other than ATT. ATT's service or lack of has me very seriously thinking of giving up the iphone until another carrier is available.
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by grey886 September 27, 2008 7:24 PM PDT
In just a few weeks, you will find plenty of these unlocked iPhone 3G on eBay. Great for US customers that would like to pickup SIM unlocked iPhone in the US to be used on AT&T and T-mobile....

BTW, stay away from the so-called TurboSIM hardware unlocked on the eBay for now, since that might mess up your phone....
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by Bmelmann September 28, 2008 1:51 AM PDT
TurboSIM works fine for me on the iPhone 3G, why spreading rumors? In Hong Kong, there is a law which prevents phone makers from blocking their phones. This isn't new for the iPhone 3G - you could get the original iPhone unblocked there as well. Not really news.
by dude7895 September 27, 2008 7:24 PM PDT
HaHaHa, stupid Apple.
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by sharmajunior September 27, 2008 8:10 PM PDT
Thats it. I am going to China to get "me" an unlocked iPhone. I guess i can start a black market business importing them here to the U.S....

Its a possibility.
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by caswell1515 September 28, 2008 1:42 AM PDT
i like ur thinking!
by jack_crackajack September 27, 2008 8:13 PM PDT
Why unlocked iPhone 3G don't selling in ChongQing China.
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by Thomas, David September 28, 2008 8:32 AM PDT
What?!
by rc454 September 27, 2008 10:28 PM PDT
If this was Microsoft somebody would already be threating to sue already ...
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by Thomas, David September 28, 2008 8:33 AM PDT
ok, maybe it's my troll morning.

Sue for what?
by infernalman7 September 27, 2008 10:29 PM PDT
American market may not be familiar with the fully priced and completely unlocked phones that are sold outright. It's very common in some European and Asian market since it provides you with real freedom of switching.

Since the air-time is somewhere around 0.088 dollar per minute nation-wide, it's really hard for Thais to be locked into a contract. The most expensive unlimited timeless plan is priced at 29 dollars per month.
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by bobmaelstrom September 27, 2008 10:55 PM PDT
STEVE JOBS = TECH NAZI !!!!!

Why is it that you can only get an iphone with a two year contract with ATT because apparently ATT subsidizes the phone. But after two years, when you fullfill your part of the contract, the phone is still not yours. You are still locked to ATT after you have paid the full price through the contract. That dishonest STEVE JOBS !!!!

Steve Jobs, you are a Tech NAZI !!!!!!!
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by k2dave September 28, 2008 9:24 AM PDT
Don't worry, following Apple's pattern, the current iphone will be functionally obsolete in 2 years anyway and you will want or need to get the iphone2b instead.
by timothy_chung September 27, 2008 11:00 PM PDT
I am disappointed with the misleading promise of iPhone price of $199 US. I think companies should communicate truthful things to customers rather than doing marketing without concerning about the truthfulness of their words.

Looking forward to improvements in the business world and also the world. :-)
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by bhushan bhaagii September 28, 2008 8:10 AM PDT
You should go ahead and get a consumer group to take up this issue. If there's scope for action, based
on the fact that the phone is NOT being sold for $ 199, as advertised, then you should do it.
by Thomas, David September 28, 2008 8:36 AM PDT
Ummm,, sure.

So all "models" cost the same. Please not that quoted the word 'model'. Your "case" is no longer.
by mnsima September 28, 2008 12:01 AM PDT
Here in Asia, since the conception and the mass-marketing of mobile telecommunication (late 80's) we NEVER lock any phones. Never did, never will. That way, anyone can change their mobile phones anytime, depending on their mood for the day, what shoes they're wearing, and what the fashion is. Mobile phones are part of the 'package', especially teenagers. Anything that's a year old is... that... old. But with prices of brand names (Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola, Samsung, etc.) are anything between $50 to $1000+, there's always something for someone. Or wait 3-6 months after the launch of a particular model, then the price will start dropping. The after-market, 2nd- and 3rd-hand mobile phones... are widely available, starting from $10 (these are usually 2+ year old phones). We usually give those used and cheap ones to our elementary school kids, in case they drop 'em or lose 'em we don't have to go yelling at them. But at least they start learning about "being in contact" with families and friends.

Some countries don't lock anyone with any package at all, all free flowing. Pre- and post-paid. Other countries have companies offering people the options of either getting free or heavily discounted phones on a 2 year contract, or just buy out the phones at full price. But even if we get a free phone on a contract, it's NEVER locked. iPhones sold in Singapore come with various plans, but again, they're UNLOCKED. It's against the law to lock phones.

Pre-paid card's very cheap, and never any charge on incoming calls or texts. Some providers in Singapore even give the pre-paid customers free texts; for example, free 10 outgoing texts to any overseas numbers, after just sending 5 texts to any overseas numbers. In Indonesia, another example, all providers offer topping up a number with the lowest denomination of $1. Not enough for any talking, but for those school kids with fast fingers, they can sure send out 50 texts for that money!!
Competition is very fierce, providers must give the most and the best, otherwise people can easily change provider. Not uncommon for people to have 2-4 different phone numbers, for different purposes. Not to mention the ability to "choose" our own numbers, for those believing in "sets of lucky numbers". I myself carry 5 different phone numbers from 3 Southeast Asian countries. 2 on plans, 3 prepaid cards that have long expiry dates, to make sure that the next time I go back to that country my number is still working.

I used to live in the US, but now I just travel back and forth between the US and Asia, at least 3-4 times in a year. It's always so frustrating for me to be back in the US for the outdated mobile phone way of thinking. It's so territorial, many blank spots (meaning, poor or no receptions), and just not worth the price everyone has to pay. Not to mention... clunky looking, unsexy phones!

As to go back to this article, don't blame it on Apple, but rather, the phone companies. They've been the one burying their heads in the sand, not 'learning' from the fastest emerging market for telecommunication, which has been Asia.
Mobile phones don't have to be a luxury, but rather a necessity, helping everyone to communicate with each other, anytime. And that includes the neighboring countries, or faraway friends in other continents. Communication MUST be affordable!!
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by bhushan bhaagii September 28, 2008 8:23 AM PDT
"Mobile phones don't have to be a luxury, but rather a necessity, helping everyone to communicate with each other, anytime. And that includes the neighboring countries, or faraway friends in other continents. Communication MUST be affordable!"

Looks like Steve Jobs has missed/messed out this one. The iPhone here in India is priced at $800!
Two companies have gone in for it, and they are charging a fantastic amount for connectivity.
Sales have been *********, and when negative press publicity added to their problems,
all three, Apple, Airtel and Vodafone came out with statements blaming Apple, who blamed the
phone companies, who blamed Apple...for the steep, unattractive price.
by vip_m September 29, 2008 9:11 PM PDT
Please be careful with letting your kids use cellphones. At www.c-span.org, watch the House haring on cellphone radiation--if you're 20-years-old and below, the radiation bombarding your brain is almost double that of an adult, with the possible impact of a brain tumor or leukemia.
by Doganab September 28, 2008 12:10 AM PDT
This isn't news. They have been selling them unlocked in some coutntries. Other countries have the option to unlock.

France, Grece, Italy, Hong Kong to name a few.

There is even an article somewhere that lists which countries sell it unlocked. The catch is hardware service for warranty repairs is only in the country it was purchased in.
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by iturtle September 28, 2008 12:26 AM PDT
Selling of fully unlocked cell phone in Hong Kong is a general practice with a few exceptions. Hong Kong has a highly competitive wireless market and hence the price of the plans here are driven down to the minimal, e.g. A US$18.9 plan for 1,200 airtime, 900 mobile to mobile, 50 minutes of Video Conferencing, 30 SMS and 50 MMS, one year contract, tax free). So, it is almost implausible for the cellular company to fully reclaim the money they subsidized for the phone from the wireless plan. On top of that, unlocking service is way too cheap and easily accessible here. (FYI, the cheapest iPhone plan here is a mere US$24 for 500 airtime, 500 mobile to mobile, 500MB Data, 15 SMS, unlimited in-network SMS, free Wi-Fi service around the city, 24 months contract, tax free).

Welcome to one of the freest market economy in the world.
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by bobmaelstrom September 28, 2008 12:43 AM PDT
mnsima: thanks for the long message. But you said: " don't blame it on Apple, but rather, the phone companies "

I dont agree with you there, Steve Jobs is just as much to blame for ripping the US consumer as are the service providers... as are our law makers for sitting on their ***** all the time, not doing anything to protect consumers they supposedly represent.

Again: Steve Jobs is making the US consumer pay for the iphone device through the contract. If the consumer breaks the contract, there is a termination fee. If the consumer completes the contract, the consumer has paid for the device. Either way the consumer pays for the device. Yet the device is never totaly the consumers honest property because it has been intentionaly locked to one service provider.

STEVE JOBS did this for one and ONE reason only, he is taking advantage of the fact that service providers are ripping off the consumer by making sure he get's his cut of the consumer rip-off.

Imagine buying an Apple computer that works on one internet service provider. And if you leave that provider for whatever reason your iMac computer no longer works on the internet due to an lock incoporated into the computer by Apple to make sure it gets a profit cut of the internet service. That is exactly what this comes down to. It is dishonest, dishonerable - thievery!

All the mobile service providers are shafting the US consumers. That has long been known. Congresss is doing nothing to protect the consumer against this. And STEVE JOBS is just joining in on it instead of acting in the interest of people who would buy an apple device.

I like the iphone. But I wont buy it. NO THANKS.... STEVE THE THIEVE!!!! And I will keep persuading people I know not to buy it.

Hey STEVE JOBS how do you live with yourself being a con?
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by Doganab September 28, 2008 1:52 AM PDT
AT&T's press release for the iPhone 3G stated they were no longer revenue sharing going forward for the iPhone 3G.
by Tommy.Peters September 28, 2008 4:48 AM PDT
Though officially announced this month, these unlocked puppies were available since August.
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by tommellor September 28, 2008 6:46 AM PDT
well, your complaining about that price, in the GB, we pay out much much more than you will ever even think about, a brand new game, would cost about $80.
The iPhone, the contract is rubbish, the price of the phone, too high, and the marketing awful.
To be honest, the iPhone isnt what it seems to be, its a major flaw in what a great product could've been
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by September 28, 2008 6:52 AM PDT
Re AT&T 'policy' of stealing money.

Write them a letter pointing out that it is your policy to notify the police and the state AG when a company commits theft. Oh and their stupid attempt to avoid class action lawsuit status certainly would not cover them in this case and that they had better either credit your account immediately or issue a cheque for the amount owed or face some very expensive legal action that they will lose.
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