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February 6, 2008 2:13 PM PST

Obama loses Silicon Valley to Clinton: Is anyone surprised?

Posted by Declan McCullagh
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It must have come as a surprise to the boisterous Barack Obama supporters who were flagging down commuters at light rail stations south of San Francisco after work on Tuesday, but Hillary Clinton won far more votes in Silicon Valley than did her rival from Illinois.

In Santa Clara County, home to Google, Apple, Yahoo, Intel, HP, and Sun Microsystems, Clinton won a commanding 54.8 percent share of the vote.

Obama, by comparison, won only 39.3 percent. That's a remarkable margin of 16 percentage points. It's far more than the 9.5-point margin that Clinton claimed statewide, meaning Obama fared worse in Silicon Valley than he did in the rest of California.

By an 8-point margin, Clinton also bested Obama in neighboring San Mateo County immediately to the north, which is home to YouTube, Spoke.com, and Internet-monitoring firm Keynote.com.

Here's the chart:

(Credit: California Secretary of State)

So why did Obama--who's popular online and has been touted as a more tech-savvy candidate--lose the nation's high-tech heartland by an embarrassing 16-point margin? If he should have won anywhere, it should have been those two counties. Right?

Conventional wisdom would have said so. Obama collected more contributions from Americans working in the technology industry than his Democratic rivals, after all. He received $139,500 from Google employees, compared with Clinton's mere $61,400 in donations. Yahoo employees also preferred him over Clinton, if their donations are any indication. Obama can claim two Silicon Valley politicians, Reps. Zoe Lofgren and Anna Eshoo, as supporters; he's four times as popular on Eventful.com as Clinton.

Obama garnered a higher rating than Clinton on a recent scorecard compiled by a technology lobby group, and the video of his Google visit became far more popular than Clinton's. He even won a supposed "MySpace primary"--which, in retrospect, was probably dominated by overeager 15-year-old high schoolers.

The problem with the above analysis is that it assumes that clicks in online polls and credit card numbers typed into a Web form by political enthusiasts necessarily translate into votes. They don't, or at least they didn't here. Traditional politicking and on-the-ground organization still count for more, and that's one area where the Clinton machine excels.

As I wrote last month, it worked for the Clintons in New Hampshire, and it worked again even in Silicon Valley, one of the most tech-savvy places in the world. It shows once again that it's so much easier to click a mouse button (or type in a credit card number, or post to a discussion forum) than it is to register to vote and then actually do it. Even Obama Girl didn't bother.

It's too bad for Obama that the actual voting didn't take place online as well.

To be fair, Obama won higher percentages in other Bay Area counties. He bested Clinton in San Francisco (52.4 percent to 44.4 percent) and Berkeley and Oakland (Alameda County, 50.6 percent to 44.7 percent), and the high-income areas across the Golden Gate Bridge from the city (Marin County, 55.1 percent to 38.7 percent).

(Credit: California Secretary of State)

But those are liberal areas where you'd expect Obama to do well (he opposed the Iraq war, remember, and once indicated that he wanted to ban all handguns, a sentiment that many San Franciscans certainly share).

Remember those above charts the next time you read press releases about the supposed importance of a Facebook primary or hear fatuous claims about the number of "friends" a candidate has on MySpace. If those things mattered--they don't--we'd be talking about President Ron Paul today.

Declan McCullagh, CNET News' chief political correspondent, chronicles the intersection of politics and technology. He has covered politics, technology, and Washington, D.C., for more than a decade, which has turned him into an iconoclast and a skeptic of anyone who says, "We oughta have a new federal law against this." E-mail Declan.
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Be fair my friend..
by Obamacrazy February 6, 2008 3:26 PM PST
99% of your blog shows some dislike for Obama. Silicon valley is a city and not the internet. To expect someone to win a city because they have more presence online is a little unheard of...cheers
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Come on, the rest of us have woken up, why so far behind?
by MyRightEye February 6, 2008 3:42 PM PST
The person who will win will be the person decided in advance. We
all know Hillary will win. I wish it would be Ron Paul, but of course
the media has pretended he doesn't exist as he's the only one that
could beat Hillary in an election.
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Do you live in the Bay area?
by baconstang February 6, 2008 3:55 PM PST
Cuz if you do, you know that the south bay isn't exactly a liberal
hotbed. Lots of investment types and typical suburban centrists.
The SF, Marin and Berkeley/Oakland returns are more what would
be expected.
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Yes, I live in the Bay area
by declan00 February 6, 2008 4:01 PM PST
I've lived in San Francisco and now live in Silicon Valley.

I never said the south bay was a liberal hotbed (though it's northern California, not Utah, so it's quite liberal by almost any definition).

What I said is the Valley -- which is more than just the south bay -- is a hotbed of people who seemed to support Obama. See the Google and Yahoo campaign contributions I cited. But when it came to actually voting, they didn't.
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You missed the Hispanic Voter factor
by Andrew Wolfe February 6, 2008 3:58 PM PST
You missed a key point. Santa Clara County is about 35% Hispanic. Clinton did *much* better than Obama with Hispanic voters. Santa Clara County is only about 20% "techies."
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Obama Factor
by mauigino February 7, 2008 11:11 AM PST
To follow your trend of thought then, obama did much better with idiots.
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+1 on the Hispanic Vote
by Maruuk February 6, 2008 4:06 PM PST
I can't believe the author of the article totally missed that there is an enormous Hispanic AND Asian community within the Santa Clara County limits. Both segments virulently anti-Obama and pro-Clinton. Clinton would have had her butt handed to her if you remove those two overwhelming factors.
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Hispanic and Asian votes
by declan00 February 6, 2008 4:25 PM PST
Both you and another commenter seem to think that Asians and Hispanics living in Silicon Valley don't actually work at high-tech firms in Silicon Valley. I would gently suggest that you are mistaken.
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Don't forget the Illegal Alien vote.
by SportyandMisty February 7, 2008 9:22 AM PST
Don't forget the illegal alien vote.
Harder, Further, Real Stars
by wildchild_plasma_gyro February 6, 2008 4:15 PM PST
It's no cibvilisation its war
It's no universe only illusion painted by gravitated form.
Effciency is Death because nothing is ever perfect.
A vicious cycle of form not evolved and we're not talking dawinism here, The higher the level of life intergration the higher the level of subserviance of course god would never know that building a world in Sand have to hold back the competition.
No matter who or what i will always see true knowledge Quaziery of forever (language will die)

Hillary Clinton and the war with russia and enforcement of the occult.
Perfect.
Barak obarma and the rath of Gods rip.

All but to sell your soul for fear of transformation unto the new land for a glory that was never yours.

Forever opening up like the most bueatful flower of imperfection.

Time Traveling amoungst membranes of forever.

Space seeming but a movement

You life but a political swing.
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o.k.
by nmcphers February 7, 2008 6:25 AM PST
I really get what you are saying. No. Actually, I don't.
Obama wins Silicon Valley actually
by ejpeters February 6, 2008 4:18 PM PST
From the heart of Silicon Valley, 4pm Wed: Obama won here. See election results for the 14th Congr. Distr. from the CA Secr. of State at http://vote.ss.ca.gov/Returns/dcd/1459.htm

Wikipedia says the 14th congressional district "includes portions of San Mateo, Santa Clara and Santa Cruz counties, most notably containing Silicon Valley."
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Correction
by declan00 February 6, 2008 4:21 PM PST
Santa Cruz is hardly Silicon Valley, either metaphorically or literally. (It's across the mountains.)

Like Marin, Obama did very well in SC (http://vote.ss.ca.gov/Returns/dcd/1444.htm). Take that away and he wouldn't have won the 14th CD.
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It is hard to imagine
by Maclover1 February 6, 2008 5:03 PM PST
how anyone could look at both of them, look at their records, their character, their accomplishments and then actually go into a booth a vote for her.

She should be divorced after leaving her husband for what he did to her in front of the whole world. She should be living up to the ideals of her party, using her skills as a speaker and a lawyer to help people...for free.

Instead she trades those ideals, her honor, the honor of women for the chance at all of that power. She users her husband and his political machine to help her achieve that goal.

She is truly a sad individual.
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Phoney
by Mystigo February 7, 2008 7:54 AM PST
Wow. I hope she reads this so she will know how you feel.
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Judge Jury and Executioner
by mauigino February 7, 2008 11:37 AM PST
So, what you are saying is that all women who stay in abusive relations are without honor and do not deserve any respect.

If she was a man in the same situation, this would even be an issue.
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INCREDULOUS
by Thomas, David February 8, 2008 8:27 AM PST
How is it, that your choice of ideals, should be hers, and
everyone elses? You have manufactured this black, and white
view of honor, and ideals she must somehow aspire to. In doing
so, you are telling us you know her, her husband, her family, her
beliefs ... better than she does.

For the time being, not withstanding the efforts the ruling
government over the past 8 years, this is supposed to be a free
society with all that it entails.
Unreliable data
by Peace08 February 7, 2008 7:36 AM PST
This article did supply some data charts but did not provide the demographic data of Silicon Valley. Therefore, readers are forced to believe that all residents in that area are hightech professionals, i.e. educated people, whose demographic category fits into Obama's supporters. This article seems to discredit the fact that a major proportion of Silicon Valley professionals have donated to Obama's campaign.
Stupidily biased!
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There is Another Analysis of This Voting Pattern
by Len Bullard February 7, 2008 7:40 AM PST
The politics of personal assasination are the politics of the last decade and a half. They don't interest me. Both Hillary and Barack have excellent character and can serve honorably. I believe the voting patterns you are seeing are based on the perceptions among many voters of the need for effective executive management.

What is of interest to me is effectiveness. While some have a backward looking rosy patina of affection for the Kennedy administration, historically it was mostly a failed administration. Even with the connections of the Kennedy family, the wealth and JFK's experience in the Senate, he did not have the power base in Washington to execute on policy. His foreign policies experience was minimal. Even in areas where he is given credit such as the space program, he led but did not legislate. The heavy hauling for that program was in place prior to his election and was done by Lyndon Johnson, a man with a very strong power base in the capital and beyond.

This is where Hillary is a better choice than Obama. For the previous two administrations, the civil service staff has been stacked with political appointees who were moved over from the political positions where they serve at the pleasure of the President into permanent civil service. Whoever wins the next election confronts an entrenched and highly resistant power base left from Bush legacy. While Obama makes fine speeches, I do not think he has the necessary power base to legislate and govern. I think he will, as Kennedy did, become a lame duck from day one regardless of his popular appeal.

We need an executive, not a rock star. Hillary Clinton is far better prepared and has the necessary power base. Barack is a fine man and his time will come. This is not it. If we choose the passions of race or gender or youth over experience and well-planned goals that can be accomplished, we are making the same mistakes the right wing made in choosing Bush by selecting the man that appeals to our passions over the person best equipped to do the job. The mistakes of that kind of choice are too evident to enumerate here.

Given our choices, Hillary Clinton is the right choice. Perhaps rather than looking at the demographics, it is time to analyze the requirements. That is how engineers think.
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Kennedy & other comparisons not valid
by redpop February 7, 2008 11:30 AM PST
Len, you're clearly embarking on the same path and positions which have little to do with setting the course right for the people (the real powerbase in a democracy). This is why the system is broken!

The fact of succumbing to some sort of vote for a stronger powerbase speaks volumes of how we have let our leadership become unaccountable. Fascism lives!

Secondly, the Senators past experience won't really be an asset. Peak Oil, Peak Water, Peak Population were not on the radar during the Clinton years. And I say this in respect for her experience around the situations in the Whitehouse but we all know WJC has yet to tell her everything.

We're entering a period of unprecedented national and international concerns with dire consequences if our leaders don't address them with visions for the next 200+ years.

Sen. Clinton respectively is not a visionary!
But very smart on the references to current issues and legislation. Hell I'll give her the benefit of the doubt on strong management skills for maintaining operations. But it's the maintain and sustain of our current course is what is so troubling!

There is no one prepared for this position because we are entering in a new age on earth and humanity.

So I respectively disagree with the notion of the requirements you have suggested. They seem a bit non-forward in thinking and I am puzzled by an engineer who's thought processes do not maintain a methodology for future out-of-tolerance conditions.

P.S. Let's focus on what the many can accomplish if inspired to do such and not the individual leadership deliverables!
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Your conclusion is part of the problem...
by chash360 February 7, 2008 3:15 PM PST
Basically what your saying is that the office of the presidency is not enough power, that the person seeking election to the office must carry additional (ie: corrupt and illegal) power with them in order to get elected. It is foolish voting like this that creates the problem, you obviously don't believe in democracy, if you think only the ruthless can be effective in our government.

Your thinking perpetuates the problem.
cnet authors responding to chat - policy shift?
by servermaker February 7, 2008 7:46 AM PST
I've recently noticed a number of articles on c|net where the authors are engaging in dialog with the readers in the chat area. Is this now being encouraged at c|net, or is this just something that the authors have decided to do, or has this been going on forever? I've seen it from time to time in the past, but seems to happen more so now.

One more way that the profession of journalism is shifting in response to changes in communication technology...

Debate classes as a core requirement in mass media journalism undergrad programs!?
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CNET authors
by declan00 February 7, 2008 8:11 AM PST
Well, yes and no. I've been on the Internet since 1988 and have run my own discussion mailing list since 1994. Online discussion is hardly new to me, at least. I think I found Usenet circa 1990. :)

I think in terms of Orders From Management Above, News.com writers are generally encouraged to participate in talkback. This isn't a new thing, and we're trying to improve our talkback mechanism to encourage good conversations. But because writers have different personalities, some do it more than others.
Ron Paul
by SeizeCTRL February 7, 2008 7:52 AM PST
Just out of curiosity, how did Ron Paul fare there in the valley? He seems to have huge support online, so just wondering if made any ground there around the bay.
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Ron Paul? Who?
by Below Meigh February 7, 2008 8:00 AM PST
RP. Those initials. So familiar. Ross Perot. And a Clinton running. Irony? Deja Vu? Once again, history repeats (and quickly) and another RP will siphon votes away from the needed.
Come on Paulies, run to the quest! Save our country from those DemLibs! A Clintonian pariah is coming. Only you can stop it.
Ron Paul = blip
by Techno Guy February 7, 2008 9:10 AM PST
Ron Paul made hardly a blip in Santa Clara County: 4,643 votes, or just slightly over 5% of the Republican vote in the County. Even Mike Huckabee did better.
Tech didn't lose CA for Obama
by binarimon February 7, 2008 8:58 AM PST
It was the record turnout at the polls by the latino community. Latinos viewd the Clinton years as better for their community and Obama has no track record with them. Regardless of who gets the nomination or wins the general election- the next person on watch at 1600 pennsylvania ave needs to make domestic issues the priority and that means shifting attention to the technology sector vs. Energy (e.g.,traditional energy) where it has been locked the past 8 yrs.
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Obama wins in Silicon Valley
by elleek February 7, 2008 9:11 AM PST
If you look carefully, CD 14 - which is the area known as the
original Silicon Valley, encompassing parts of San Mateo, Santa
Clara and Santa Cruz counties WAS WON by Barack Obama. 47,804
(49.9%) to 42,808 (44.7%).
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Obama loses?
by SportyandMisty February 7, 2008 9:14 AM PST
Obama? Hillary? Never heard of 'em. They must be "surrender first" left-wing, let-all-the-illegals-in-cause-they-vote-for-democrat traitors.
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Santa Clara County not = Silicon Valley
by davidb0130 February 7, 2008 9:21 AM PST
Santa Clara County is a very large county with a very big Latino population. Latinos went overwhelmingly for Clinton, which is what made the difference here.

In my congressional district (14)which is centered around Palo Alto and is more representative of the high tech industry, Obama won by five points.
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useless article wihtout the absentee numbers
by salimmadjd February 7, 2008 9:43 AM PST
This article shows the author's lack of understanding of California primaries and makes me wonder about the quality of research done at cnet.

One only has to look at the percentage of the votes casted for Edwards and extrapolate that against Edwards California poll numbers to get a sense of how many absentee voters voted in California. Mrs. Clinton name identity and her favorable poll numbers helped her when many of the absentees were casted on top of the large Latino and Asian voters in the bay area together send her into Feb 5th with a huge advantage.

Lastly, myspace/facebook friends does not mean silicon valley it means youth support. Then again, maybe iconoclasts don't understand these sort of things ;)
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have you lost your mind?
by winterkm February 7, 2008 11:12 AM PST
Obama won big in Silicon Valley - you can't just look at Santa Clara County which had a ton of absentee voters - and say he lost it!!

Exit polls show that those who voted on Tuesday favored Obama.

Obama also has a huge ground game which worked its butt off trying to counter the absentee situation here.

The more people know Obama, the more support he gets.

Wow... this column isn't journalism, this is propaganda.

-Kev
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Phony Liberals
by mauigino February 7, 2008 11:26 AM PST
Voting for Obama is SF's way of helping 8% of the population to get out from double digit unemployment, poverty and discrimination. SF subsidizes white middle class adults who want to just live on the street and smoke dope all day, but, they can't get internet access to the housing projects!!!
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obama
by joseph thavundayil February 7, 2008 12:38 PM PST
americans are chasing obama bin laden and embrasing obama hussain .sounds odd to see people are eager to make another born muslim as th head of the USA.Didn't you learn a lesson from the bushmania.
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What?
by Thomas, David February 8, 2008 10:17 AM PST
A. He's not muslim
B. He's born American born
C. I really didn't comprehend your comment.
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