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January 8, 2009 4:22 PM PST

Obama urges Congress to postpone DTV transition

by Stephanie Condon

President-elect Barack Obama's transition team on Thursday asked Congress to consider postponing the upcoming national switch to digital television, warning that more congressional action is needed to address potential problems.

In a letter sent to the Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee and the House Energy and Commerce Committee, transition co-chair John Podesta called funding in support of the switch "woefully inadequate," The Washington Post reported.

The letter comes on the heels of news that the $1.3 billion fund to provide citizens with $40 coupons for digital converter boxes has run dry, and more than 100,000 consumers already sit on a waiting list for the coupons. For months, officials have said the digital transition, scheduled for February 17, is likely to be fraught with problems.

Rep. Ed Markey (D-Mass.), a senior member of the House Telecommunications and the Internet subcommittee, said it was worth considering pushing back the date.

"The prospect of leaving millions of consumers in the dark requires Congress to immediately consider the feasibility of the President-elect's proposal," in spite of significant logistical challenges, he said.

He also said Congress should immediately pass legislation to make more coupons available.

Other members of Congress came out in support of adding emergency funds to the federal program, including Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.), ranking member of the Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee. However, Hutchison said it would be unwise at this point to set back the date of the transition.

"Shifting the date this close to the transition without a sound plan to share information about the new transition date will likely result in significant confusion," she said.

Stephanie Condon is a staff writer for CNET News focused on the intersection of technology and politics. She is based in Washington, D.C. E-mail Stephanie.

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by groink_hi January 8, 2009 4:49 PM PST
I'd say go with the February date as planned. The FCC has spent over two years on this! Even in early 2008, it was impossible NOT to know of the February 2009 deadline. With the banners scrolling by your favorite shows every night for the past year, how can anyone miss it?

Basically, what Obama is asking for is a delay for these procrastinators who waited until the very last minute before applying for these coupons. I received my coupon in March 2008. I say to heck with them! Let the people lose their TV signal and have them call the FCC for technical assistance. And, the box is only $40 or so.

FYI, Hawaii (where I live) is getting cut over to DTV January 15 - one month earlier than the mainland.
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by rdupuy11 January 9, 2009 7:26 AM PST
This is a delay on top of a delay. The original rollout was 2006. Now its 2009. Now delay it again, they say.

What they've noticed, quite correctly, is that after 3 years of warnings, there are old people that never noticed or paid attention or did anything about the announcement that they needed a converter box.

They noticed, that people who could easily afford their own $40 converter box, who had satellite or cable, or a built in digital tuner, and didn't even need the box,...nevertheless flooded the system with requests for converter boxes, because....no suprise here, they are free. Might as well pick one up to add some retail value to that old tube tv that you plan to get rid of, someday.

But none of these things are going to change. in 2011, Granny still won't prepare for this change, and will be caught by surprise.

They way you help Granny is let her tv go dark, and then she'll ask somebody about it, and they'll say...oh granny, you need a converter box, let me help you with that.

If you want to make the transition happen, then start the transition.
by patch991 January 9, 2009 9:39 AM PST
Before I say what I have to say ... I would guess to say that the individuals that don't have a digital ready TV probably don't have the resources to read these posts!

Anyhow, at first glance, I too wanted to say "Screw them, proceed with the change over date" ... but upon further consideration, I would think it wise to push back the date until all the bases are covered. Basically my reasons for this is that the TV isn't only for grandpa to watch the Waltons or your 10 year old to watch South Park, but a major means of communication in the event of disaster via the Emergency Broadcast System. Sure there's the radio, but do you listen to the radio while watching TV? I only do that when I'm reading ;-)
by paulsecic January 9, 2009 10:04 AM PST
Just buy a cheap digital set. Please don't delay the transition!
by BlackPenguin January 17, 2009 6:58 PM PST
Just buy a cheap digital tv? interesting statement. I could afford to buy a 1,000 dollar tv, but sister could not. Now given I could afford to get her a tv. But what about all those people who can't afford a new tv. Yes 180 buck might not sound like much, but if you are living from hand to mouth, then it is a fortune. That sort of statement ( just buy a cheap digitial tv ) shows a serious lack of thought. Just for the record, I say, don't change the roll over date. You can change it, change it again, and change it again. There will be certain people who will never ever be prepared for one reason or another. If they are going to make the change, then make it. If they aren't going to make the change, then the government should drop the subject. Yes there will be a wave of people going into stores to try to figure out what happened, but sadly that is unavoidable. As for adding more money to the coupon program, yes definitely put in more money. There are a lot of fixed income people who either waited to long, or just didn't know of the change. No need to hose them over.
by rafe January 8, 2009 4:49 PM PST
I'm not too surprised. Government-mandated technology changes rarely (if ever) happen on schedule. HDTV? Analog to digital mobile phones? How about fuel economy standards?
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by SpiritWater January 8, 2009 10:06 PM PST
It is prudent that it is delayed, since so many are not prepared and especially during the bad economy when people are going without cable/satellite.

This will help Obama in 2012 so he won't have many angry voters remembering how they lost television during his term.
by thelemurking January 9, 2009 5:30 AM PST
I work for a TV/Radio broadcasting company so this is something we are watching very closely. One thing we have noticed is a lot of people are getting coupons who do not need them. Right now in my area only 4.7% of the population are not on cable or satellite. So of that 4.7% there is no way to really determine how many even pick up TV OTA.

We have shut down our analog transmitter for tests and have only had 3 people during the 2 days it was off to call and say they could not pick us up. Now it's possible there were others who just said the hell with it, went to one of the other local stations OTA or turned off their TV and went and did something else. But we seem to be leaning more towards most people who watch TV have cable or satellite and a very select few still pick up TV over the air. Not to sound rude here, but in most cases the people who still pick up TV OTA are old people and people in very rural areas. I'm not sure if an 80 yr old grannie living way on the outskirts is even going to know how to hook up a digital converter box.

I'm hoping we stick to the Feb deadline so we can officially retire our 40 yr old analog transmitter that eats power like Rosie O'Donnell eats doughnuts.
by Mergatroid Mania January 9, 2009 11:03 AM PST
HAH! How about the metric system? This looks like the same old crap. US government promises to update something by changing to a better system, but back out of it and it never happens.

If $1.3 billion has run dry, one has to ask where all that money went. I think maybe an audit is indicated here.

Either the amount of cash required was way underestimated, or this cash ended up somewhere it shouldn't have.
by Spartan_458 January 8, 2009 4:56 PM PST
Keep the date. This has been in the works for years now. It's tome for people to figure out the hard way that they need a converter box. Typical liberals. Delaying it to cater to the lowest common denominator. If you haven't heard about the switchover yet, you don't watch TV. Those ads are everywhere.
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by shootthecops January 8, 2009 5:47 PM PST
I agree with your statements. The ONLY excuse for analog TV people NOT having this worked out by now is laziness, then again, you could say that about most of the people on welfare.
by simonsonjh January 8, 2009 5:04 PM PST
The best thing for everyone is let the whole thing go dead. Then people will not waste so much time watching trash on TV.
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by laremiller January 8, 2009 10:56 PM PST
Instead, they'll waste more time reading trash online.
by BlackPenguin January 17, 2009 7:01 PM PST
lol
by vamman January 8, 2009 5:22 PM PST
Come on. Is this a sign of Obama's real reasoning? I always questioned his campaign style and how he really never told people what exactly he was going to do without first starting the sentence about the other guy and then never elaborating in the end. When he did elaborate I never liked most of his ideas. I used to be a hard right liberal.
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by alphaa10 January 9, 2009 3:37 AM PST
Aside from your visceral dislike of Obama-- which may have nothing to do with logic or ideas-- you have started your critique "talking about the other guy and then never elaborating in the end". Only oxymorons are "hard right liberals", (which may include Lieberman, for all anyone knows).
by bgnm January 8, 2009 5:31 PM PST
This is the sort of "know-it-all" meddling that we can expect for the next 4 years. His willingness to weigh-in on any issue despite his obvious ignorance will continue to get/keep him in trouble.
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by sanenazok January 8, 2009 9:38 PM PST
You mean 8 years...better get yourself ready. Maybe Burris can step in after the first two terms.
by alphaa10 January 9, 2009 3:52 AM PST
"Know-it-all meddling"? As president, Obama has not only prerogative but duty to weigh in on matters of public policy. The basic administration argument is sound-- the country is not completely ready for the digital switch. Therefore, if it is not, make every effort required to help those who want help to be ready.

This country's digital conversion date is not chiseled in stone. For substantial numbers of TVs to blink out throough unintelligent and inflexible government policy is what you GOP bozos claim you love to hate about bureaucracy. But what you really dislike is when-- in contrast to the eight years of Bush-- a new federal administration begins to speak and act intelligently and with bold leadership.

"Know-it-all meddling"? Where were you when Bush indulged in his famously fraudulent "know-it-all meddling" about mushroom clouds, WMDs and threats to national security-- when in fact he had little solid basis for his claims?
by sbtnkl January 9, 2009 8:16 AM PST
So perhaps you'd like to just let our wanna be dictator Bush take care of this like he's taken care of the rest of the world. Oh, I forgot, he would if he could say "Digital" without stumbling over the pronunciation. Honestly, no wonder his father has hidden from public view during his tenure.

Seriously, I don't dissagree with either side. A delay is prudent but there's nothing like getting the cart rolling with a little push. I truly don't believe a few days without television is going to kill anyone. If they realy want their television back all they have to do is ask for help (we're talking bout the elderly now as I realy don't care about the rest of the population who may be simply to lazy to get it done in advance).
by sanenazok January 9, 2009 10:44 AM PST
@alphaa10: Another delay does not equal bold leadership. Bold leadership would be *doing something* about the problem rather than just delaying the inevitable. If Obama is worried about the transition he should propose a solution...oh wait he did already...throw some more money at it. Wow, where did he come up with that one. Yepieee, because of Bush claims about WMD Obama gets to delay DTV transition. What a way to make sense. In exchange for the second FREE DTV channel, the broadcasters should be responsible for the transition, the the president or the FCC.
by sanjayb January 8, 2009 6:29 PM PST
They should move ahead with the original date. Or this will never happen.

Also isn't it time you guys move to the metric system like the rest of the world??
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by Michael too January 8, 2009 8:08 PM PST
I can remember arguing about the conversion to HDTV with a guy at a party in 1989. He claimed it would happen in the next couple of years. I thought it would take a lot longer (say 1999) because Congress would waffle about hurting the 'little old ladies with rabbit ear antennas'.
by Ebeale January 8, 2009 6:46 PM PST
The frequencies have been sold they can?t keep delaying. I still can?t believe the government is handing out $40 coupons. What a waste of tax payer money. Did they do this when color TV's came out?
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by sanenazok January 8, 2009 9:36 PM PST
Color was designed for perfect backward compatibility with B&W sets...except of course for the color part. I have a B&W TV connected to my DTV converter so even DTV works fine on a B&W TV from the 60s.
by dbargen January 8, 2009 6:47 PM PST
What? People can't afford to lay down a few twenties for a luxury item? It's your fellow tax payers to the rescue!

I guess this is what you get when you have your government trying to control business behavior for their desired outcome- more tax money wasted than ever.

As for moving to the metric system, youvgoddabekiddinmeh! For people like me who's business is all about measurements (i.e. architects & engineers) it'd be almost unthinkable to have to deal with code changes and restructuring drawings and design methods.

Until we're the last one standing in the use of ye Olde English system, I doubt the industry will change over. It's too expensive for our firms and it's too expensive for regulators.
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by Mergatroid Mania January 9, 2009 11:14 AM PST
OMG, you do realize this is the 21st century right? Do you know that the UKs Beagle Lander bit the dust on Mars because of an error converting metric to "ye Olde English system"?

Get with the rest of the world. Sure, lets keep the USA in the dark ages to appease a couple of million people in the US who are too old to realize that the metric system works way better than that old English system ever did. After all, the OTHER 6 BILLiON people in the world can't possibly be right.
by rtripathi January 8, 2009 6:48 PM PST
I think it should be delayed as 50% coupons expired because of stupid 90 day limit. When we got coupon the converters were not available and coupons expired by the time they became available. There should have been a program like rebate. Buy the converter box and mail the rebate form along with UPC code and you'll get the rebate check.
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by thelemurking January 9, 2009 6:03 AM PST
Did you really need the DTV converter box? I may be going out on a limb here but if your a tech savvy enough to be on the internet and post here, then I am assuming that you probably have cable or satellite TV at home.

That's one of the things we have been discussing at work is how many people are getting these coupons who really do not need them, while others are on a waiting list who really do need them.
by sanenazok January 9, 2009 10:46 AM PST
@thelemurking: Except there's no way for you to know either way...making your discussions about the subject a big bunch of mental BS.

Look the government advertised the program and said there was a deadline. The deadline passed, coupons expired. Too bad...not the first time that a "first come, first served" item has run out.
by thelemurking January 9, 2009 1:08 PM PST
@sanenazok

except I personally know people who have used their vouchers to get the DTV converter boxes and they don't even watch TV OTA. They had this fear that when Feb hit they wouldn't be able to watch TV on 'non flatpanel' TVs. I think there is a lot of confusion with the public as to what is analog and digital and they do not really understand that if they are on cable or satellite there is no need for a box.

The only reason I even have one is for testing purposes and to periodically check our station's signal in both analog and digital. If it wasn't job related, I would not have even bothered since I already have cable along with an HD package.
by BlackPenguin January 17, 2009 7:06 PM PST
I work in retail. Every day someone comes in with a coupon or 2. I ask each and every one of them ( who have a coupon) , if they are on antenna. 100% of them have said yes. Not a one has said they are on cable or sat. Not sure about other parts of the country though. BTW I am in Minnesota.
by jdpastrain January 8, 2009 7:06 PM PST
We travel full time in a motor home. We obtained a converter box in September. We have found many areas are already up and running. This is such an improvement over analog it isn't even funny. We don't have to raise or orient our roof antenna to get a perfect signal within the same area as analog. The only thing you give up over satellite or cable, is selection but then it is free! Not sure why the government is subsidizing people's cost of conversion. Once analog is gone, people will go out and get a box for $50 to $100 and when they see how it works they will quit ******** and wonder why they waited. Don't know how to do it? Can you read simple instructions or set up a dvd player? Maybe a savvy neighbor could help! So why delay the conversion, the broadcasters are ready? Over the air TV has never been free. You always had to buy the TV, and in fringe areas put up an elaborate antenna.
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by martin_c_e January 8, 2009 7:15 PM PST
Turn off analog now! I have been watching ota-dtv for 3 years now and am bored to tears for the last year of hearing about the conversion and how to get coupons. Obama and Consumer's Union seem to think that more time will wake up people who don't care. The wireless companies are going to request rebates because they have the rights to the 700 megahertz band.
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by knowles2 January 9, 2009 8:22 AM PST
I doubt wireless firms will get a penny, the US government are idiots if they did not includes a clause in contract for the sale of the 700 megaherts band to allow them to delay the switch over for reasons of lack of take up or delays in distributing the converter sets.
by robvme January 8, 2009 7:23 PM PST
Sure, let's just stop innovating and keep behind the curve. For a decade we have known about this. The Japanese and other European countries have been enjoying this tech for years now. How many people really still use a roof top antenna and don't have cable or satellite?

And if the numer is significant, then wouldn't this scheduled switch drive some sales to the telecom industry as people are moved to these technologies? Is it really a crisis that some segment may be without tv for a little while?
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by martin_c_e January 8, 2009 7:39 PM PST
Roughly 15% of Americans watch only broadcast. Many of us do not see anything compelling on cable worth paying for, along with all the taxes & fees.
by thelemurking January 9, 2009 6:10 AM PST
15% seems to be a highly inflated number. In my market, we have it at 4.7% And of that 4.7% who knows how many of them really watch TV.

There are lots of great things on cable... Sci Fi, Comedy Central, Discovery Science, Sundance, Independent Film Channel, Animal Planet, Cartoon Network, HDNet, Military Channel, G4, all the cable news networks, BBC America. There's plenty of great content out there that is definitely worth paying for. What would be nice is to pay only for the channels you want instead of these huge packages. The biggest part of my cable bill is internet... maybe you don't think that's worth paying for either.
by paulsecic January 9, 2009 10:29 AM PST
Cabe is cool. Theres nothing to watch OTA TV except junk /judge Judy, Dr. Phil. YUCK!! I watch the Discovery suite of channels a lot.
by BlackPenguin January 17, 2009 9:23 PM PST
trying to argue if antenna or cable is better is like trying to figure out if the color blue or red is better. thelemurking - i actually agree that most of cable is garbage. and most of it isn't worth paying for. .. your comment of "maybe you don't think that's worth paying for either" only goes to show that you have failed to try to see the other side. yes you enjoy those channels, but maybe martin_c_e doesn't watch that much tv and can't see paying for the few shows that s/he would watch. maybe s/he prefers to PAY for internet access and get their entertainment that way.
by tech_crazy January 8, 2009 7:43 PM PST
Folks, get this in your heads - the goverment (and hence the taxpayers) is making much more on the sale of the existing airwaves than it is spending in the form of the coupons. Also, it doesn't make sense to take away what was free and then make the user pay for it. So, the coupons should be compulsory.

What is ridiculous is the 90 day expiration and the non-reissuance. I myself had 2 coupons that expired before the date printed on them and now they won't be reissued! ***oles.
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by Captain Bebops January 8, 2009 7:50 PM PST
I don't think a delay will go over very well with broadcasters since they already spent a lot of money on the transition and are set up for it to occur next month. And then there are the issues already mentioned that the spectrum has been auctioned off. Obama needs a tech czar to get him up to speed. Plus this was already delayed two years from the original date of 2006. And I've had an HD set for 8 years already!
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by mpitogo January 8, 2009 8:46 PM PST
Yea I agree, keep the date. Analog is just a waste of broadcast power.
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by TheGeekReview January 8, 2009 9:29 PM PST
Keep the date don't push it back any more 'cause I'm getting tired of watching the damn switch coming up commercials. I live in rural California and 2 of the 5 local stations have already switched.
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by Migraine January 9, 2009 5:05 AM PST
Leave the date where it is!!!! they have informed views for years about the change!!!! If you did not see this then your not even using your TV....All ready osama obama is messing up the USA it's Going to be Be a Very Long 4 years...

And why WHY!!!! are so many using rabbit ears???? you cant take it with you people get Basic cable or SAT then you will not need a box ....
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by ahickey January 9, 2009 5:10 AM PST
No matter when the transition happens people will complain.
Being brtual - there will always be people with not enough money for something - even it is was $5.

Do the hand over and findout what the real size of the problem is.
Also, once the real demand for the boxes kicks in they will get a lot cheaper. - with the current rate of exchange you can get a cheap digital box in the UK for about $25.

I'm in the UK and the switch off of analog is being phased in over the next3 years.
I have used terrestrial digital for about 3 years and it is great.
Proper upgrade even for StandardDef content.
Love the 8 day program guide and with a PVR the ability to retire the video recorder. Less boxes under the TV, less power needed, more functionality and wife likes the fact that there is one less remote to wrry about.

On the voucher scheme.
Did people have to be on welfare to qualify or was it open to all?
If no how many of the vouchers are being given to people who could have afforded to buy the box, but were smart enough to take the hand out?
Is a one time payment of $40 too much to ask for this?

I'm originally Irish and they have just decided not to do terresrial digital, I expect they'll just piggy back on the new FreeSAT service from the UK. I think this is just handing the market over to the cable and paid satelitte (Sky) companies. Momentum is behind a move to digital and if there isn't a free terrestrial option then people will just go for the paid version.
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by bsarte January 9, 2009 5:53 AM PST
All I have to say is... REALLY?

When did television become something that every America has a right to? When did *I* as a taxpayer agree to fund a Digital Television Upgrade fund?

Television is a privilege, not a right. If you cannot afford to watch television then I am sorry, don't. If your TV is too old -- I have this feeling that you probably still have your VCR from 1988, so watch some VHS movies until you can save the $40 to buy the box to convert the signal. Being without television is not the end of the world. I've been there and come out alive... and you can too... Read a book.

And furthermore, is this really SO important that our President-Elect should even be considering taking any action at all? I am very pleased that the time it took for him to write that letter was not on my dime. But once he is sworn in, I am sure he will be wasting my money writing more silly letter about things as earth shattering as iTunes DRM prices and Microsoft Zune reboot glitches...

It will be a great day in America when the government stops worrying about the minutia of how we watch television and actually focuses on the issues that people voted for like healthcare, war and unemployment.
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by ariess63 January 9, 2009 7:11 AM PST
Why should *I* as a taxpayer have to buy a new TV or pay $30 for basic cable so that I can have what I had for years for free. I have also gone without TV and have lived through it. But now I live near a major city and can get it for free. But I do have to pay extra tax for huge sports arenas. And yes, even "us po folk" pay taxes.
by bsarte January 9, 2009 1:59 PM PST
Because watching TV is NOT A RIGHT. If you can afford to watch TV then God Bless. If not, then too bad.
by ariess63 January 10, 2009 6:52 AM PST
I think they should go ahead with the change over, I'm not saying we shouldn't. But you just don't seem get it. We are being forced to do this. And for many people this is the only way to get any emergency information (natural disasters ect.). You can no longer get this information from your radio since there are very few locally owned radio stations left in this country. It is true though that none of us has the RIGHT to be able to watch TV. But I think this is a far better thing for the government to susidize than like banks, big oil, ect., ect. I do think the change should go ahead though.I can hardly wait until they tell us we have to change the kind of car we drive. I mean driving is not a right, right?
by ralfthedog January 12, 2009 9:03 AM PST
Not having a TV is a good way to get yourself killed where I live. A nearby small city was effectively destroyed twice within just a few years by natural disasters. Drive less than 10 miles and you will reach the site of a large terrorist attack where many Americans died.

Having a weather radio and listening for the sirens is a good start, but the weather radio will only tell you when you should turn on the TV and you should be in your basement before the sirens go off.
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