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July 24, 2008 11:34 AM PDT

Not much Zune in Microsoft exec's speech

by Matt Rosoff

Microsoft's annual Financial Analyst Meeting, in which the company goes over its past fiscal year's results and highlights areas of focus for the coming year, is always a good opportunity for tea-leaf reading.

Microsoft's Robbie Bach, head of the company's Entertainment and Devices business.

(Credit: Microsoft)

After CEO Steve Ballmer's introductory speech, in which he spent a lot of time talking about Microsoft's online business, efforts to compete against Google in search, and the aborted Yahoo tie-up, Entertainment and Devices President Robbie Bach was up. He talked about nearly everything in his business division. He started with the upcoming Xbox Live redesign. He talked about Xbox games. He spent a long time talking about Windows Mobile and the competition with Apple and RIM, as well as new forms of advertising for mobile phones. He talked about Microsoft's IPTV business, the Surface computing table (which is beginning to appear in real-world deployments), and the company's automotive platform.

Zune? It appeared on one slide, but Bach mentioned it for only about five seconds--blink and you'd miss it. Microsoft's showing the device in a nearby demonstration area, and the company has assured me that they're planning some sort of update later this year. But still--4 percent market share, combined with a new urgency on the mobile phone side, and I've got to wonder how much more effort Microsoft's going to put into the Zune in this upcoming fiscal year.

Matt Rosoff is an analyst with Directions on Microsoft, where he covers Microsoft's consumer products and corporate news. He's written about the technology industry since 1995, and reviewed the first Rio MP3 player for CNET.com in 1998. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network. Disclosure. You can follow Matt on Twitter @mattrosoff.
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by john55440 July 24, 2008 12:59 PM PDT
The time to talk about Zune is the Christmas Shopping season, so it's lack of mention is no surprise.

Financially, Zune is spare change that's not worth mentioning to financial analysts.
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by ibeetle July 24, 2008 3:51 PM PDT
Spare change that's not worth mentioning to financial analysts?
Tell that to Apple, Sony, Creative, and SanDisk as well as the dozen or so companies that make their hard drives and other components. They have made millions from their digital music players.
by kelmon July 24, 2008 11:52 PM PDT
Sorry? Do you mean that the Zune's performance during the previous holiday season is not important? The suspicious would read into this that the Zune did poorly last Christmas and that Microsoft therefore didn't want to discuss the product. As a financial analyst, I want to know what sort of return Microsoft is making on its investments into new products so I can see whether I want to trust them with my client's money.
by john55440 July 24, 2008 12:59 PM PDT
The time to talk about Zune is the Christmas Shopping season, so it's lack of mention is no surprise.

Financially, Zune is spare change that's not worth mentioning to financial analysts.
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by chabig83 July 24, 2008 1:16 PM PDT
No. Christmas is supposed to be a time of joy and happiness.
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by Seaspray0 July 24, 2008 1:18 PM PDT
If you look at the zune compared to all other mp3 players excluding the ipod, it's done pretty well. Is it going to replace ipod? Naaaa.... not anytime soon in the next decade and most likely never in my opinion. Ipod has a monopoly on the market right now. The only negative I've found on the ipod has been the price. I picked up a sansa mp3 player for half the cost.
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by AndrewAmazed July 24, 2008 10:31 PM PDT
compared to all other mp3 players excluding the ipod? Your wrong. it IS better than the ipod if you compared them next to each other. many reviews including CNet have given the Zune a higher rating than the iPod.

But iPods are everywhere, the Zune's on its 2nd generation and it has barely started to get noticed lately, and this is the time for the Zune to start picking up some sales but Apple will still reign for quite a while.
by kelmon July 24, 2008 11:56 PM PDT
It might help if Microsoft sold the players outside of the US, like everyone else.
by bicparker July 24, 2008 1:28 PM PDT
The time to talk about Zune or anything that will a company wants to sell at Christmas is now. This is when retail buyers begin to make their budgets for the Christmas season and place their orders. If Zune isn't on the radar for the buyers now, it is too late for anything meaningful.
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by ibeetle July 24, 2008 3:56 PM PDT
Exactly right.
I live in the NYC area. There are two major industry conventions. Toy Fair which is held in February. This is for the toy retail buyers to see what manufactures have so they can place their order for Christmas.
Then there is the Fall/Winter fashion week. Which is held in March. Not October.
What we as consumers see on our shelfs buyers saw at trade shows 6-10 months earlier.
by mreiher July 24, 2008 1:55 PM PDT
Budgets for Christmas??? This is when they place their stocking orders for Christmas!

The thing about the Zune is there is nothing unique about the device. It's another "me too" mp3 player and the Zune marketplace does not even come close to comparing to iTunes or some of the others out there. Again... MS was too little, too late with this device. No innovation here either so why bother? I think MS knows this now too.
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by AndrewAmazed July 24, 2008 10:44 PM PDT
i really don't see how iTunes is so great.
have you ever tried using the Zune marketplace/software? its not that bad.
by kelmon July 25, 2008 12:11 AM PDT
"its not that bad."

I honestly can't speak about the software itself since I don't live in the US, but why does it sell tracks priced in Microsoft Points? Really? Points? What's wrong with real money? That's one of the dumbest things I've heard of. That iTunes will price media in local currency is a definite advantage over some bizarre points scheme.
by Dalkorian July 24, 2008 3:42 PM PDT
M$ is far to worried about the fista disaster to spend any energy worrying about the zune disaster. Besides, he was supposed to reassure the analysts that M$ isn't tanking hard despite the disasters. That's harder to do when you remind them of the disasters. I bet the slide was supposed to be pulled too!
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by AndrewAmazed July 24, 2008 10:31 PM PDT
what Zune disaster? there is no disaster. the Zune is better than the iPod
by kelmon July 25, 2008 12:03 AM PDT
"the Zune is better than the iPod"

If consumers don't think so, does that even matter? There's been plenty of superior products over the years that have lost out to the competition. If Microsoft can't manage the product properly then it's even more of a disaster because it should have done better. So far the Zune has been a waste of money for Microsoft unless they can make a dent into the MP3 player market. Historically they seem to think that if they continue to throw money at a product that it will eventually succeed but I am certain that this will not always work, and in those circumstances you are just throwing money away.
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Matt Rosoff is an analyst with Directions on Microsoft, where he covers Microsoft's consumer products and corporate news. He's written about the technology industry since 1995 and reviewed the first Rio MP3 player for CNET.com in 1998. He's also a bass guitarist and an avid collector (and digitizer) of LP records. DISCLAIMER: This blog contains the personal opinions of the author and does not necessarily represent the opinions of his employers or of CNET Networks. As an IT industry analyst, the author occasionally agrees to nondisclosure agreements from Microsoft or other companies, and he will not violate the terms of such agreements on this blog.

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