Q&A: Amid bailout plans, CEA chief extols free trade
The worsening U.S. economy has elicited a range of responses from lawmakers in recent weeks.
President-elect Barack Obama officially introduced his economic team on Monday, giving more indication that reinvigorating the nation's slumping economy will be his top priority once he is sworn into office. Lawmakers are still considering whether to provide assistance to the auto industry and may put together a new, massive stimulus package.
Meanwhile, President Bush over the weekend continued to press for more free trade--a cause heartily endorsed by the consumer electronics industry.
The chance for Congress to put the Colombia free trade agreement to an up-or-down vote expires with its lame-duck session. With just weeks left, groups like the Consumer Electronics Association--which represents companies like Apple, Microsoft, and Hitachi--are doing all they can to convince lawmakers that enabling free trade will stimulate the economy.
Gary Shapiro, CEO, Consumer Electronics Association
CEA President and CEO Gary Shapiro says that other countries will beat the United States to the punch if Congress does not ratify the agreement. Indeed, Colombia just recently signed free trade deals with Canada and China. Congress has refused to ratify the United States' agreement with Colombia, arranged in 2006, because of concerns over human rights practices in Colombia.
Shapiro spoke with CNET News recently about why free trade is critical for the U.S. economy, what the consumer electronics sector expects from an Obama administration, and how the industry will fare in today's floundering economy.
Q: Why is the CEA so interested in promoting free trade?
Shapiro: In the 21st century, trade is important to any country, and other countries seem to realize that. Now we need to.
The (Colombia) agreement is very important for a variety of reasons. American companies have given over $1.3 billion in tariffs to Colombia. Today, (Colombia) pays absolutely nothing.
It's also important from a big picture perspective. There's a battle being fought for the hearts and minds for Latin Americans, and politically, Colombia's one of our best friends in the region. The Colombian people and their leaders have done everything we've asked, so we want to reward the fact Colombia has been so helpful. We don't want to drive them into the arms of Castro and Chavez.
Electronics aren't the first goods that come to mind when thinking about trade with Colombia--how much does this trade agreement really impact the technology sector?
Shapiro: They clearly send us a lot of roses, and we in turn send them several pieces of fairly sophisticated equipment like John Deere machines. It's not that it's critical for the future of the tech industry, but if we can't pass the Colombia free trade agreement, there will be no others in the future. It is the death of free trade, and the rest of the world will pass us by.
From your perspective, why hasn't the Colombia free trade agreement been put to a vote in Congress?
Shapiro: Because Speaker Nancy Pelosi has not allowed it to be voted on. We suspect the unions have asked her to not vote on it. Unions, I suspect, never want to see a free trade agreement again.
This is bipartisan--it's supported without objection by both sides, but the opportunity to vote on it up or down expires with this Congress. It's not challenging in that we have yet to find anyone who disagrees with the trade deal. The only challenge is some Democrats don't want to buck the unions or Speaker Pelosi. We feel we have the votes there, other than Speaker Pelosi and a few others.
I would be surprised if Congress passes anything this year that would be signed by the president if it didn't have Colombia as a part of it. This is the last thing the administration wants to do before bowing out. They are so frustrated, as are Republicans and many Democrats.
How is the CEA working with Congress to move the Colombia agreement forward?
Shapiro: Congress is coming back in December, and our job is to make sure that in anything Congress passes, this is part of the deal. I cannot imagine a Detroit bailout package without this being part of it.
But if you're seeking to get a change, it has got to come from the Congress and the Colombians. The only thing we can do is put the pressure on them. We ran a series of ads last week in The Hill, Politico, and Roll Call, basically giving the message to pass the free trade agreement to get the economy going. They have pictures of U.S. workers saying this is the best economic stimulus you can give right now.
The tech industry is not going to Congress for a handout. We're not asking for anything but the ability to trade and the ability to innovate.
Do you think you'll be able to work with President-elect Obama to move the tech agenda forward?
Shapiro: Some of the things President-elect Obama has said--that we need to attract to the best and the brightest and invest in broadband deployment--we're optimistic because of that. He ran the most phenomenal digital campaign in history. He's used technology, and he sees the power of it. He is president in part because of consumer electronics, whether it was texting or reaching voters through some other technology. I'm sure he sees the value there, all the positive things technology can do, so I don't think there's that much education that's going to be required there.
It's clear his focus is on the economy. His team has already given hints from the people around him that they'll be looking at the Colombia trade agreement. There are a thousand question marks remaining, but he's indicated through his people he'd like to have it on the agenda for next year.
Congress has taken some major steps lately to shield American businesses from market forces--do you fear what that could mean for free trade?
Shapiro: Yes. I am concerned about the future competitiveness of the United States. I think we have the most competitive economy in the world, but we have a big challenge ahead of us in the next few years.
Future job growth is likely to come from the technology industry, and innovation requires the flexibility for companies to hire and fire. In the tech industry, unionization would be devastating, frankly.
So we are opposing the card check legislative proposal. It's the question of how workers can be intimidated into unionization when they don't want that.
(The Employee Free Choice Act, also called "card check" legislation, passed in the House of Representatives in 2007. The bill would allow workers to unionize by signing a card rather than through secret ballot. It stalled in the Senate last year.)
It's a matter of freedom of employee privacy. The private vote has been a part of American society for 200 years. That's how people vote.
How will the consumer electronics sector hold up in the current economic climate?
Shapiro: Better than most, but not as good as we would like. Technology products are more of a necessity. They used to be a luxury, but now people need products to do a whole set of things that are considered essential in their lives.
In economic downturns, to the extent that people lose their jobs, they want to start a home office to start a new business. With this increasing emphasis on teleworking, people will be investing in personal technology.
Consumer electronics products hold up very nicely in terms of providing value per hour of use. Any of our products are a fraction of the cost of competing ways of spending money. We're not as important as food, but we're not the boat industry. We're somewhere in between the fun luxury and the absolute necessity.
What other technology-related legislative priorities do you see on the horizon for the next Congress?
Shapiro: For 2009, I think there should be a reduction of the corporate tax rate because it's the highest in the world. We'd like to see a national recycling standard. There are states and localities passing piecemeal laws on how to recycle electronics, but we need a national standard.
I would like to see fast track authority given to the president for trade agreements. Otherwise, you might as well abolish the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative. It's impossible to negotiate an agreement if someone else is going to go back and change it. That authority expired in August, so no trade agreements are being negotiated now because no one will negotiate with us.
Stephanie Condon is a staff writer for CNET News focused on the intersection of technology and politics. She is based in Washington, D.C. E-mail Stephanie. 
Will America gain or lose money? If your company says gain money, are you willing to guarantee that, with your bottom line?
Will there be a trade balance with Columbia, or will we be exporting our dollars to them?
Unfortunately, all we've seen from free trade thus far is jobs that were formerly ours going to other lands, and those who had good jobs getting the jobs of the 21st century--as fryolator cooks.
Free trade is only a winner in America if America wins.
(And that means the average citizen does, not the wealthy and powerful.)
We Need a FAIR TAX policy to enforce what is considered free trade to balance the playing field.
It only more freely allows the "free trade" of jobs exporting with no work for whats left in the U.S.
More and more manufacturing leaves the U.S., then services, then tech.
What type of jobs will be left that can make the income that these types of jobs bring to the average American? We need to STOP the assumption it is cheaper to build, service, or supply elsewhere.
Remember the old adage "you get what you pay for"?
The news used to talk about percentage of exports vs. imports every night.
I'd like to see what that is now without a skewed input of corporate data.
The vast majority of Colombian products pay no tariffs to enter U.S. markets.
Colombia is our largest export market for U.S. agriculture products in South America (we sell our products to them- our farmers benefit).
Even with U.S. companies paying high tariffs to enter the Colombian market, Colombia is our fourth largest trading partner in Latin America. --Imagine if we didn't have to pay tariffs?
America?s two-way trade with Colombia reached $18 billion in 2007.
U.S. industrial and consumer goods exported to Colombia face tariffs of up to 35 percent, with much higher tariffs on many agricultural products. Remember, they pay ZERO on most of their products entering the US.
Upon entry into force of the U.S. - Colombia FTA, over 80 percent of U.S. exports of consumer and industrial goods to Colombia will enter duty-free immediately.
More than 9,000 U.S. companies export to Colombia,of which 8,000 are small and medium-sized firms.
Each large off-highway truck made in the United States pays over $200,000
in taxes/tariffs to enter the Colombian market.
In 2007, total U.S. goods exports to Colombia reached $8.6 billion.
There is NO economic reason why this agreement should not pass. It is partisian politics holding up a sensible booster to our economy.
Also, in foods coming into the U.S. Many of the taxes are imposed not on the goods themselves, but by the means of travel in which they are delivered to the U.S.
All I see is what agriculture that we may ship now to Columbia, will dramatically be reduced and the flow
will reverse adding another group to the out of work American culture.
More free trade agreements aren't going to help ordinary citizens of the US, only the companies that they'll probably wind up losing their jobs from. If anybody thinks free trade agreements still work to help foster growth in the US, then you need to have your head examined.
As far as the part of the interview about the corporate tax rate, I agree that it is high. Unfortunately wIth all of the loopholes and write-offs that are allowed, no large company (with a good accounting dept.) actually pays the 35% tax rate leaving the burden on the citizens.
- by spothannah November 25, 2008 5:56 AM PST
- In the very short run exporting jobs to other countries will be replaced by exporting jobs from humans to robots. Both manufacturing and service industries are quickly moving to "machine" provision. In manufacturing look at the auto industry in service sector notice how difficult it is to actually talk with a person (I know, it's infuriating, and also notice, though, that the machine abilities are improving.) Soon agriculture will be completely run by machinery. My question is: What will all of the humans do?
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