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September 22, 2008 5:56 AM PDT

FBI searches apartment of alleged Palin hacker

by Stephanie Condon

Federal authorities are ramping up an investigation of a 20-year-old college student for allegedly hacking into Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's e-mail account.

Sarah Palin

(Credit: Alaska governor's office)

The FBI searched the apartment of alleged hacker David Kernell on Sunday morning, and three of Kernell's roommates could testify this week about the case before a grand jury in Chattanooga, according to local news reports.

After it was discovered that the Republican vice presidential candidate's personal Yahoo e-mail account was hacked into, reports began circulating that the hack could be traced back to Kernell, a University of Tennessee student and son of Democratic Tennessee state representative Mike Kernell.

Witnesses told a local television station that the FBI served a search warrant at Kernell's Knoxville, Tenn., apartment early Sunday morning, interrupting a party, and spent more than an hour taking pictures of the apartment. Kernell's three roommates were subpoenaed to testify this week, a witness also said.

The hacker gained access to Palin's account by guessing certain personal details about the governor's life and then resetting her password to "popcorn." ZIP files with content from Palin's account were posted on the Internet.

Laura Sweeney, a Justice Department public-affairs specialist, confirmed that there was investigatory activity relating to the Palin hack in Knoxville over the weekend but said no criminal charges have been filed against anyone.

Stephanie Condon is a staff writer for CNET News focused on the intersection of technology and politics. She is based in Washington, D.C. E-mail Stephanie.
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by buggermenot September 22, 2008 7:38 AM PDT
When are they going to finally admit that technically Palin using these Yahoo accounts was also illegal?
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by wookie69 September 22, 2008 8:25 AM PDT
What an idiotic statement - explain how having a yahoo e-mail account is illegal?
by xpatricklee September 22, 2008 8:32 AM PDT
Wookie, you're a moron.

The act of using Yahoo is not illegal you dolt, the act of using Yahoo Mail for Government Purposes without explicit authorization.. is.
by sythara September 22, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
Dude, are you serious?

As opposed to yelling out that something is illega, why don't you actually go out and find a law that was violated by using public email provider.

Don't bother actually, you won't find it.
by Get_Bent September 22, 2008 11:44 AM PDT
Government officials are required to use the government e-mail system when conducting government business -- do you see the commonality here? The idea here is to save all official correspondence as part of the public record. She used a non-government e-mail system to conduct business off-the-record. That is what this whole thing is about.

On a different topic, there's the stupidity of hacking someone's e-mail account. In most states, unauthorized access to a computer system is illegal. Of course, I'm sure that daddy will pull all the strings he can reach to prevent junior from being punished for his deeds.
by newrer September 22, 2008 1:33 PM PDT
I have a problem with a comparison between piano and Gov. Palin for obvious reasons. Gov. Palin's privacy was violated and I've seen nothing to suggest compromise although there is some evidence of displaced personal feelings and emotions which are not relevant to the topic.
by drfrost September 22, 2008 2:22 PM PDT
I work for a state government (not Alaska) and I'm not familiar with any law requiring us to use "official" email channels. While I don't work in the legal department, I believe if such a law existed in my state I would be aware of it (painfully so). Of course, Alaska might be different but I would have to see a reference to such a law before I would believe it.
by Anybee27 September 23, 2008 2:09 AM PDT
??
by cph September 23, 2008 2:15 AM PDT
Why should "they"?
by luckyrob September 23, 2008 4:51 AM PDT
Actually, your all morons. The issue is hacking into personal email which is a felony. The kid will get mounted in jail hopefully by his new roommate, bubba. That is the photo which his dad needs to see. every thing else is a tangent which you waste space talking about.
by the_piano_man September 22, 2008 7:54 AM PDT
Hacking into someone's email account, no matter who they are, is not a wise thing to do.. However, a person in a position of authority, such as the Governor of Alaska using an insecure personal email account for government business is just plain stupid, if not downright illegal and may very well be a national security risk. What was she thinking? And she wants to be in line for the office of President? What a joke. At my job, if I use personal email for work I will get fired. Sounds like her and McBush have the same level of understanding about the internet and computers - next to nothing. Man, I cannot believe this!
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by dragonwithaheadache September 22, 2008 8:07 AM PDT
What proof can you offer that this contained any Alaskan Government information? Please state your source so it can be verified. Secondly every thing I have see so far only personal information was posted to the internet. Web Based email is unsecure at best due to the nature of retreiving passwords. It is a shame that the son of a state rep here in Tennessee would see fit to do this as he was probably put up to it by the democratic party. Please learn how to research and provide sources before posting what amounts to finger pointing.
by YankeePoodle September 22, 2008 8:24 AM PDT
There is some proof already in press that the Governor of Alaska has used here Yahoo account for some of the official business. With aides and the DPS commissioner (in TrooperGate).

When a Abstinance only Republican politician's teen daughter gets pregnant, it is off-limits. But when a Democratic Representative's son hacks into e-mail accounts it is some how Political conspiracy by democrats.

I think the guys political zeal has something to do with break-in, but thats where it is and that is how it should be looked into.
by wookie69 September 22, 2008 8:28 AM PDT
We can tell from the words that you use, that you are bias. Just another "democrap skewed perspective"
by mrgrupp September 22, 2008 8:40 AM PDT
Most work places prohibit using business email for personal use. So someone uses a personal email address. What is wrong with that? Just because someone is elected to an office they immediately lose all rights to a personal life? There is no proof that she ever used her personal email addresses for business purposes. Please cite something from an email she sent showing this abuse. So far there has only been allegations. Nothing more.
by lilmoya47 September 22, 2008 12:23 PM PDT
Reread the story. It was her personal e-mail account. Besides it doesn't matter what account she use r for what reason it still shouldn't be hack into
by skshrews September 22, 2008 4:53 PM PDT
What's "stupid" is suggesting that Yahoo mail is less secure than government email systems without good evidence. Considering that the FBI, Pentagon, Dept. of Interior have all been hacked into at some point suggests otherwise. A poorly chosen password makes any system vulnerable.

In the end, Palin was a victim. Blaming her for what happened is like blaming JFK for riding in an open limousine in Dallas in 1963.
by celticbrewer September 22, 2008 8:12 AM PDT
Oh please, who says government e-mail is any more secure? As soon as it's on the internet, it's just as vulnerable as anything else. The only issue is retention policy, and I wouldn't be surprised if yahoo has their own policy.
In the end, someone hacked her account and viewed her e-mails and that's all we've heard. Translation: there were NO controversial e-mails. She's clean! Suck it up, liberals!
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by CelesteBlueDawn September 22, 2008 8:22 AM PDT
"Translation: there were NO controversial e-mails. She's clean! Suck it up, liberals!"

REAL Translation: Actually there were, "Damage Control" was kicked into high gear though! Suck It Up Wannabees!
by xpatricklee September 22, 2008 8:25 AM PDT
Erm.. coming from a tech background, yes. I can safely say with professional certainty that Government Email is usually more secure then an open browser webmail program.

As well, I'm curious as to what was in her mail box because if it is government related emails, then she should be fired. Its a very serious security leak that defeats every effort to make sensitive materials "secret", and it afflicts you and the vast majority of America unfortunately and there is no known cure...

There is no patch for stupidity...
by sythara September 22, 2008 8:35 AM PDT
Government email is very secure actually. However no level of encryption can ever protect one from stupitidy
by Dreifort September 22, 2008 10:02 AM PDT
like the stupidity of liberals so desperately trying to find ANYthing they can to hold against Sara Palin?

nevermind their own messiah was raised a muslim, confided in a communist and goes out of his way to avoid patriotism. nevermind that, they have more important things to do like pry around in someones personal email. just because THEY didn't hack into it (or illegally view) her email, its okay for them to view her personal info after the fact.

what happened to, if you sell stolen property, you're just as guilty as the one who stole it. liberals pay no attention to laws. either understanding how they work or applying them to their own actions.
by realwirelessman September 22, 2008 8:15 AM PDT
I frequently use yahoo and gmail accounts whenever our corporate mail is down or the recipient is having a hard time receiving. There's nothing illegal about using these services but certainly are laws broken by anyone hacking into a public officials password protected account - the excuses used in the article that it was easy is like saying it's ok to rob someone at a stoplight because they left their car doors unlocked. Expectation of privacy is the main issue here. Palin's expectation was violated.

Not to mention that if the DNC was also involved in the plan we are talking about RICO statutes and others going to jail under the same laws violated.

The fact that the two posters before me blame Palin is unbelievable - who's the next victim they plan to blame? God help them if they find their own credit information stolen - imagine using their logic, it would be their own fault for not protecting their information.

Pathetic!
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by RichC123 September 22, 2008 8:25 AM PDT
How is it that it is illegal to hack into an elected officials email account, while at the same time, it is legal for the government to hack into my account with out my knowledge and needing no warrant?
by xpatricklee September 22, 2008 8:29 AM PDT
To a large extent the internet is like the wild west.. you have to protect yourself because the long arm of the law can take weeks often to give a real response to your distress and by then it can be too late.

You bear part of that risk when going online as much as you may not like it.
by TomPhilo September 22, 2008 8:18 AM PDT
You HAVE to have a separate account for yourself from your government job - thus you are forced to use a 3rd party account. Also, since you have NO control over who sends e-mail to your personal account, it becomes very easy to mix what you are doing where even when you do not want to.
Most of the people making comments (everywhere) about Mrs Palin's use of Yahoo for her PERSONAL stuff also have no clue how it is to live in Alaska. Imagine that your state Capital is at Key West Florida and your 1st major city is at Washington DC - that is the distance between Juneau and Anchorage - oh yea, you can only FLY between the two - no driving. Now are you going to go to DC and make a long distance call to get your e-mail in Key West if you used a local porvider? No, you are going to use a service that is everywhere.
People have NO sense of scale and the problems faced in Alaska. I spent years up there and practices that are taken for granted in the Lower 48 are not there are or just will not work there.
Her account being hacked was not her doing - it was the password recovery feature of Yahoo asking for personal details that only she should know - however with lots of details about her (or anyone) online doing some data mining to guess at the possible (yet contrainsted by Yahoo) answers to the recovery questions is the problem - NOT her.
This use of the recovery feature can be used against ANY Yahoo account if those people answered them like she did.

Tom Philo
http://www.taphilo.com
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by xpatricklee September 22, 2008 8:27 AM PDT
Um.. yeah hi.. its called VPN. It works everywhere which shoots your little argument right out of the water..
by jfpF92 September 22, 2008 8:29 AM PDT
I wonder: How is she going to handle national security issues? A pretty pathetic showing, so far.
by Dreifort September 22, 2008 9:48 AM PDT
The crime for Popcorn Kernell is not so much being a wannabe hacker and trying 10,000s of different words until he got past Palin's forgot password hint.... his crime is for taking the personal information he found and spreading it on the internet or even release it to the public. That's an invasion of privacy.

If I get your SS# and go around telling people what it is - that's a crime. But it's typical of liberals to claim it's their self righteous privledge to get anything they want for free. Because if it's not free, it's capitalism.... and the liberals all know (thanks to left wing propaganda) that capitalism is evil. They don't have a single clue as to what the definition of capitalism is or how it works economically...but they are absolutely positively sure it's evil. Evil because it's not free.
by gloriapoole-RN September 22, 2008 8:24 AM PDT
The problem is not that someone broke the federal laws about cybercrime and it was not Gov Palin. She is as allowed to have private email accounts as any other citizen--she did not waive her Constitutional protections to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures of her 'business'. whether that is business of the state or business of her personal life. The entire story was presented as supposedly an innocuous event when it was and is a crime. Today's news says the FBI searched the apartment of the guy who did it and subpoened his roommates to testify. It is a big deal when anyone's private email is hacked, because the US has always maintained that US citizens have a 'right to privacy' and the cybercrime laws are intended to enforce that. If the attitude of the hosting companies and the email providers is simply 'oh well, the victim should have known better' then email use and the internet will become known as extremely dangerous places for law-abiding citizens to be, and the use of them will dwindle. Email is a form of communication, just as is the US Postal Mail. All citizens know that if you go to a metal mailbox and open it and steal someone else's US mail, it is a federal crime, and it is also so with email. The hosting companies, the security services for computers and the US government have to enforce the right to privacy for email if the service is to continue to be viable and trusted. Sarah Palin did not do wrong, the hacker did. I also suspect that it was politically motivated since the guy who hacked her account is from a Democratic family. I suspect it was intentional sort of like the Watergate of the internet, to find something on her, and i suspect it was approved or known of or suggested by Obama. /s/ Gloria Poole
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by xpatricklee September 22, 2008 8:36 AM PDT
For real? Are you serious? Really?

Have you ever just simply wanted to flex your knowledge.. and see if you could do it?

Have you ever been.... curious what its like to be pirate?
by Dreifort September 22, 2008 9:59 AM PDT
xpatricklee thinks its ok to surf for p0rn on a work computer, but illegal to send private emails using a non-work email.
by drfrost September 22, 2008 2:37 PM PDT
Surely you jest suggesting that Obama had any knowledge of this. PLEASE. This was done by an amateur. If anyone in any sort of position of power was going to have this done, they would not be caught. You probably wouldn't even know they'd been there. And they sure as !$^!@^ wouldn't post evidence of it on the internet. No subtlety whatsoever... This was a college kid who hasn't yet figured out that just because you can doesn't mean that you should.

There's one or two things I did at that age that could have ruined my life. I suspect I'm not in the minority when I say that. I hope this doesn't ruin is life...
by E-Bosen September 23, 2008 9:44 AM PDT
One of the problems Justic Dep. has with Cheney and others in the Bush admin. is the use of private E-mail accounts for offical government business trans. With a private account- it can be controlled by the account owner as to when to keep or delete, sometimes, encrimating file copys. With an offical govn account you must follow the regulation as to record keeping. If you transact offical govn buisiness by E-mail then it must be by the Gov. Net. Something makes me think Gloria Pool should search her inner self as to the biggerty she so proudly displayed by makeing the last two statements of her comment.
E-Bosin
by William Crow September 22, 2008 8:24 AM PDT
Jailtime for the hacker and his cohorts!
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by Technoracle September 23, 2008 1:47 PM PDT
Jail time seems to be your answer for everything?

http://www.cnet.com/community/William+Crow/?tag=mncol;tback

Should Palin go to jail to for failing to secure her email?
by jfpF92 September 22, 2008 8:26 AM PDT
hey Dragon - check the nytimes artical as a source.... She was undoubtably (and enthusiastically - brazenly - and openly I might add) utilizing the email account to skirt government communication regulations. Yea, sure, this punk did bad, (and do YOU have proof that he was 'put up to it by the democratic party' - or are you just posting 'finger-pointing' - it's a pretty outrageous allegation!) but honestly he uncovered scandalous behavior. Pailin should be afraid - being positively amature, she is going to be positively skewered in this election cycle! Actually, it should be fun to watch...

Dragonwithaheadache, Please learn how to research and provide sources before posting what amounts to finger pointing.
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by Dreifort September 22, 2008 9:51 AM PDT
she was skirtting government communication regulations.

email to a fellow politician: "I think that interview he did last week was unfair. That reporter sure was tough on him".

OMG, Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo glad this kid caught Palin skirtting regulations. She just admitted to reading an interview and THEN told a fellow politican about it! OMG, so glad they caught her on that.
by drfrost September 22, 2008 2:49 PM PDT
First, is English your second language because what you wrote is seriously atrocious. Yes, it's not the real point but if you're going to try and communicate with the rest of us, I suggest less jibberish and more content.

Second, being an amateur (yes, that's the correct spelling) is not necessarily a bad thing... especially in the realm of politics. I, for one, am tired of the "professionals."

Finally, I don't see anything wrong with Palin's behavior here. For various reasons we do the same thing in our office, which is state run (but not Alaska).
by Anybee27 September 23, 2008 2:13 AM PDT
Learn to spell, or your own intelligence may be questioned, rightly or wrongly.
by niceguy250 September 22, 2008 8:29 AM PDT
celticbrewer:
This isn't a partisan issue (despite the fact that the kid in question is the son of a dem rep). The issue here is one of awareness. As technology becomes more advanced, the older generation needs to become aware of its pitfalls. This could have just as easily happened to Joe Biden as he does not belong to the nintendo generation either. My friend who works in IT for a university constantly has this problem with the professors who don't understand that you can't use a common word and a number for your password. All I'm saying is that this issue should be looked at as one of security, not of politics. This is simply the media spinning an issue to be political, ignoring the actual issue and, ultimately, a chance to do some good. $0.02 for what it's worth
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by open-mind September 22, 2008 10:09 PM PDT
Palin's password was not weak, and the hacker did not guess her password. The hacker looked up her challenge topics on the internet (not public for most people) and typed educated guesses until he got it right and changed her password.
by Dr_Zinj September 22, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
The point isn't that this young man may have hacked Palin's e-mail. He probably did and should get the slap on the wrist that's coming to him for it. Or maybe not, since this is a grey enough area that it might be considered political speech.

It's political speech because it starkly shows that Gov Palin isn't competent to implement good computer security in her personal life. If she can't do it there, then she sure can't do it in public life, and she definately isn't competent to do it for the entire nation.

The current Administration has been playing massive games with personal versus private e-mail since day one in an effort to deceive and delude American citizens, and to circumvent any attempt by us to ensure that they are acting in an ethical, legal, and moral manner to uphold our goals that we elected them to work toward. Reports coming out of Alaska indicate that Ms. Palin is just as evasive as Bush/Cheney and Co.
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by Dreifort September 22, 2008 9:55 AM PDT
Dr_Zinj, I didn't know that having a masters in computer security and software encryption was a preresquite for being an elected official?
by drfrost September 22, 2008 2:57 PM PDT
You're arguing that it's protected political speech because she's a politician. Therefore she's not due the same freedoms and rights that the rest of us are.... That has to easily be the most ridiculous statement I've read all month...

If you want to argue that she's incompetent then do so. Arguing that the actions of this hacker should be covered under political speech.... just causes you to lose all credibility with me. To be honest I didn't even finish reading your post. There was no point after that remark...
by jrzshor September 22, 2008 4:33 PM PDT
by the that thievery is political speech then assassination is the ultimate in political speech.
by jfpF92 September 22, 2008 8:35 AM PDT
I wonder: How is she going to handle national security issues? A pretty pathetic showing, so far.
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by drfrost September 22, 2008 3:13 PM PDT
While you could argue that computer security was a component of national security, it's a very very small component... even in this day and age. Your implication otherwise demonstrate a fundamental lack of knowledge. It clearly demonstrates that you are drastically out of your element in any sort of political discussion.
by jrzshor September 22, 2008 4:34 PM PDT
hire someone who knows just like everyone else!
by classicride72 September 25, 2008 7:47 PM PDT
The fact that Gov Palin's email was hacked has absolutely nothing to do with her ablity to handle national security issues. Like millions of us she merely failed to develop and use a more secure password. That does not mean she's incompetent any more than the rest of us. And, where is the evidence she used her personal email to conduct govt business? Someone said to use NYTimes as a source. Well, anyone who isn't yet aware that the Times is a left wing liberal newspaper with its own political agenda must have been away from this planet for an extended period of time. There are two separate issues here: Palin's email was hacked and that has happened to millions of others. The other issue is that this story has been morphed into a political witchhunt. Let's stick to the always-present need to use secure passwords and leave politics out of it.
by sonejones September 22, 2008 8:52 AM PDT
After watching this woman in interviews it should be apparent no one needs to try to dig up anything. The more she talks the better she makes the case for the opposition. She's plain dumb.
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by RighteousSoutherner September 22, 2008 8:54 AM PDT
The left wing no doubt sanctioned this move to try to embarrass Palin. It was equally disturbing as that ridiculous Code Pink crowd tried to crash the Republican's convention. Did you see Republicans trying to disturb Democratic convention? No! Moreover, Democrats are so hysterical over Palin and McCain, they will do anything to try to bring them down. Truth is, it's usually the liberals own agenda's that bring them down once it is well known what they are up to--like abortion, same-sex marriages, higher taxes, more big government, local nanny governments. The list goes on and on!

Needless to say, you know all of those classic decadent traits of theirs.
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by Mystigo September 22, 2008 10:42 AM PDT
> Did you see Republicans trying to disturb Democratic convention?

You mean the guys in the pickup truck loaded with guns? Yea. I saw them. What about it?
by heitzler September 22, 2008 12:02 PM PDT
Hello!!! Do you actually follow this stuff? How can you say that "Democrats will do anything to try to bring them down?"

Have you not seen all the lies that the Republican party has put out for public viewing?

"He's a Muslim. He was sworn into office on the Koran. He doesn't say the Pledge of Allegiance. His pastor is an anti-Semite. He's a tool of Louis Farrakhan. He's anti-Israel. His advisers are anti-Israel. He's friends with terrorists. The terrorists want him to win. He's the Antichrist." these are just a few lies told BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY...

You are obviously uninformed and Republicans are the ones that are hysterical. Actually, Dems are, too...but they are just hysterical - LAUGHING - about the Rep VP Candidate...lol.
by RighteousSoutherner September 22, 2008 12:28 PM PDT
For another perfect example of just how vicious and decandent Liberals are, look at SNL's sketch on Palin just this weekend. The skit insinuated that Todd Palin raped his daughter. Just how low down do the scumbags have to go to make their point that they hate Palin and will do anything to ridicule her. I for one, will never watch another episode of the stupid show again. Insulting half of your viewers is just plain dumb, like most liberal initiatives..
by erniecicco September 22, 2008 1:00 PM PDT
You are being sarcastic, right?
by erniecicco September 22, 2008 1:18 PM PDT
Hey, Righteous Dude, riddle me this: How come agnostic, liberal, pinko, gay Massachusetts has a lower divorce rate, which translates to a higher level of family values put into practice, than any other state in the country, particularly the Righteous Southern, family values states?

Oh, and keep in mind that agnostic, liberal, pinko, gay Massachusetts not only puts its money where its mouth is regarding family values, but it is also where a huge proportion of the technology that you are using to spew venom comes from. Of course, the same technology is also being used to spread tolerance of people who disagree or differ from each other, among other, positive things.

Nanny governments? Hmmm...I seem to recall several Republican attempts to put the internet under explicit government control.
by Dreifort September 22, 2008 9:42 AM PDT
Amazing left wing nuts have to use TECHNOLOGY websites to push their propaganda. C|net has a technology related news story and idiots come in here bashing John McCain.

This is like me reading a story on a college website about students protesting republicans because they want to give you freedom -- and then posting a comment bashing the liberal's mom and then using facts I found on a blogg site I found on the 15th page of a Google search. Because I found it on the internet, it MUST be factual.

Moron libs - get off MY internet. It's not yours because Gore didn't invent it.

Oh - and if you're screaming "well McCain claimed to invent the blackberry!!!!" --- apparently McCain's assistant needs a raise for telling a well timed and funny joke that made the media bite on it and waste news space on it. ANYONE who knows more than what Olbermann spews out his nose about McCain will know John McCain doesn't care to even USE modern technology.
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by heitzler September 22, 2008 12:04 PM PDT
"ANYONE who knows more than what Olbermann spews out his nose about McCain will know John McCain doesn't care to even USE modern technology."

Which, in itself is a reason not to vote for him. Our society is technology-driven - or haven't you noticed. So, who's the moron, now?

If our own prospective president doesn't care to use modern technology, how can he deal with any upcoming issues that will actually deal with technology or techno-warfare? Hmmm...kinda makes ya' wonder.
by Dreifort September 22, 2008 12:35 PM PDT
so you rely on technology instead of using your own hands and thought process....

I tihnk they made sci-fi movies about relying TOO much on technology. Whatever the movies were, I'm positive they all ended with technology NOT being the answer.
by zmonster September 22, 2008 10:23 AM PDT
Yeah, right. The person who was smart enough to hack into a Vice Presidential candidate's email is somehow STUPID enough to brag about it using his REAL email address?

Give me a break!! This guy obviously didn't do it. He's just stupidly taking the credit for it.
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by Dreifort September 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT
no one "hacked" into Palin's email as the modern term of hacking has a higher more serious meaning to it.

All this kid did was try 10,000 different words until he got one right. That's not a hacker. That's a kid with too much time and not enough brains to be a hacker.

That is why he took credit for it. Stupid is as stupid does.
by the_piano_man September 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT
Dragonwithaheadache: Here is some info about Palin's email content . . . definitively government business.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1842097,00.html
She used very poor judgment it doesn't matter what political party she belongs to or what political party you or I belong to - it was very poor judgment.

Mrgrupp: the reason for disallowing the use of personal email for business use is obvious: The business should not be represented by an employees personal email - period. That is what will happen. Also it presents a security nightmare for the IT professionals in charge of the business's network. Take a class in information security and you may understand. In this day and age our government communications need to be ultra safe.
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by Dreifort September 22, 2008 10:48 AM PDT
It's a crime to sell stolen property...or even distribute it freely. But if someone obtains information or goods illegaly, its ok for a news outlet (say the NY Times) to distribute this information because as history will prove - they have no regard for personal privacy or moral obligations. Some in the media hold themselves above the law or in a totally different plane were laws don't exist.
by zmonster September 22, 2008 11:01 AM PDT
The right-wing wackos sure are out in full force today.
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by Kwasiowusu September 22, 2008 11:08 AM PDT
@ the_piano_man : "Here is some info about Palin's email content . . . definitively government business"

Groan!
The ObamaNazi Kool Aid drinking vermin strike again.
Preay tell me this: Exactly where does it say in Alaska law or US law that government employees cannot use Yahoo or MSN or any mail system they want?
Are you telling me that Goverment mail sstyems or even snail mail is more secure than web based mail?
Exactly what stops yet another Obama crazy at the US Postal Service from say stealing Gov Palin's mail, like this son of a Democratic Party state legislator did?
It's not the type of mail stupid. Its the CRIME of stealing someone's mail by Obama crazies.
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by chris_d September 22, 2008 11:11 AM PDT
Wow, the authoritarian right sure goes loony when someone spies on them. But if they're spying on everyone else, well, that's necessary because we might be Terrrists (TM). Talk about a double standard!

Well guys, to quote you, "If Gov. Palin isn't doing anything wrong, she has nothing to worry about!"
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by drfrost September 22, 2008 3:26 PM PDT
So... you thought it was wrong before but now that it's happening to someone you don't like, you're going to approve of it on the basis that they deserve it?

You're guilty of the same double standard you're accusing them of.

I'll be honest. I don't like the patriot act because it doesn't have enough oversight. But in general principle, if you're talking to a known terrorist I think we should be listening in whenever possible. What constitutes "known terrorist?" A very good question and something that would need oversight, but I still agree with the general principal. We have no reason to grant the same rights to non-citizens that we do to citizens. And we certainly don't grant any rights of privacy to people that have essentially declared war on us, or to the citizens that are speaking to them. I don't think that's unreasonable.
by Len Bullard September 22, 2008 11:16 AM PDT
Reading the Spy Vs Spy comments here is like standing on the deck of the Titanic helping to load the boats and overhearing two crew members arguing about which of them will take the morning shift in the crow's nest.

1. ANYONE using these free email systems should be aware they are easily cracked. The numbers of business emails I receive daily from gmail accounts makes me want to scream at the staff: THEY HARVEST AND SELL THIS STUFF.

2. For the kids who have grown up thinking they are smart because they Understand The Web, understand this: in the 1980s the forerunners of your little gang studied the Internet long and hard and came to the conclusion that architecturally it was unsafe for secure transactions regardless of the patch work engineering that could be provided. So far, none of you has proven them wrong so let's say most of you are on a ship with 2500 passengers and lifeboats for only 1200.

All they found in Palin's email showed she was clean as a houndstooth. I wonder how many of you could say the same.
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by Dreifort September 22, 2008 12:37 PM PDT
and some moron liberal above said since McCain wasn't hip enough to get on the internet, we shouldn't vote for him.

sad that liberals believe whatever they hear on the internet... damn, there's that word internet again. can't get away from it...like a disease.
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