Are universities protecting students from the RIAA?
As I wrote earlier this week, the Recording Industry Association of America has now expanded its campaign against illicit file-sharing to students at George Washington University.
One thing I noticed when reading through the court documents is how sluggish the RIAA's attorneys and its MediaSentry contractor have been in filing these lawsuits. Even though the complaint was filed on September 19, this excerpt lists IP addresses in use as long ago as February:
Doe # 1 IP Address: 128.164.100.11 2007-02-02 05:59:17 EST Doe # 2 IP Address: 128.164.100.11 2007-03-05 04:29:42 EST Doe # 3 IP Address: 128.164.100.158 2007-04-14 16:57:39 EDT Doe # 4 IP Address: 128.164.100.22 2007-03-26 02:02:52 EDT Doe # 5 IP Address: 128.164.100.72 2007-05-10 00:24:36 EDT
If GWU has deleted its logs of who was using what IP address back then, the RIAA is going to be out of luck. So this becomes an important question: how long do universities keep logs showing who's been assigned a particular IP address? And why won't they say what the duration is?
"We have not systematically surveyed our members regarding their data retention practices, especially IP addresses," Rodney Petersen, Educause's government relations officer, told me in e-mail. "Anecdotally, our members have reported varying retention practices--ranging from keeping them for as little time as necessary, usually a few days, for internal security purposes to keeping them indefinitely. There is little uniformity in practice based upon our informal inquiries." Educause is, of course, a nonprofit group that represents higher education institutions and oversees the .edu domain.
The RIAA's lawsuit against GWU students in Washington, D.C., is not an outlier. The RIAA sued 21 "John Does" at Boston University on May 2. The alleged infringing activity in that case goes back to January 15, meaning the RIAA waited nearly four months.
Now, there's no legal obligation for colleges or universities to keep records of temporary IP address assignment, assuming addresses are allocated on demand through a protocol like DHCP. (They also can be allocated semi-permanently based on geographic location such as residence hall or campus office.)
"Georgetown University uses DHCP to assign IP addresses but in order to protect the integrity of our computer security systems we do not release information about length of storage," Georgetown spokeswoman Julie Green Bataille told me on Wednesday. For its part, GWU didn't reply at all.
The reason I know there's no legal obligation is that I spent much of the last three years writing about precisely this topic: lobbying Congress to enact mandatory IP address logging was a favorite hobby of former attorney general Alberto Gonzales. Even though some companies like Comcast decided to extend their logging policy to six months, Gonzales still resigned without getting what he wanted.
Universities may want to keep longterm logs of IP addresses assigned in hopes of discouraging file-sharing. Multi-month logs may help identify network misuse. On the other hand, schools may try to protect their students' privacy by keeping logs for only a few days (and then may not want to publicize it for fear of being publicly criticized by the RIAA or Congress for being "soft on piracy").
While schools have the right to set whatever policies they want--in a pro-copyright or pro-privacy direction--they should at least be public about it. That would let students, faculty, and staff debate the topic in the open rather than let rules be set in private by attorneys or administrators who tend to be far too risk-averse. It would also, I suppose, let students who are wavering between one school and another decide whether they'd rather attend a school that has chosen copyright as a paramount value, or one that has embraced privacy instead.
(If you know more details about a particular university's data retention policy, please post them below...)
Declan McCullagh, CNET News' chief political correspondent, chronicles the intersection of politics and technology. He has covered politics, technology, and Washington, D.C., for more than a decade, which has turned him into an iconoclast and a skeptic of anyone who says, "We oughta have a new federal law against this." E-mail Declan.




A pro-private attitude of some Universities can lure over students to them.
Most Students like music. Some Students like challenges. Teenagers and Young adults are known to test bounderies.
Put everything together and you have a nightmare for the RIAA and a recipie for Universities and Colleges to increase their student count and their financial future.
RIAA like MS should be stopped bothering and/or suing people.
If they could not find a good marketing policy and a better self defense without invading everyone else they have no right to nothing.
First fact necessary to be respected is respect, go tell Gates, RIAA and their lawyers.
- who the owner is, (you'd be surprised how many artists don't own their own songs, even when they wrote them,)
- what rights are available, (this "All Rights Reserved" crap simply doesn't work,) and
- what the right the end user actually has.
Keep a copy of the contracts in a CDDB-type accessible database.
Why should they have to go to the expense to store, (backup, maintain, etc.) records just in case some business with a busted business plan wants to go trolling through their private data?
to be filed and require that all documents potentially related to
the suit (in all forms, electronic or paper) must be preserved.
This is particularly easy if the university is named in the suit for
aiding or abetting the infringement, or that its employees will be
called as witnesses.
Now, the wait period could be due to a lot of things so I'm not going to even try to speculate on that or suggest how the RIAA could get around this.
and going after kids
the RIAA and its affiliates are only going to encourage file swappers to be more private, while facing potential consumer backlash or their spiteful business practices.
?And remember, where you have a concentration of power in a few hands, all too frequently men with the mentality of gangsters get control. History has proven that. All power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.?
- Lord Acton
Unless you want your student sued by pigopolist record companies?
Personally, if I were a college network, I wouldn't bother. The reasons are simple:
* most college networks are (still) staffed mostly by student volunteers - who happen to have access to the logs - who can (with a bit of work) alter them at any time. That makes them unreliable. We won't even have to touch on the traffic in 'off-the-books' login names that are created which track to, well... nobody.
* anything older than two weeks has no real benefits to outweigh the burden of disk space and backup tape.
* college networks are (still) notoriously insecure.
* What makes you so sure I'm John Doe #48, and not the guy who copied #48's login info from his freshman orientation kit, which he left sitting out in easy view on the desk next to mine? He's a Drama major anyway, bragging about having his own place off-campus, so he prolly won't ever use it...
* The most popular ISP in a college dorm building is an unsecured wireless one named "linksys".
I could go on, but I think y'all get the idea.
/P
The RIAA (along with the MPAA and similar thugs) will be going down. They are already losing market share to Apple, Real/Rapsody and the beloved indie labels and their continued gestapo practices shall only bring them further self-destruction and alienation with consumers. The world prays for that day they will be no more.
And even if they did, SOX doesnt cover DHCP lease records!
Stop the madness.
Authoring rights can only be defended defending freedom and privacy at the same time.
All invading of privacy is against authors which will be the first to be persecuted by any Big Brother a country may suffer. Truly authors with real genious and authority know this.
Authors and everybody knows that if you do not respect -you ignore- others rights you can not defend yours. RIAA, MS and alike seem not to understand this easy facts, worse for them.
I hope the land of the free and the home of the brave do not surrender to them.
- 10 Day logs - We use webtrends for websites
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October 18, 2007 10:40 AM PDT
- The company I work for keeps server/website logs for 10 days. We use webtrends for website logging. Our logs run gigabytes, hence the 10 day limit and that's just to allow us to fix problems. All reporting on statistics comes from webtrends. No individual statistics, just group trends. F** the RIAA.
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