• On GameFAQs: Is it OK to lay my Wii down on its side?
November 13, 2008 5:47 PM PST

Telcos: Don't mess up the Internet with regulation

by Stephanie Condon

WASHINGTON--Representatives from industry, government, and advocacy groups agreed on Thursday that the Internet needs to be open and widely available throughout the United States. The question is how to get there.

A newly emboldened Democratic Congress is sure to have a long wish list, including new Internet regulations that corporations believe are unwise or unnecessary. Net neutrality regulations are one possibility, as is broadband and spectrum legislation. But it's unclear where the money to pay for sweeping new projects will come from--neither tax increases nor deficit spending on tech seem that likely when a Wall Street and Detroit bailout are center stage--so today's laws and regulations may end up being extended by default.

The next Congress is sure to introduce Net neutrality legislation, a Democratic congressional staffer said Thursday. "With the Obama administration being extremely supportive of Net neutrality, we're quite excited we can actually get things done," said Frannie Wellings, telecom counsel for Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.).

Speaking at a telecommunications law and policy conference hosted by the University of Nebraska College of Law, Wellings said, "We definitely feel legislation is necessary" in the area of Net neutrality. (On the other hand, the Democrats have controlled Congress for two years and have advanced precisely zero Net neutrality bills, even though House Speaker Nancy Pelosi once called it a tremendously important topic.)

Representatives from the telecommunications industry insisted they have a common interest in maintaining open networks since their revenues come from carrying bits--but say that they're OK with the current state of the law. New legislation, they say, is not the way to achieve open access--and could even have adverse results.

The Federal Communications Commission's ruling against Comcast proved the commission's approach of reviewing possible Net neutrality violations on a case-by-case basis is effective, said James Cicconi, senior executive vice president of external and legislative affairs for AT&T.

Panelists at a conference Thursday discuss the merits of broadband and Net neutrality legislation.

(Credit: Stephanie Condon/ CNET News)

"The essence of network management is some form of discrimination," he said. "This really is about what's reasonable and what isn't. Discrimination that impacts consumers negatively is something unreasonable."

Cicconi said Comcast's appeal of the decision "was a mistake from many standpoints," and that a ruling in Comcast's favor would almost certainly lead to Net neutrality legislation, which would make the FCC's review of telecom practices less flexible.

Replacing a flexible, case-by-case approach to Net neutrality enforcement with a common approach "would lead to more litigation, not less," Cicconi said. (See a related CNET article about wireless Net neutrality.)

The threat of litigation against Net neutrality rules may be overblown, suggested Ben Scott, policy director of media advocacy group Free Press. He cited the news that the wireless trade association CTIA recently dropped its legal challenge to the open access conditions the FCC imposed on the C-Block spectrum Verizon purchased earlier this year. Verizon dropped its legal challenge in October.

The 111th Congress will also reintroduce legislation to promote universal broadband, Wellings said, though the need for that was also disputed.

"It's probably the case the FCC, despite the uncertainties, can probably accomplish much of the Obama administration's agenda without legislation," said Richard Wiley, a former FCC chairman who now represents telecom companies as a partner at Wiley Rein.

There was a consensus among the panelists that one significant step the Obama administration could take would be to reallocate spectrum currently appropriated to government agencies.

"The biggest reason it's a precious resource is because the government has appropriated half of it," said Cicconi.

"If we're serious about having wireless as a serious competitor to wired networks, we're going to have to find more spectrum," Scott added. "The best place I see is government allocations."

The Obama administration will also have to revamp the FCC's approach to establishing an public safety network on the D-Block, panelists said.

Cicconi called it "borderline scandalous" that Congress and the Bush administration "saddled the FCC with the conundrum of how to do it without appropriations."

The situation was analogous to giving an agency land on which to build a highway system exclusively for police cars and ambulances but expecting the agency to get private sector funding, Scott said.

"This is a great opportunity and great challenge for the Obama administration," Wiley said.

CNET's Declan McCullagh contributed to this report

Stephanie Condon is a staff writer for CNET News focused on the intersection of technology and politics. She is based in Washington, D.C. E-mail Stephanie.
advertisement
 
Business supplies and services can get expensive. Get smart spending tips and learn about new cost-saving opportunities for your business
Recent posts from Politics and Law
Going rogue? Palin bans gadgets, reporters from speech
Europe getting 'Internet freedom' law
Fiorina's first act as senator: Merge California and Nevada
Congress may require ISPs to block fraud sites
New York antitrust suit accuses Intel of bribery
Report: Oracle not yielding to EU with Sun buy
Spring Design seeks injunction barring Nook sales
Barnes & Noble hit with suit over Nook
Add a Comment (Log in or register) (16 Comments)
  • prev
  • 1
  • next
by ydoineedausername November 13, 2008 7:39 PM PST
...and don't force me to pay $30+ a month for "data" access with a cell phone and call it an "open network"... a-holes!

I want to buy any phone I like, pay $50 a month per line, and use it how I like, period!
Reply to this comment
by Lerianis November 14, 2008 12:02 AM PST
50 dollars a month per line for Unlimited? Try 20! There is no reason for these exceptionally HIGH rates on these phones, it seems that the companies are trying to take advantage of the consumer in the United States because there is very little competition.
by gerrrg November 13, 2008 10:14 PM PST
I don't see how it is useful to use a quote from AT&T against Comcast.

They're in the market to compete against each other, as Comcast is an investor in Clearwire, which AT&T previously issued comments to the FCC to essentially stall Clearwire's efforts with Sprint, while AT&T developed LTE.

Of course no one in the telecom business wants hard regulations...neither did the commercial banking system, now did it? Heck, you could ask any company listed on Wall Street, if they'd like to self-regulate, and you already know what the answer is.
Reply to this comment
by Ubetido November 13, 2008 11:01 PM PST
No matter, biggest cheque book wins ! As usual.
Reply to this comment
by lorcro2000 November 13, 2008 11:03 PM PST
Net neutrality was always about prohibiting adding artificial blockages in networks to discriminate against competitors, not about prohibiting necessary shaping of traffic. Voice over IP traffic should definitely get a higher priority than bulk download traffic, but that is very different from using traffic shaping to block certain forms of traffic entirely in order to save money by not doing needed infrastructure upgrades, or to use the shaping technologies available to sabotage competing voice over ip or other forms of data in favor of that telcos own services.

Net neutrality has worked for many years. It was the law in the US until recently, and it needs to be the law again. Deregulation may work for some things (well... I assume, since it keeps being done), but clearly deregulating everything and letting greed take over and destroy things for everybody is only good for the people who get to cash in on it - be they service providers, banks or the politicans they purchase.
Reply to this comment
by Lerianis November 14, 2008 12:03 AM PST
I have to agree about the voice over IP thing.... it can be life and death in the cases where a person needs to call 9-11, so it SHOULD be prioritized over almost anything else.
by Imalittleteapot November 14, 2008 10:51 AM PST
Maybe if someone is dialing 911 traffic shaping would be ok, but only if they're dialing 911. If they're just calling their boyfriend down the street, well I pay for my bulk data transfers just the same. Unless she's paying more for her connection than I am for my connection why would you give preference to her connection? What, is my money no good? If that's the case then the ISPs can give it back. If they don't want to give it back then treat me the same. What if a business wants to start up a competing service to the local VOIP provider? How are they supposed to fairly compete if VOIP always gets priority over their service?

No, the only way to be fair would be to treat all traffic the same. If I want to start a business and offer a new service over the Internet I should get a fair chance to do so without being automatically traffic shaped into bankruptcy. If there isn't enough bandwidth to get VOIP to work then the ISPs need to take the billions of tax payer dollars they've already gotten from the government and actually build more bandwidth with it like they were supposed to.
by fgoldstein November 14, 2008 6:35 AM PST
The framework is still wrong, but it could be fixed very quickly by the FCC or Congress, if either wanted to.

The reason that the "network neutrality" trope didn't pop up until 2005 is because the rules were very clear until then: The Internet was NOT regulated, and an ISP could pass whatever the hell they wanted to, or block, or proritize, or anything else, and this was GOOD! Huh? Good because there was OPEN ENTRY into the ISP business. ANY ISP could request access to a telco's DSL network. It was under a common carrier tariff. So if an ISP behaved in a way that offended its users, the users could jump ship. And if there was demand for a different type of ISP, one could pop up.

Again, the point is that there was a clear distinction between "carriage" and "content". A telephone company provided carriage, totally bit-neutral, and ISPs could order it in order to provide "content". The entire Internet was treated as "content".

This distinction dated back to the FCC's 1969 Computer Decision, which was clarified and strengthened in 1981's Computer II rules. Those rules said that if a telephone company affiliate (like its own ISP) provided any "enhanced service"(content), then the "basic service" (carriage) that it used had to be made available to all comers on the same terms. Simple and clean. And revoked by the FCC in 2005, at the behest of the telephone companies.

Oh, and don't believe the FCC's lie that the Supreme Court's Brand X decision required them to do it. Read the Brand X decision's text (I did). It explicitly states that it is about cable, not DSL, and that DSL can be subject to different rules. FCC chair Kevin Martin, a Dick Cheney protege, lied through his shiny little teeth when he said that the Brand X decision forced his hand.

Regulating ISPs makes no sense, and would literally break the fragile machinery that keeps the Internet creaking along.
Reply to this comment
by Penguinisto November 14, 2008 6:40 AM PST
So let me ask the telcos something... if you're so against government interventions, then why do y'all run to it whenever a local muni wants to build their own wifi? Google for UTOPIA and Qwest, or UTOPIA and Comcast sometime...

...seems that whenever something threatens their pocketbooks, the telcos go running for legislative *cough*bribery*cough* and assistance in a big hurry...

/P
Reply to this comment
by umbrae November 14, 2008 7:12 AM PST
Activity limiting bandwidth, blocking software/protocols, etc. has been widespread as smaller ISPs drop off the map and replaced by Telephone companies. There are many regulations related to Phone lines and there is highly available, inexpensive phone services. As Telcos are allowed to merge and reform monopolies that existed in the past, and smaller ISPs are bought up or go out of business, regulation is the ONLY way to ensure these companies work in the best interest of their customers and not their shareholders.

If Telcos REALLY wanted to avoid regulation and legislation then Comcast and AT&T (and others) should not have interfered or limited our traffic. Its their own irresponsible behavior that bought this on. The only way to ensure wide-spread internet is to treat it like a utility and as such regulations. They had the opportunity to stay under the radar, but they blew it by being greedy and blocking traffic rather than investing in their infrastructure.
Reply to this comment
by Sir Geek November 14, 2008 7:36 AM PST
I have a problem with their pricing too. Why is it that the cost per month for a cell phone is still huge (I only pay 30, but it is JUST for a phone plan - and I don't live on my cellphone either, its for emergencies, not general use) .

Shouldn't their cell tower infrastructure be paid for now and just in a maintenance mode (How many new towers are they actually building now) ?
Reply to this comment
by Renegade Knight November 14, 2008 7:43 AM PST
Telco's. Don't mess up the net with your own regulations. Just sell me a connection. Not a data limited, capped, with overage fee's, and crippled access, blocked ports, and all the other things that you have cooked up to complicate something simple.
Reply to this comment
by aka_tripleB November 14, 2008 2:28 PM PST
How about a rule saying you cannot call your service broadband if you throttle your service below 768Kbps? And if you do, the most you can charge for your service is $20.
Reply to this comment
by goofindoo November 15, 2008 2:53 PM PST
I don't if it was laziness or just some kind of bias on the columnist's part, but it seems that Stephanie Condon had no problem basing most of her article on the opinions of James Cicconi, senior executive vice president of external and legislative affairs for AT&T. Makes me wonder if AT&T spends a lot of money advertising on CNET.

We've all lived with the big telecoms reluctance to upgrade their bandwidths. We've all seen how the telecoms care nothing about us as customers so why should we trust them to maintain net neutrality? Any time I read an article that takes the side of the telecoms, I have to wonder why?
Reply to this comment
by clynx November 15, 2008 4:09 PM PST
Data caps are nothing more than censorship. If they are having network troubles, do what I do and buy a new and improved router. To treat customers like they are stupid trash to backup some washed up media industry should not be an ISP's responsibility. The internet is not a bunch of tubes as idiot Ted Stevens said.
Reply to this comment
by Dalkorian November 17, 2008 4:56 PM PST
"Trust us", "it's not necessary", "solution looking for a problem", "stay the course" ...

We've tried that. It didn't work. Now we have to fix the mess you're causing by being greedy and stupid. Deal with it, we pity you NOT.
Reply to this comment
(16 Comments)
  • prev
  • 1
  • next
advertisement

FAQ: Buying the right Windows 7 upgrade

Readers still have lots of questions on just which version of the software they need to buy in order to upgrade their PC. CNET News tries to offer some answers.

N.Y. lawsuit details Intel's 'largesse' toward Dell

Attorney General Andrew Cuomo's federal antitrust case filed Wednesday alleges a longstanding symbiotic relationship between Intel and Dell.

About Politics and Law

News at the intersection of technology, politics, and law, ranging from intellectual property to censorship to tech policy.

Add this feed to your online news reader

Politics and Law topics

advertisement
advertisement

Inside CNET News

Scroll Left Scroll Right