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April 24, 2009 4:00 AM PDT

Why do young techies want to be werewolves?

by Caroline McCarthy

SEBASTOPOL, Calif.--By day, Silicon Valley's young elite were scribbling frenetically on whiteboards in the conference rooms at O'Reilly Media's corporate complex here, with executives and engineers from normally competing companies working together to tackle problems from open-standard implementation to social-network privacy. But in the evening, their dark sides emerged.

The occasion was Social Web FooCamp held here last weekend, a relatively new offshoot of the annual invite-only "unconference" that Tim O'Reilly started throwing in 2003. And the after-hours activity was Werewolf, a strategy game that has been a craze among the Web 2.0 crowd for several years running now. For some of the unconference's more hard-core players, rounds of Werewolf lasted well past 3 a.m.

The lawn of tents at Social Web FooCamp last weekend, home to many a game of 'Werewolf.'

(Credit: Caroline McCarthy/CNET News)

Nobody quite agrees on how this trend began. Some say it caught hold among the Bay Area set when some British software developers introduced it to them at the Future of Web Apps conference in London in 2007, and others point to gaming experts like Jane McGonigal of AvantGame, who have studied Werewolf tactics for much longer. Either way, some in the tech industry see it as just too insidery.

"I'm not really into it," said one engineer from the Santa Monica, Calif.-based MySpace, shrugging as he walked past the glass-walled conference room in which two games of Werewolf were going on simultaneously. "It's a Valley thing. We don't really play it in L.A."

Indeed, jumping on the Werewolf bandwagon--a club that counts Digg founder Kevin Rose, Facebook evangelist Dave Morin, and ubiquitous wine guru Gary Vaynerchuk as devoted members--seems to be as complex as getting immersed in the fandom of a TV show like "Heroes" or "Lost." Similar to a game known as Mafia, the game pits a circle of players against one another as the uninformed villagers attempt to discover which among them have been secretly selected as killer werewolves who pick off the villagers one by one in a night phase when all villagers' eyes are closed. In the day phase, the entire group votes to kill a player whom they suspect to be a werewolf.

The anti-team-builder
The catch is that the villagers, who constitute a majority of the players, have no idea who else is a villager and who is a werewolf, and the individual werewolves will do whatever they can to conceal their intentions. If the usual quasi-leisure activity at a corporate retreat is a team-building game, then Werewolf is an anti-team-builder. An expert player must be skilled in deception and misinformation, in the tactics of persuasion, and in not falling prey to others' arguments.

"It's kind of like poker without cards," said Kevin Slavin, managing director of the New York game development firm Area/Code. "It relies on asymmetric information, it relies on some people having different types of information than others, people having information that only they know, and mentally it's about kind of the interplay between information and social dynamics."

But there are plenty of strategy games out there. Why, specifically, is it this one that's captured the imaginations of the geek set?

"If you think about what the fundamental skills in play in something like Werewolf are, they have to do with persuasion and communication. For entrepreneurs in particular, this is kind of a lot of the currency of their everyday lives."
--Kevin Slavin, managing director, Area/Code

"It's very elegant...(which) means it generates a lot of interesting behavior with very simple rules, or very few rules," said Area/Code creative director Frank Lantz, who added that a digital version of Werewolf has turned into a huge craze on a popular message board for poker enthusiasts. "That's one thing that appeals to the technology crowd, (which) is attuned to this quality of emergent behavior and elegant systems, that unfolds into all kinds of complicated behavior from a very simple set of rules."

"I certainly came into it first, pretty much, because of the Ruby on Rails conference and that kind of tech group," said James Cox, the developer who has most recently been in the news for having sold the @cnnbrk Twitter account to CNN. "People who come to Ruby as a language, (are) people who find those kinds of games and puzzles interesting."

And it does get complex. "If the villagers are allowed to keep a pencil and paper, they always win. If they are allowed to get up and switch seats, like, if every round you get up and you move, then the villagers also always win," said Max Ventilla, the ex-Googler who just launched social search start-up Aardvark, and who was one of Social Web FooCamp's avid Werewolf players.

"The way that the werewolves win is that one, they know what's going on so they have more information, and two, they are able to convince the townspeople who don't have info to basically forget about everything they've heard," Ventilla explained. "When you vote with your gut you're extremely swayed by the person sitting next to you. Each werewolf is trying to convince the villager to their right or left that the two of them are in it against everybody else."

So the setup of Werewolf--the simple structure leading to complex interactions, the puzzle-solving nature of it--has major geek appeal. But for young entrepreneurs, it also exercises a valuable skill set. It can take the same mastery of persuasion to convince the person sitting next to you that you aren't a werewolf that it does to talk a boardroom of venture capitalists into that crucial Series A investment round.

Werewolf game

This Flickr user's first exposure to the Werewolf game. Among the photo's tags is FooCamp06.

(Credit: Flicker member Buster McLeod)

"If you think about what the fundamental skills in play in something like Werewolf are, they have to do with persuasion and communication. For entrepreneurs in particular, this is kind of a lot of the currency of their everyday lives," Slavin said. "Bringing the types of interactions that are most typical in those scenarios...and turning them into something useless, something that only has social currency instead of live-or-die consequences for the company, is (fun) in the same way that it's fun to bankrupt your friends in Monopoly, not in real life."

"Those are incredibly important lessons for an entrepreneur," Ventilla said. "You're constantly reminded of just how much you need to do until you're really top-notch at those things."

As clubby and insidery as Werewolf may seem, the FooCamp players last weekend were actively seeking new recruits. In fact, James Cox said, they can make it much more exciting. "(Newbies are) really unpredictable, so they can really change the way the game works," Cox said. "You can't pick who they are and what they do...when you play with the same people for a long time, you get to know them really well and can predict werewolves."

But from the sidelines, the casual onlooker might wonder if the popularity of Werewolf is actually a glimpse at a thread of treachery running through Silicon Valley's hyper-competitive culture, particularly at an event like FooCamp where cooperation and idea-swapping rule the daylight hours.

"When ethical considerations are put on hold, you see how people perform in that sense...it's tempting to assign meaning to that," Area/Code's Kevin Slavin said. "I have seen some people lie so convincingly that it's tempting to assign meaning to that with regards to their actual character, and I think that it would be a classic mistake, and it may be in fact the very fact that this has no consequences that allows them to lie so persuasively."

"If it actually lined up one to one in terms of how one played Werewolf and how their interactions played out in the real world," Slavin continued, "we'd end up with some very scary conclusions."

Caroline McCarthy, a CNET News staff writer, is a downtown Manhattanite happily addicted to social-media tools and restaurant blogs. Her pre-CNET resume includes interning at an IT security firm and brewing cappuccinos. E-mail Caroline.
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by jbaisden April 24, 2009 6:26 AM PDT
Not to be negative, but I fail to see how this game differs even slightly with Mofia. In fact, it seems that mofia has more factors involved that would make it a more fun game, such as the addition of the police officer whom can pick a person each round to find out whether or not their the werewolf. The presumption is that there is a single person that moderates the game and adds story to it depending on what happens. It can become quite hilarious.
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by OttoDyeDacked April 27, 2009 12:09 PM PDT
Werewolf has dozens of roles like that, too. The Seer is the role in Werewolf that is similar to the Police Officer. The games are nearly identical, just with different themes.
by jkohut April 24, 2009 6:32 AM PDT
"The way that the werewolves win is that one, they know what's going on so they have more information, and two, they are able to convince the townspeople who don't have info to basically forget about everything they've heard," Ventilla explained. "When you vote with your gut you're extremely swayed by the person sitting next to you. Each werewolf is trying to convince the villager to their right or left that the two of them are in it against everybody else."

This almost sounds like you are talking about politics(I am going to go out on a limb and suggest Rpublican politics ala Carl Rove), not a gaming scenario. Luckily enough, the most recent election allows "the villagers" to have a pencil and paper (the internet) and to get up and "walk around" (the internet) and think for themselves. Maybe playing "Werewolves" will continue to make people thing for themselves.
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by Len Bullard April 24, 2009 6:47 AM PDT
There is a level of ignorance to this kind of game behavior that speaks to what is wrong in the Internet markets and in the Internet development community. O'Reilly should be ashamed. "this quality of emergent behavior and elegant systems, that unfolds into all kinds of complicated behavior from a very simple set of rules" is a way of saying, "if we put three child predators in a school system, they can use their simple positions and basic goals to damage lives in very complex ways that won't be undone".

IOW, it's BS talk from amateurs on topics of which they know so little as to be laughable but the press takes such talks seriously because they know so little as to be incompetent.

My advice: if the guy in the cube next to you is playing "werewolf", at the next full moon beat his computer into small pieces with a silver handled stick. Let him keep score with a pencil and paper. If someone in your business circle believes this is the kind of experience they need to do business with you, dump their products, dump the relationship, and be sure to inform the Better Business Bureau.
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by viper396 April 24, 2009 1:40 PM PDT
Wow, you are a complete @ss. People are just blow off steam and having a little social fun and all you can do is act like some arrogant prick who's better then everyone else. Must be lonely being you.
by Len Bullard April 25, 2009 12:46 AM PDT
It's creepy. If that's fun, that's creepy too.
by mrorie April 27, 2009 6:20 PM PDT
Overreact much? I'm sure you're a pleasure to do business with yourself...
by danielbrashler April 24, 2009 7:31 AM PDT
I've assisted an internet-based game company called Looney Labs with demonstrating this game at conventions for several years. It is very popular with "geek" crowds, because it's socially interactive within an artificial structure. The company has tons of other excellent games, but this is the one that 14-18 yr olds play literally through the night. It presents social interactions as a puzzle to be solved, and for techies -- if it's a puzzle, they're in, and for adolescents, anything that puts a clear but frangible set of rules onto social interactions is also a hit. http://wunderland.com/LooneyLabs/Werewolf/
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by ebrandel April 24, 2009 7:59 AM PDT
One thing I'm missing: how does the werewolf kill someone during the night mode without moving or alerting the people around him that he's the werewolf? If you close your eyes, you can still hear the movement of people around you.
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by ralfthedog April 24, 2009 12:53 PM PDT
Just a guess, I think the wolf points to the person who they want to kill and the game master tells that person they are dead.
by ctbcctbc April 24, 2009 8:26 AM PDT
@ebrandel usually there's a moderator who's "awake" at night as well. At night the werewolf (or mafia man, as I've learned it) points to a victim. During the day, the moderator announces who died.

I've played mafia for years, since I was a kid. The Wikipedia article for mafia shows some interesting variations that you may want to play as an adult (or kid, for that matter).
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by knowles2 April 24, 2009 9:09 AM PDT
Sound like good fun game to play at end of the day at conferences and let your hair down after a hard day of interrogating fellow players and cooperate espionage and learning new skills and coming up with new ideas.

I remember playing something similar when I went on a camping trip while at school once, cannot remember exactly what we played but I remember it was incredible fun to play and got me talking to the other kids from all the other schools there, which is unusal considering how shy I am normally.

These types of games are just perfect for breaking down barriers an getting people talking to each other and trading ideas and secretes.

I wonder if players traded company secrets in return for a name of a werewolf or the villagers.
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by Mergatroid Mania April 24, 2009 10:56 AM PDT
Wow. I can really think of about a billion things I'd rather do than play a game like this (like getting a tooth pulled).

These people really don't have anything better to do?
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by viper396 April 24, 2009 1:59 PM PDT
Funny how you took time out from your assumedly busy life doing a "billion things" to posts rhetorical and meaningless comments here. {thumbs up}, you're a winner.
by LuvThatCO2 April 24, 2009 10:57 AM PDT
So... they're playing Vampire the Masquarade at corporate conferences now?

I'll stick to dungeon crawling, thanks.
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by Vurk April 26, 2009 2:06 PM PDT
Actually, no. Werewolf is a social party game that predates Vampire, Werewolf and all of White Wolf's "World of Darkness" games.
It requires very little to play; one set of rules(on one sheet of paper), some cards and thats about it.

Do *you* play Dungeons and Dragons at *your* corporate conferences?
(If so, which edition? 1st, 1st and a half, 2nd, 2nd a half, 3rd, 3.5 or 4th?)
by TheStairMaster April 24, 2009 1:43 PM PDT
I agree with some of the people up top, this game is pretty much a simplified Mafia.

Leave it to tech engineers to tweak something so that they can call it theirs...
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by fidomccokefiend April 24, 2009 2:45 PM PDT
"a club that counts Digg founder Kevin Rose, Facebook evangelist Dave Morin, and ubiquitous wine guru Gary Vaynerchuk as devoted members"

Wow, it MUST be cool then. What a bunch of self important D Bags. Can I tweet during gameplay?
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by gsigas April 24, 2009 2:54 PM PDT
It sounds like an interesting game. And as a villager you would be learning useful skills in persuading others not to kill you and in detecting betrayers/liars but as a werewolf you are learning how to be a better liar and betrayer. So if you are really good at being a villager that is great, but if you are really good at being a werewolf that is disturbing.
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by cvaldes1831 April 24, 2009 3:04 PM PDT
After seeing Kate Beckinsale in a leather catsuit in "Underworld" I decided that I'd rather be a vampire.

But that's just me...
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by Henzapper April 24, 2009 3:52 PM PDT
Wait, so is this basically Mafia without the police (or in some cases, the doctor)? Well, still sounds like fun, though I've never heard of a game going beyond a few hours. These must be giant crowds.
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by Floydian68 April 24, 2009 4:14 PM PDT
I play at werewolflive.com and find it to be different from mafia only in the flavoring. It does actually FEEL different though when I play there as opposed to other mafia sites.
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by yt9ikh April 25, 2009 2:18 AM PDT
I don't think of the people involved in MySpace, Rails, or Facebook as "high tech entrepeneurs"; while popular, those applications are about marketing and fashion, not technology.
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by JacobDavenport April 26, 2009 7:48 AM PDT
Soon they will all be playing on the iPhone version of Werewolf. (http://www.koryheath.com/werewolf)

And I disagree that this game is about salesmanship and persuasion. The game is about lying and detecting lying. I've been playing since 1997, when the game was renamed from Mafia, and my group has become very good at detecting liars, and at lying.
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by srblack1167 April 26, 2009 8:04 AM PDT
Okay,

Maffia and Werewolf play by the same rules set. 3 character types: Killers, Mob, & Informed person. Rule: Killers kill in secret, Mob kills a suspect, Informed person secretly gets a clue each turn.

The theme is changed to a Science Fiction theme that catches the attention of "geekdom" that playing cops'n'murderes doesn't. There is a "Seer" that has a "vision" every night - instead of a Cop/Doctor/Detective that uncovers clues. And you've already been introduced to the Werewolves and Villigers above.

Due to theme differences, the varriants to the Wereolf and Maffia games don't always transpose so nicely, though.

Now, for those that play both games there is an element of social dynamics that change when playing personas. First, the player-type that would be attracted to the Werewolf theme would be more of the Science Fiction "geek" than the spy-fan "geek". These differing archetypes of players bring different skill-sets to the game. Then, there is the "role" that one is put into. It gives players a persona to portray for the 20-200 min that the game lasts where they are someone else. Because of these differences, the games end up having a different feel, flavor, and end-product that may have different appeals.
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by srblack1167 April 26, 2009 8:47 AM PDT
I'm a gamer geek. I'll play just about any game at least once. I'm also a Techie, if that matters any.

Werewolf is one that struck my fancy and I became an instant fand. However, I only play it at conventions. I don't have the sheer number of people in my social circle at home to run this game (8-15 ppl for the Looney Labs version).

Every night when the games start I'm there, and I become so emmersed that 5+ hours go by without even thinking about what time it is.

I'm not a good liar. Frankly I suck at it outside of this game. However, I am a good actor. When I get the Werewolf card it takes me about the first 'day' to build up the resolve to lie regarding the question "are you a Werewolf?" After that first round, the rest of the game - for me - is played much like any other game (I look for information). However, instead of looking for the Werewolf, I'm trying to spy out who the Seer is. I have a smaller set of allies, and even smaller set of prey. I am also seeking to limit public information, because the more the village knows about eachother the more likely I'm a target. My night-kills are focused at the villagers that have too much information and share too much with the other people. So, as a werewolf, I seek to limit information while I gather as much as possible.

This game allows geeks to be able to practice social interactions on a small-scale and with no real or lasting outcomes. This also means that they can take risks that they don't allow for themselves otherwise, and stretch their social skills to the limits because it's just a game.
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by Scott Gardener April 26, 2009 7:43 PM PDT
Dang it, I thought this would be an article about therianthropy or transhumanist genetic modification. Instead, it's just that fraking game. Bite me.
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