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July 13, 2008 11:43 PM PDT

The Loopt app: A loopy privacy dilema

by Kevin Ho
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Loopt has an appealing application that allows you to track your friends and allows them to track you on a graphic map. It's kind of like a GPS-sonar radar that I've just discovered on the iPhone 3G. But, is this application really more like an electronic leash? Will your significant other track you? Will moms and dads track their children this year? Yes, Loopt has an extensive privacy policy that discourages/prohibits kids under 14 years old from using the service, but even one of my most 'public' friends (both online and in off-line) was actually hesitant about installing Loopt on his iPhone 3G. Disclosing your location to a third-party seemed to bother him greatly. The thought is that if you're near a store that is having a special you may get an SMS-text bulletin or coupon. The ultimate direct-marketer's dream once Loopt obtains some demographic information. Your movement patterns are one thing, but add-in your physical location, shopping patterns, travel patterns... You've become a human cookie.

To me, it's not necessarily the third-parties I'd be concerned about, but would disclosing your location to first-parties, i.e. your friends and family, be the best thing? We are all entitled to privacy of course. (Well, penumbras of privacy under the Constitution). Some choose to have Dick Cheney-like undisclosed location privacy, while others have Martha Stewart ankle-tracker privacy. But, balancing privacy requires takes a certain amount of prudence (or sanity perhaps) that will evolve as the line between public and private blurs even more. At least, at this point, Loopt allows you to opt out and only updates your location when the application is launched. What happens then you can't opt out any more? That'll throw all of us for a loop. (Sorry for the pun).

Kevin Ho is a San Francisco attorney and the owner of a brand new iPhone. He'll be writing about the experience for the CNET Blog Network, and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.
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by gpslover July 14, 2008 7:27 AM PDT
Hi Kevin - Great insights on privacy and we have seen even more agregious privacy issues on the iPhone not only with Loopt but also with Whrrl that goes and grabs your address book and tries to get them all to had over location. I think I'm sticking with WHERE and their product Buddy Beacon for friend finding. Buddy Beacon asks a user to "post" their locaion to their friends and doesnt "track" or "stalk" them. Its also on way more operators and has tons of cool apps inside including Yelp, Eventful, Skymap, and over 80 more.
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by Stan9987 July 14, 2008 1:52 PM PDT
I agree - it certainly raises some privacy concerns, though people said the same thing about MySpace and Facebook when that came out. About the advertisers, I think these companies are going to have to be careful about not abusing this. If I start getting large amounts of random text message advertisements, I'll dump the service as I imagine most people will. Advertisements should be expected though, as the alternative would be paying for this service.

My favorite of the four big ones on this is Limbo because you can group people you know into different categories - Faves, Friends, and Contacts - and turn yourself off to these groups. I like the option of being able to choose who you want to be "on" or "off" to.
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by tekwiz4u July 14, 2008 3:29 PM PDT
I can see where Loopt can be heading for a lawsuit. How about the stalker ex-boyfriend/girlfriend knowing your every move, hate crimes, etc. This app just opens a can of worms.
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by GSNYK33 July 14, 2008 7:13 PM PDT
Another fun alternative to all this, one with an actual purpose, is a service I've been using called buzzd. Instead of being a stalker tool, it's an actual city guide with reviews and event listings. The finding friends is just a feature that is completely opt-in and has strict privacy guidelines. Plus, I can read posted comments about what's going on at a bar currently (not such personal info) which can be helpful when deciding what place to go to that night.
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by kkho28 July 14, 2008 9:57 PM PDT
Can we say temporary restraining order? Thanks all for the comments.
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by areich July 27, 2008 8:28 PM PDT
GPS George: That 'Loopy' Service
In the latest comic of GPS George, George realizes that his new location based services (LBS) is secretly tracking him and his friends - even if privacy is turned on.

http://www.bitstrips.com/read.php?comic_id=81856
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Kevin Ho is a San Francisco attorney and the owner of a brand new iPhone. He'll be writing about the experience for the CNET Blog Network.

He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET.

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