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February 2, 2008 3:49 PM PST

Ron Paul: I'm the Republican who 'gets' young voters

by Caroline McCarthy
(Credit: Caroline McCarthy/CNET News.com)

NEW YORK--Texas Rep. Ron Paul was the second of four presidential candidates answering questions at the MTV-MySpace "Closing Arguments" event on Saturday evening, and there was probably a whole lot of people tuning in online to the live-streamed event.

Paul and his libertarian leanings have proven hugely popular on the Web; the long-shot Republican candidate actually won MySpace's mock Republican primary. Unfortunately for tech enthusiasts, technology policy wasn't brought up at all; subjects like Net neutrality and online copyright law didn't seem to be hot-button issues among the Gen-Y crowds in the audience.

One question from a Fordham University student asked Paul why he thought young voters were turning out in droves for the Democratic rather than Republican party, and Paul suggested that it's because the other Republican candidates just don't get what's important to the youth voting bloc. He raised as examples the Iraq war, which he does not support, and a shaky economy that has left many students wondering how they'll pay tuition or get a job after graduation.

A live poll conducted through MySpace revealed that 67 percent of respondents indeed thought that Paul had done an adequate job reaching out to young voters.

"Young people on campuses, they're cheering loudly," Paul said as he described the response on campuses to his controversial economic views and opposition to the war in Iraq. "Believe me, they respond very favorably."

But at the end of the "dialogue," Paul committed a bit of a faux-pas when he talked about why his monetary policy has caught on among many members of Generation Y. "Young people understand it because it's not complex," he said. Bad move, congressman.

Caroline McCarthy, a CNET News staff writer, is a downtown Manhattanite happily addicted to social-media tools and restaurant blogs. Her pre-CNET resume includes interning at an IT security firm and brewing cappuccinos. E-mail Caroline.
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Bad move, Congressman?
by compr0 February 2, 2008 4:21 PM PST
What do you mean
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Basically...
by caroline.mccarthy February 2, 2008 4:59 PM PST
...the college students in the audience weren't too happy that Paul had suggested they'd support an issue simply because it was easy to understand. I think he'd really just phrased it the wrong way...
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Faux pas?
by nhidealist February 2, 2008 4:26 PM PST
The CNET article closes by implying ("faux pas") that Ron Paul was insulting young people, saying they understand the economics because they're not complex. The implication seems to be - according to CNET - that young people could not understand a complex issue.

It doesn't sound like an insult to me. He was saying an issue was not complex; and he added that young people get the issue. The context of the whole article was that the audience was young, so this sounds like a candidate saying that the audience understands an issue that also happens to not be complex.

If some awkward phrasing is the worst he does, that's still better than the outright pandering, temper tantrums, and helpless incrementalism shown by the other candidates.
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Children without parents
by Torqued22 February 2, 2008 4:59 PM PST
Right on. Dem other candidates do sound like squabbling children most of the time.
Great explanation!
by kanard7 February 5, 2008 9:10 AM PST
Thanks!
Bad move, Congressman??
by AndyRP2008 February 2, 2008 4:30 PM PST
It could be complex for people like you that like to print money out of thin air. Monetary system is easy, backed 100% by gold or silver. You can only spend what you have and not just print the money and pass the bill to us in a for of TAX.
SEE MONETARY SYSTEM 101.
Go back to collage or just read more.
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Hmmmmmm
by DKrudop February 2, 2008 4:47 PM PST
Or better yet.....go back to COLLEGE, instead of going back to a
collage!
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Bad move?
by Steve13133 February 2, 2008 4:50 PM PST
Economics isn't really hard to understand from a broad vantage point. Just like in your household, if you spend more than you have then you get into deep trouble, and it's no different with Governments, except they can print more money, thereby devaluing every other dollar out there. This is called inflation. It destroys the value of savings as well as the value of paychecks. It hurts the poor and the middle class the worst. This is why Ron Paul wants a return to the gold standard, so the Fed can't print money anytime they want and make us all swallow inflation without a say in the matter. Let's take the example of the Fed bailing out Wall St. investors tgo the tune of $100 billion. THose investors made a real bad investment in sub-prime mortgages. They lose their shirts and the Fed gives them $100 billion so they can go on making bad investments, except that this money causes each old dollar out there to be worth that much less. So, we have a temporary investing bubble worth $100 billion for the Wall St. brokers, at the expense of every laborer, saver, and retired person on a fixed income (a fixed income that is now worth less in our economy). How about government deficits? They just have the Fed printing presses going into overdrive. The result is the same...more inflation. How about a hard fact now. Like the Federal Reserve is no more a part of our government than Federal Express. They are a private banking cartel that has been given permission to manipulate the value of our money. Do I have to ask what the main purpose of a business is? Right, to make money. What do you think the Fed does for itself. Do you believe that those bankers are do-gooders working for the prosperity of the nation or themselves? Its funny how the Federal Reserve Act and the Income Tax Act were instituted about the same time. After all, the interest on the Federal Deficit has to be paid to those private bankers of the Federal Reserve. Get rid of the Fed and you effectively get rid of inflation and government deficits. After all, if the politicians took responsibiity to We the People for the inflation tax, they'd be voted out of office. No, in actuality, they'd be run out of office the first time they tried to raise taxes to cover their deficits!
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Copy and Paste?
by Torqued22 February 2, 2008 5:08 PM PST
Amen.

So well written you should save your comment piece to be re-written on the emails of legislators email inboxes.
Bad Move?
by Torqued22 February 2, 2008 4:56 PM PST
Nothing in Ron Paul's MTV was a bad move. I watched the whole thing.

Ron Paul owns.
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A raw deal.
by anscfoster February 2, 2008 5:41 PM PST
This is what I don't understand. Leaders in news, world leaders in news, no longer producing news. We get opinion pieces, one guy's thoughts, slanted views, and blatant disregard for any thing factual, anything of any importance.

Take for example, this article you just read. The author took time to tell us what was not said, tech stuff, and what he/she thought was the impression that would be taken from Paul's "simple" comment.

There is no substanance, no content, no factual information, no decion making tools, no news. All we get from this, like most major news networks sputterings is a silly little opinion based on a silly little thought, that has no relevancy anywhere in the world.

Here is the sad part. The "mistake" that Cnet reports on here wasn't a concern brought about by anyone. No indivudal or group of individuals became upset, causing the news to report on an actual event. Nothing happened, other than a news outlet reporting on what they percieved to be something that could be, in the future, a problem. SO - they write it up, give their thoughts, and the people who are closest to Ron Paul read it and laugh.

This is how I see it. These "reporters" whatch what is being said, and they really don't udnerstand. Perhaps they don't have the capacity. Then they say, hmmmm...."what can we write that'll be interesting." Well, the youth are educated and willing to listen to facts, rational information, and the truth. We don;t need slanted entertainment and jazzed up reality becuase we are capable and willing to deal with the harsh reality the older generations has borne us into. WE DON'T WANT TO IGNORE THIS MESS ANYMORE.

Those who aren't following Paul closely read this and think, OOOOOHHHHH - those paul supporters are gonna get madd now!

That couldn't be any further from the truth. The truth is, the matter is simple. Very simple. And perhaps, that is why we get it. I don't udnerstand, can't understand, for the life of me - why people take their lives, thoughts, beliefs, and futures from crap reporters, bloggers, and journalists that create reality with the strike of a key.

I want, and I wish more people would demand, REAL, actual events. I want to open the paper, type in an adress, switch on the TV and see, read, and hear what is actually happening in the world. The actual events. Give me a description of our actual current events, the words of a man's speech, the condition of economy, the future of our children.

Give it to me, without a cherry on top, without the whip cream, without the ********, and without the opinions.

News becomes news nowadays when someone writes it up. It actually seems as if the Television reporters opinion becomes Americans opinion. That's sad.

ANYONE who approaches the telivision or mainstream media opinion becomes a black sheep, an outcast, a hidous cave dwelling bastard.

I don't think Ron Paul will win, for many of the various reasons I have provided here. What is even worse? MOST people will never know that we came SO close to getting out of this mess.

But - MOST people don't know he is running. They really don't know what the hell he is talking about. Maybe it is too simple.

MOST people will see his name for the first time when they go to the ballot box. MOST people don't read anything other than mainstream, haven't seen a legitimate history book in years, or really just can't grasp things that are this "simple."

We are screwed, big time. We did it to ourselves, with the help of nonsense writers and opinion piece fecal spewers like the author of this piece.

Save yourself, read a book.
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"what's REALLY going on"
by axisOFgood February 2, 2008 6:01 PM PST
How's THIS for a nice six-minute description of how our EMPIRE is "winning over hearts and minds"...??

http://www.btlonline.org/hallinan020108.ram

How do all the MacInsane, Hit**ry, Huckaliar, Romniac, and B. Hussein Osama types get away with talking about "leaving with honor"...!!! NONE of them intend to do anything but keep us entangled, and going bankrupt, in this bloody mess FOREVER. It is now basically "Ron Paul or that's all" for our Nation.....
News monkeys do it again
by scottpett February 2, 2008 8:16 PM PST
"You don?t have to drive to the local zoo,
You can watch all the monkeys on the (M)TV news,
talking in circles hopin? no one?s seen,
The half-ton gorilla in the middle of the screen"

"Ron Paul Goes to the Zoo"
www.youtube.com/scotto2008
from The Declaration
by 42istheanswer February 3, 2008 2:36 PM PST
of Independence...

"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government".

The time may not be right now, as you have stated. , but it is coming.

Our current system will probably collapse. What rises out of the dust remains to be seen. Who will chose the outcome?
by cindyf9 October 26, 2008 11:30 PM PDT
FOR YOU ,PLEASE!

To all concerned Americans,
I am asking you to please go to www.RonPaul2008.com or just www.google.com and type in ?Ron Paul?.
You have more than two choices for president.We do not have to settle for what the government run media tells us we have to vote for.
Please ,you owe it to yourselves to get all the information on who he is before election day. Time is running out and America can not afford another four years of poor management. Ron Paul in my mind is the only hope we have for saving America.
We owe it to our selves to listen to what this intellegant, sincere man has to say.
You can also see videos of him speaking on www.YouTube.com .His financial advisor is Peter Schiff, another extremely smart man who knows his stuff on the economy.
We need to stand up for ourselves and stop letting the media tell us who is going to win or who we have to vote for . I do not know about you but I am tired of all the bickering and waste of time between some of the other candidates. Dr. Ron Paul makes no time for this. I am not telling you who you should vote for I am just saying you need to be aware of all the candidates not just the ones they want us to hear about. Tell your in and out of state friends and relatives to check it out also.
If you do not have a computer you can go to a library or some one you know who does.
Make the informed choice on who you want for president ,don?t just pick one because you think you have no other choice.
He speaks the truth, a straight talking politician for once, hard to fathem I know. Join with me and countless others who enjoy listening to him speak.
It?s not too late!
Thank You for your time.
WWW.RONPAUL2008.COM
Sincerely,
Cindyf9
RON PAUL IN 2008
by susieburger February 2, 2008 6:03 PM PST
Maybe he said they would understand because it really is not complex. Dont spend what you dont have. Seems pretty easy does it not. Maybe if you thought about what the man says you to could understand.
The man speaks the truth he speaks from the heart, and he talks to you "the people". Maybe that's why people call him a kook.Because he speaks the truth.
Bob Brereton
Eatontown N.J
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He his a racist kook
by The_Decider February 3, 2008 9:54 AM PST
That is why no one votes for him.
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Ron Paul in 2008
by Kipp661 February 3, 2008 10:37 AM PST
Amen to that, Truth tastes funny to people that have never heard it. These people want to continue being lied too. After a certain point the lies don't hold up. We have reached that point but these people with their head in the sand do not realize that. The dollar is imploding. Inflation is starting to rear its ugly head as it has in the many 3rd world nations, Brazil, Argentina, Russia,Rowanda where they were suffering a 5000 % inflation rate mopping out the middle class and those that thought they were wealthy. If a loaf of bread cost you $1.00 at the start of the year and costs you $5000.00 at the end of the year, that will make a poor man out of a multimillionare real quick. Smarten up people. Vote for Ron Paul.
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RON PAUL IN 2008
by susieburger February 2, 2008 6:07 PM PST
Dont look to far into it sir. He spoke like a man concerned about our youth, our elderly, and our nation.
It is not about the media it is about us. " We the People".
Stand and be counted it is your future and my childrens. The youth can make a huge difference in the election. Please research and make a wise choice.
Susanne Brereton
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Ron Rules
by susieburger February 2, 2008 6:10 PM PST
perfectly said.
Go Ron Paul
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Please explain "Bad Move." What Bad Move?
by jazzygemini February 2, 2008 6:10 PM PST
Honestly, I'm tired of these news reporters always throwing in terms like "Bad Move" or "Long Shot" and many other "Sabatoging comments." And then, to make things worse, "you don't explain yourself." What do you mean by "Bad Move - Congressman?"
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great comment
by susieburger February 2, 2008 6:13 PM PST
Well said.
A vote for Ron Paul is a step in the awakening.
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WE THE PEOPLE
by susieburger February 2, 2008 6:14 PM PST
STAND UP BE COUNTED AND BOYCOTT THE MEDIA SPONSORS
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Ron Paul Right On!
by sandyonks February 2, 2008 6:23 PM PST
We get it. All candidates talk change. RON PAUL WALKS CHANGE! RON PAUL believes in the American people. All other candidates believe in taking our money from us. When the candidates say "we're going to give you health care, education, etc." They mean we're going to take your money and make you slaves to big government.

RON PAUL STANDS FOR FREEDOM
RON PAUL STANDS FOR STRONG MONEY AND ECONOMICS
RON PAUL STANDS FOR YOU KEEPING YOUR MONEY.

RON PAUL REVOLUTION!
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by cindyf9 October 26, 2008 11:27 PM PDT
Awesome Explanation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not Complex
by Sparky650 February 2, 2008 7:07 PM PST
It is not complex to realize that this Country spends much more than it takes in. It has been known for decades that this Country wastes more than they should. He is basically saying that all these old bureaucrats and money spinners don't realize or get it but you guys do. It is not that complex.
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unfortunately for tech enthusiasts...
by sas473 February 2, 2008 7:36 PM PST
"Unfortunately for tech enthusiasts, technology policy wasn't brought up at all; subjects like Net neutrality and online copyright law didn't seem to be hot-button issues among the Gen-Y crowds in the audience."

he wsn't directly asked any questions however he stated he's against restrictions on the internet and he's also against the government reading your emails

MTV's website has a clip with exactly that part I'm talking about along with the other 3 candidates participating:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1580847/20080202/id_0.jhtml
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policies address these issues
by spkrman6 February 3, 2008 6:51 PM PST
It does not take a great deal of deductive reasoning to understand how a sound money policy and a strong economy will take care of issues like net neutrality and intellectual property rights. It is called "free enterprise", it's how America used to do business back when we had prosperity. By drawing attention to a fabricated oversight, media once again attempts to slant the message and distract attention from the real point. Go Dr. Paul!
Bad Move
by Herbi Rihiratu February 2, 2008 8:00 PM PST
You're not getting this. He meant that its ironic that young people
are getting this more than the media and other presidential
candidates. Ron Paul is right to mentioned that. Young people
should not be timid to understand the monetary policy because :
1. It is not complex and it is the most important issue facing US.
2. The media and other candidates will not address this
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Are you serious?
by tropicangela February 2, 2008 8:03 PM PST
Bad move? Are you really going to twist and turn what he said around Ms. McCarthy? He was specifically asked a question about the younger generation, and it's true that his monetary policy is not complex. What is with the quotation marks throughout this "opinion piece?" This piece has bias written all over it. Should not even be posted in a NEWS section... terrible journalism.
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If you didn't notice
by The_Decider February 3, 2008 9:56 AM PST
It is not the news section.

It is a weblog. Therefore it is an opinion piece.
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quotes?
by sas473 February 2, 2008 8:12 PM PST
sometimes to report in news it'd be better to use direct quotes rather then your opinions to slant readers to ideas which may not be true

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlYig6RpH6M

2:33 seconds into that video is the question on the youth vote
3:30 is when Ron Paul starts to reply

you wanna be a news person maybe you should watch it and quote that part unless you want to sound like an idiot :)
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idiot
by sas473 February 2, 2008 8:15 PM PST
idiot - person lacking professional skill
IT WASN'T AN INSULT.. IT WAS A COMPLIMENT
by knight4paul February 2, 2008 8:15 PM PST
Good Lord, leave it to the young folks to have spell out everything. "We understand it because it's not complicated." Precisely!! It's not! The older generations just assume it is, we actually take the time to study it, and he's right, it's not complicated!! One of the things that unites us, is that some older folks do get it, and are happy to see we get it too. NOW of course not everyone does, but those of us who care to "know" learn the system. MOST REPORTS I'VE SEEN ON THIS SAY : "I took it as a compliment." "I didn't think he was insulting us." I wasn't insulted at all. In fact, I smiled when he said it.
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You're Very Educated
by henisoomati February 2, 2008 8:15 PM PST
First of all he is a Representative, not a Congressman. Secondly, thank you! It is great that young people are getting to see media bias at work. I hope they will not forget it in the future.
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They are all congressmen.
by ralfthedog February 3, 2008 8:55 AM PST
From what I understand the Congress is the House of Representatives + the senate
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