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August 11, 2008 3:54 PM PDT

iPhone 3G: What's the frequency?

by Tom Krazit
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If you've been having connection issues with your iPhone 3G, please let us know where you are.

(Credit: Apple)

If you're an iPhone 3G owner in the U.S., we need your help.

Earlier Monday, we reported on the 3G reception issues that a number of iPhone 3G users have run into during their first month with the device. We'd like to have a little more data to see if there are any patterns connected to who is having problems, and who isn't.

In the comments below, or in an e-mail to me (tom.krazit@cnet.com) please post the following:

Area in which you live.

Date on which you bought your iPhone 3G.

Do you live inside an area labeled as 3G as shown on AT&T's coverage map?

Have you experienced problems with dropped calls or flaky 3G connections? Please elaborate.

This part might require you to be on hold for a while, but it could be potentially very interesting: please call up an AT&T customer service representative and ask them if the primary 3G tower near your home or that your phone is currently using runs on the 1900MHz frequency or the 850MHz frequency. Earlier today I was told by an AT&T customer representative that they can do a system test on your phone to see which 3G tower you're connected to, and the frequency of that tower. If they seem confused, ask them to look it up.

If you're an AT&T customer using another 3G phone on the network, please also respond with your location and whether or not you're having the same kinds of issues. And if you're outside the U.S. and can share your experiences, that would also be helpful.

Thanks for your time.

Tom Krazit writes about the ever-expanding world of Internet search, including Google, Yahoo, online advertising, and portals, as well as the evolution of mobile computing. He has written about traditional PC companies, chip manufacturers, and mobile computers, spending the last three years covering Apple. E-mail Tom.
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by TheMBC August 11, 2008 4:09 PM PDT
Area in which you live.
Miami

Date on which you bought your iPhone 3G.
July 15th

Do you live inside an area labeled as 3G as shown on AT&T's coverage map?
Yes! Definitely, Miami is supposed to be in abundance with 3G

Have you experienced problems with dropped calls or flaky 3G connections?
Yes, I have had dropped calls like crazy, even with other AT&T users.

I didn't get the MHz...
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by M C August 11, 2008 4:49 PM PDT
I'm assuming you actually took the minute to look, but for the benefit of others: "supposed to be in abundance" is not the same as "yes, I looked at the map and my home is within the marked coverage area."
by Tom Krazit August 11, 2008 6:59 PM PDT
@MC, TheMBC- AT&T's coverage viewer doesn't differentiate between "abundance" or "just sorta there." All areas are labeled with the same perceived strength of signal for 3G, as opposed to the layered effect they use for voice and 2G coverage.
by sacsucks August 11, 2008 4:21 PM PDT
Im having the issue with a samsung blackjack, in alpharetta GA. It was fine up to about 4 months back, and now it drops calls like a mother. I even replaced the phone. Same issue happens in Santa Monica CA. In both locations in the past I had solid reception with no dropped calls. Now I have decent signal, at least 3 bars, but the phone switches to edge then back to 3g and drops calls. I dont have the frequency.
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by reddawnz August 12, 2008 7:33 AM PDT
I manage the it for a company in alpharetta, ga. we have two Edge Iphones and 7 3G iphones multiple other 3g phones (treo's, windows mobile, etc.) 3G iPhones all get terrible 3G reception so as part of my setup of new iPhones I disable the 3G so I don't have to deal with a constant barrage of "issues" related to the stupid phones. Alpharetta coverage area is supposed to be very full with 3G. Complaints have been dropped calls, low battery life (possibly due to searching for signals, which improves vastly after the switch to the Edge network), and constantly having no more than two bars (both indoors and out). These problems exist on all 7 of our iPhone 3G's but no such complaints on the other ATT 3G phones (we have about 20 total). Don't know what the frequency is but this other commment is in Alpharetta as well. (30005 zip code windward pkwy & windward concourse by the equifax building)
by nlakin August 11, 2008 4:44 PM PDT
Indianapolis

Saturday morning after the Friday launch (can't remember the date)

3G yes. Solid coverage area.

Problems? Yes. Calls will just drop even when not moving. 3G will switch to Edge without warning and then just hang. I get "server stopped responding" popup. And the GPS is slow. I get a large area bracket before the blue dot finally kicks in. Sometimes takes several minutes.
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by usarioclave August 11, 2008 4:51 PM PDT
3G in portland oregon is really bad on the west side. AT&T says that the 850 band activates at the end of september, so we'll see.
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by manchoi44 August 11, 2008 4:54 PM PDT
Area in which you live.
Chicago

Date on which you bought your iPhone 3G.
July 22nd
Do you live inside an area labeled as 3G as shown on AT&T's coverage map?
Yes

Have you experienced problems with dropped calls or flaky 3G connections? Please elaborate.
I've been having a lot of calls go straight to voicemail (no rings... I pick up the phone later to see that I've got missed calls and voicemails waiting for me). I noticed that this was only happening when I had 3G turned on. Hasn't happened since I turned it off. Also, full bars of 3G in the Loop (where I work) but terrible speeds.

I blame the 2.0.1 firmware upgrade. I wasn't having these issues before then.
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by microapple August 11, 2008 4:56 PM PDT
3G is horrible in Pacifica, South San Francisco, and Palo Alto. I get dropped calls, missed calls (just a Voicemail), and no service. if I disable 3G, my bars go full strength and it improves. I wish I could use my iPhone on Verizon - it is by far "the most reliable network!"
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by sharmajunior August 11, 2008 5:00 PM PDT
Here are the frequencies supported by the iPhone 3G.

On a 2G network it is : GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

On a 3G network it is: HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100

Area where I live is Dublin, Ca. Most likely the iPhone 3G network works better on 850 network as I have a phone that is an unlocked and is triband excluding 850. That phone does not work in the area let alone getting 3G reception. So I would assume that the network is 850.
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by JP2stepR August 11, 2008 5:01 PM PDT
Atlanta
July 11
Yes I live inside an area labeled 3G
No dropped calls. I live less than a mile from AT&T Wireless national headquarters and I get poor 3G reception at the house. Their map shows I should be getting a strong signal here. I get a strong signal in other places I frequent. My feeling is it's an AT&T issue, not Apple's.
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by fdunn3 August 12, 2008 12:40 PM PDT
Before you place the blame on AT&T (no, I'm not a fan of AT&T) find someone with another brand of 3G phone and do the comparison.
by bjcwbg16 August 11, 2008 5:01 PM PDT
Area in which you live. : Williamssburg, Virginia

Date on which you bought your iPhone 3G. : 7-11-08

Do you live inside an area labeled as 3G as shown on AT&T's coverage map? ; YES

Have you experienced problems with dropped calls or flaky 3G connections? Please elaborate.
NO I have not. I have noticed that i don't have as strong signal as i did with sprint in my area. However they share the same tower placement. I use to make calls inside buildings where i work and now i can't.
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by fdunn3 August 12, 2008 12:42 PM PDT
Then it is probably nor dropping down to 850MHz and only using 1900MHz.
by joncanfield August 11, 2008 5:05 PM PDT
Area being used: Odenton, MD
Date purchased: 7/25/08
3G area: Yes

Almost every call has at least one dropped connection. Service outside 3G area is much better. Turning off 3G works much better but the speed obviously suffers
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by martini08 August 11, 2008 5:26 PM PDT
Area in which you live: Long Beach, CA

Date on which you bought your iPhone 3G: Day 1

Do you live inside an area labeled as 3G as shown on AT&T's coverage map: Yes. Many dropped calls. Poor to no reception and no 3G in area where ATT rep said I should have great 3G coverage.
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by orteginho10 August 11, 2008 5:33 PM PDT
iPhone 3G 16GB

July 11th Apple Store Stonestown San Francisco

Daly city CA 94015

My area is supposed to Have 3G! But it does instead it has EDGE
very low signal! I drop calls every day! I have to move out of my house to talk
And I have to turn 3G off since there isn't!

The battery sucks! The apps keep on crashing!

When I go to myspace.com it always frezzes so I try And hold down the home button for 6 seconds it doesn't work! So I have to reset it pressing the power and home buttton.

I'm with tmobile and I never had all those problems. I'm going to cancel my at&t contract
And unlock it to use it with tmobile.
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by kitsap360 August 13, 2008 1:30 AM PDT
Switching to T-Mobile isn't going to keep you from experiencing iPhone 2.0's bugs, Einstein.
by shannoncarver August 11, 2008 6:10 PM PDT
I am having the same issue is austin tx. My 3G only averages about 3 bars and it will move up and down while standing in the same place. I appreciate cnet reporting this issue. this is the only way we will get apple to address it. I don't think it is an att&t issue. There 3G network seems to have pretty good reviews here in austin on other handsets or wireless card
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by chart97 September 5, 2008 2:40 PM PDT
Austin as well. Seem to be the same problem I am in the Zip 78704. It would be cool to have a signal tracking app to track the signal strength and upload the data to a centralized db....just a thought.
by mountaineer77 August 11, 2008 6:14 PM PDT
Tucson, AZ
July 11th
According to ATT Wireless' coverage map, I should have Good to Best with 3G coverage in my area.
I've been getting numerous dropped calls and failed calls. I would receive calls and after I answer the call would fail. People would also call me and it goes straight to voice mail due to my lack of signal. 3G coverage has not been too much of a problem as far as I know.
I contacted AT&T online chat support and they stated that in my zip code where i work they have two issues with towers in the area. One was from today and the other was from mid-July. Both are still unresolved. I also inquired about my home zip code and that area has two "degraded towers". When I inquired about what frequency my phone was on, she said that she didn't know. She said I should have good coverage because I'm in a 3G area.
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by matwer August 11, 2008 6:37 PM PDT
Live in Westfield, NJ

Bought iPhone on July 19th

Yes, live in a 3G area

Very weak, intermittent 3G signal. Mostly reverts to Edge.

Accessing data (internet via Safari) or email is painfully slow.

I called AT&T today (Aug 11th) and was told a fix was available. All I had to do was dial " #002 " and the phone would drop then reconnect to the closest cell tower and fix the 3G reception. Well, guess what? Nothing, zero, zilch, nada, not one iota's bit of a difference. I still have horrible 3G reception.

I really do like the iPhone... but the 3G functionality is, for all practical purposes, non-existent.
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by cnet_reader01 August 11, 2008 6:44 PM PDT
Area in which you live.

Northern Virginia (DC Metro)

Date on which you bought your iPhone 3G.

08/10/08

Do you live inside an area labeled as 3G as shown on AT&T's coverage map?

Yes

Have you experienced problems with dropped calls or flaky 3G connections? Please elaborate.

No bars at all with 3G at home or at work (even outside), spoke to AT&T and they said, there are 3 cell towers down in the area.
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by zato_3 August 11, 2008 6:48 PM PDT
The MS shillosphere is clearly in all-out Anti-Apple mode the last few days. Don't believe the phony tales of woe above. Most are broke PC gamer/haters. C|Net gets the Apple hate ball rolling, and the gamers supply the real ugliness. This is how the Microsoft owned IT net works.
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by trippj13 August 11, 2008 6:49 PM PDT
Williamsburg, VA
July 17th
Yes I live inside a 3G labeled area
Rarely get more than 1 bar using 3g in house. Frequent dropped calls. Forced to use Edge at home
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by timl2k8 August 11, 2008 7:14 PM PDT
wow, almost 20 commments and only 1 person found out their frequency. Smart crowd.
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by pdxrealtor August 12, 2008 3:01 PM PDT
My thought exactly! If everyone posts what frequency they are on, this will help more than any other piece of information at this point!

Unless your Steve Jobs, stepping up to the plate......
by JG14889 August 11, 2008 7:38 PM PDT
Area in which you live.
Chicago

Date on which you bought your iPhone 3G.
July 31

Do you live inside an area labeled as 3G as shown on AT&T's coverage map?
Yes - Downtown area

Have you experienced problems with dropped calls or flaky 3G connections? Please elaborate.
3G works great at street level and near windows. If towards the middle of a building, 3G signal is minimal or non-existent and the phone does not properly switch over to EDGE. However, if I manually switch to EDGE, it works fine in the same areas where 3G does not.
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