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June 24, 2009 1:34 PM PDT

Bing + RealPlayer SP = an iPhone full of ripped videos

by Matt Rosoff

RealNetworks began public beta-testing version 12 of its venerable RealPlayer today. Like the last version, the free RealPlayer SP (which stands for "social and portable") lets you rip streaming Flash videos from the Web to your hard drive. What's new: you can also transcode them into appropriate formats for playback on portable devices. If you're using an iPod or iPhone, the RealPlayer will even generously insert the transcoded version directly into your iTunes library.

RealPlayer SP adds an unobtrusive "Download This Video" box whenever you encounter a Flash-based video in your Web browser.

CNET's John Falcone has already done a rundown of the RealPlayer SP beta, but I was intrigued enough to try it myself. My first thought was to rip YouTube videos, but then I realized that it's much more convenient simply to use the built-in YouTube icon on my iPhone to stream them directly to the phone (as long as I've got a wireless connection, which I usually do).

Then I remembered that one of the best features of Microsoft's new Bing search engine, which launched earlier this month, is its video search. (The predecessor to Bing, Live Search, had most of the same video search features as well.) There's nothing wrong with Google's video search, but I personally prefer the Bing interface, and I like the way the video is previewed right in the search results.

Using them together was a breeze--once installed, the RealPlayer automatically adds a small pop-up message to any embedded video in your browser (I tested it with both Internet Explorer and Firefox), asking you if you want to download the video. Transcoding takes a few minutes, particularly for long videos, but in the last half-hour I've managed to rip the new Grizzly Bear video, the reunited Pink Floyd's entire Live 8 performance, and a live version of Ozzy's "Crazy Train" with Randy Rhoads into iTunes in both video (H.264) and audio-only (MP3) formats. All came from different original sources, but all were available through Bing.

I'm particularly impressed with the RealPlayer's video-to-audio transcoder--my 8GB iPhone is way too small to fit a lot of videos on it, and transcoding video to audio files has been a bit of a hassle in the past. Now I can do it on the fly, as I download them. Kudos to RealNetworks on a nice piece of software.

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Matt Rosoff is an analyst with Directions on Microsoft, where he covers Microsoft's consumer products and corporate news. He's written about the technology industry since 1995, and reviewed the first Rio MP3 player for CNET.com in 1998. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network. Disclosure. You can follow Matt on Twitter @mattrosoff.
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by cvaldes1831 June 24, 2009 3:41 PM PDT
God, I haven't used RealPlayer for about ten years.

Not too sure if I ever will trust those guys again. Do they still load you up with adware, spyware, or other skankware?
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by srhoda June 25, 2009 10:45 AM PDT
Haha, I thought I was the only one who hates RealPlayer. Not only it installed adware, spyware etc on your computers year back but it took a ton of resources too.
by jaxstephens June 25, 2009 11:21 AM PDT
Ha! Any IT guy worth his salt stopped using and installing RealPlayer years ago. They were so notorious for installing crapware on your computer that they permanently sullied any good reputation they previously had. I remember a time when RealPlayer was a must-install on newly reformatted computers.
by cvaldes1831 June 25, 2009 11:21 AM PDT
Oh, no, there are plenty of people who hate RealPlayer. That's why RealPlayer has been clobbered by QuickTime and Windows Media Player.

I'm very protective of my computer. I don't want my little MacBook to date the town skank, RealPlayer. I wouldn't want it to get herpes or something.
by stigmattaman June 24, 2009 4:00 PM PDT
Yeah, their shady past is the only thing keeping me away. I've seen a few demos of SP, and it looks drop-dead simple and it works.
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by svk1069 June 24, 2009 11:16 PM PDT
Sorry, I will never use Real Networks' products again because of my past experiences with not just the products themselves, but the abysmal customer "service" and tech support.
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by ddesy June 25, 2009 6:41 AM PDT
Sheesh... two of the worst products come together for something that can really be done without either! I don't really see this as news.

Bing seems to have a hard time producing relevant search results compared to Google, and Real, well, let's just say that they aren't what they were when Real Audio first came out.
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by monkeyfun14 June 25, 2009 7:52 AM PDT
Tbh I find Bing quite relevant. Google loses relevancy after the first page as well.
by lacykemp June 26, 2009 12:24 PM PDT
Lacy from Real here. I can't not comment here.. Look, we get that there were some unfortunate tendencies in the past with RealPlayer. And it's hurt us. But in the last two versions we've done a ton of leg work, and listened to and incorporated a lot of user feedback. We have made the message center opt-in instead of opt-out, the download size is incredibly small, and there are no other extensions. It's just the player and converter. If you want mobile video, this really is the easiest way to get video to your portable device. If you try it and disagree, feel free to email me and tell me how the product can improve. lkemp@real.com.
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by June 29, 2009 8:52 PM PDT
Real Player Rocks, I have used it for over a year n half and it's truly amazing making me a big fan, I use Real player as my Default to play & download media. This Media player is like a God sent-answer to my prayers. Perhaps it may not have been good years before, well I just find it mind blowingly good, I cant find any other media player which combines viewing, organising, downloading and now converting in just one unit-it all works great. Instead of going by the comments made here simply try it- the proof of the pudding is found by eating it.
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by magsub July 7, 2009 9:33 AM PDT
Clicking on Beta Download at http://www.real.com/realplayer?src=null&pcode=rn
only downloads the RealPlayer 11 Gold.
I am doing this for mac btw.
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by queryme July 21, 2009 12:26 AM PDT
Currently there is no support for Mac. At least not until the end of the year. Read more <a href="http://realnetworksblog.com/?p=657">here</a>

Has anyone else noticed that downloading videos takes a lot longer than with the legacy software?
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