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by Caroline McCarthy
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Facebook board member Marc Andreessen, who just launched a new venture fund, said in an interview with Reuters (published Monday) that he expects the company's revenue to be in excess of $500 million in 2009, and that in five years it'll be well into the billions.

"Generally speaking, people who are selling their stock in Facebook now are making a mistake," he told Reuters regarding the fact that since an initial public offering is still a ways off, Facebook is permitting some employee stock sales to Digital Sky Technologies, the Russian firm that invested $200 million in the site in May. Andreessen himself is not a personal investor in Facebook, and said that "I probably could have if I had tried hard but I didn't."

If Facebook worked the ad-sales front a bit harder, Andreessen added in the interview, revenue could already be over a billion.

But Facebook has never taken kindly to traditional display advertisements, choosing instead to experiment with "engagement ads" integrated into the social-networking experience--a product it may potentially extend into Facebook Connect's participating sites, which now number over 10,000.

Additionally, Facebook has been working toward an alternative revenue stream with its "credits" system, a virtual currency that for now is restricted to the company's in-house "Gifts" application. Sometime in the not-so-distant future, the Facebook currency system will be made available to developers using the social network's API, which could produce a significant new source of revenue for Facebook as it takes a cut of transactions.

Andreessen--the Netscape founder and Silicon Valley mainstay whose current projects include social-network builder Ning--has been on Facebook's board for just over a year. He joined at the personal request of CEO Mark Zuckerberg, who said at the time that "Marc is an industry leader, and we're fortunate to have him join our board."

Caroline McCarthy, a CNET News staff writer, is a downtown Manhattanite happily addicted to social-media tools and restaurant blogs. Her pre-CNET resume includes interning at an IT security firm and brewing cappuccinos. E-mail Caroline.
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by kushka53 July 6, 2009 12:34 PM PDT
HUGELY overinflated site--I'm a reporter that with a little digging found loads of duplicate and fake accounts. Someone on this beat ought to really scrutinize the claims of FB's management as there are a lot less people on this site than they claim...
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by MoistFist July 6, 2009 12:56 PM PDT
congrats Caroline,
getting front page news status on google news page.
~Brandon C
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by aSiriusTHoTH July 6, 2009 1:05 PM PDT
Hype you very much. If Facebook could bring in $500,000,000 in 09' they could of did this in 08'. Why didn't they? BECAUSE THEY CAN'T.
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by Mr. Dee July 6, 2009 1:48 PM PDT
I have been using Facebook more often recently. The popularity just won't let up. I think every single person I know is now on it. I like the new unique User name ID too.
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by RompStar_420 July 6, 2009 1:51 PM PDT
I am not using Face Book, lol :- ) I have a big problem with their Terms.

This is from 2.1 under Terms: (7/6/2009 1:50PM)

For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos ("IP content"), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook ("IP License"). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account (except to the extent your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it).
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by dev2k July 6, 2009 2:25 PM PDT
Does anyone EVER click on any of those ads????

How is it possible they could make that much?

[Cue Twilight Zone music...]
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by grossj144 July 6, 2009 7:32 PM PDT
They don't appear to charge by the click, at least not strictly speaking. It seems that they charge in a way that is similar to how networks charge...based on viewers. Add in the ability to comment on the ads and you get near real time access to market data. That probably boosts the amount that they can charge for certain ads.
by jesmmifs July 7, 2009 2:03 AM PDT
Well I have used Facebook as part of my marketing plan, and FB users do click on ads. I received all the traffic I payed for. I don't know why people are finding it so difficult to believe that Facebook is earning all these millions in revenue.
by kgsbca July 6, 2009 3:17 PM PDT
That sounds impressive at face value, but given that they have about 200 million registered users, it means they only get about $2.50 per user per year. Kind of tough to scale that business. Unless they can think of a way to increase the amount of revenue per user, their chances for success are limited.
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by erges10 July 6, 2009 5:01 PM PDT
The inflation of the FB valuation is comparable to Andreessens ego...he has failed more than he has won. This is PR, and I dont believe the hype.
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by grossj144 July 6, 2009 7:33 PM PDT
Edison failed far more often than he succeeded. He probably had a big ego, too.
by edno29 July 6, 2009 7:22 PM PDT
these days they would place a text add
in your underpants if they could!
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by MarkjMayhew July 7, 2009 12:09 AM PDT
Mark Zuckerberg is my God
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by jonathan0766 July 7, 2009 7:55 AM PDT
It's not exactly difficult to predict that Facebook's currency effort will fail miserably. They're going down a path several companies before them have tried and flunked at, and they're going to fail at it for similar reasons. I'm willing to bet that Facebook users don't need or want another PayPal, much less their social networking site acting as one. Revenue generation has to be formulated to match the nature of the business, the currency approach is Facebook attempting to force a revenue outcome by picking an approach (PayPal) that does well online. Amazon.com tried that, woops. Amazon thought they could do auctions too, made tons of sense right? It's all ecommerce so why not, woops. It's the most common mistake sites like Facebook make (tons of audience, throw a bunch of things against the wall, surely one of them will stick).

18 months from now there will be write-ups that mention, barely in passing, the failed currency attempt. Facebook will quietly scale it down in that time. Facebook will have to come up with a new form of revenue generation that optimizes what its network does well, rather than just thinking they can clone other successful efforts because they have 200m users.
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by pkrter July 10, 2009 12:40 PM PDT
Maybe they can afford to hire the folks being let go at MySpace. That would give me one more reason to like Facebook.
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by Alex_SV July 10, 2009 7:05 PM PDT
$500 revenue ... hmm ... now I am curious about FB's gross profit margin.
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