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March 7, 2009 3:17 PM PST

More free on-demand audio with Muziic

by Matt Rosoff

I love covering music software because the pace of evolution is so fast. I guess everybody's looking for the next billion-dollar business (after iTunes) to help replace declining CD sales.

Last week, I blogged about Spotify, a free and legal music player that offers a massive library of music on demand. Unfortunately, Spotify's library has some big gaps because of legal disputes with rights-holders, and it's not available in the U.S.

A couple days later, software developer David Nelson contacted me about Muziic, a company he started with his dad--he's 15(!) and has gone from public high school to online private high school to pursue this project. After checking it out for a few days, I think it's got just as much of a chance of revolutionizing how we listen to music as Spotify does.

Great selection, but black-on-black doesn't get high marks in most usability tests.

Like Spotify, Muziic offers a free downloadable piece of client software with an iTunes-like interface and offers on-demand access to millions of streaming songs. Unlike Spotify, I had no problem finding huge catalogs from artists that are notoriously prickly about posting their music online, including Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, and Radiohead. It also did a great job with all of my more obscure test cases.

How did an unknown company run by a 15-year-old and his dad pull off this incredible licensing coup? Easy--they've basically built a customized front-end to YouTube. Any song that's been uploaded to YouTube is available in Muziic, including a lot of music that isn't available on most commercial services, like the full Pink Floyd's performance at Live 8 and Led Zeppelin's one-off performance in 2007.

Unfortunately, a dispute between Warner Music and YouTube earlier this year means that a lot of recordings owned by Warner are no longer available. But in a lot of cases, users have filled the gaps with (probably unauthorized) recordings from the artists--so while I can't get my favorite studio recordings from Neil Young or the Flaming Lips, there are dozens live nuggets from each of them.

With any luck, Warner and Google (YouTube's parent company) will resolve their dispute and these gaps will be filled. In the meantime, the Nelsons can work on some of the fit-and-finish problems I found with Muziic. The Web site doesn't render properly in Firefox 3.0. The high-quality audio option didn't work for me--I think it's supposed to render YouTube's default Flash audio into AAC on the fly, but the description doesn't make much sense so I can't really tell. (The default audio sounded fine anyway--at least no worse than MP3, which of course isn't so great.) They could use some professional design help--I couldn't maximize the player to fill the screen, there's a lot of unused space in the margins, and the black on black toolbar sliders are awfully hard to use for those of us who have no patience to download different skins.

Overall, though, this is a pretty interesting and impressive piece of work. Muziic also offers an encoder that apparently lets you upgrade your MP3s before uploading them to YouTube--I didn't test this as I'm more interested in listening than sharing, but I'll give it a look later this week and let you know what I think. More important, Muziic (and Spotify) are finally showing the world how compelling a free, legal, on-demand music service can be--nearly a decade after Napster introduced us to the concept.

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Matt Rosoff is an analyst with Directions on Microsoft, where he covers Microsoft's consumer products and corporate news. He's written about the technology industry since 1995, and reviewed the first Rio MP3 player for CNET.com in 1998. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network. Disclosure. You can follow Matt on Twitter @mattrosoff.
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by walterMCMLXXV March 7, 2009 4:19 PM PST
i think this service will be gone within three months and question its legality.
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by Maccess March 7, 2009 6:59 PM PST
Hmmm. I have to agree. It's not just the music licensing, but also YouTube issues. You tube sells adspace on the page and in the video, anything that just "extracts" the audio is likely to injure their business model. However, I think its unlikely that YouTube will sue them, they're more likely to be bought out by YouTube or something similar.
by spy_eagle March 7, 2009 5:33 PM PST
I've tried Muziic.com's service and love it! I have never liked YouTube, but Muziic.com changes that all around. I think this is going to be the next big thing and will be around for awhile. If there is legality issues then that would be on YouTube's side and not with Muziic as all the video's and music is hosted by YouTube. Record labels should pay attention, this is a simple system which will revolutionize how music and videos can be played online, without having to go through all the extra garbage! This one gets a thumbs up!
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by MrZoo March 7, 2009 5:41 PM PST
It's not really new. This reminds me of songza. Remember that service that pulls youtube music videos? Same concept here.
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by Bh01 March 7, 2009 10:51 PM PST
Sadly the player is windoze only so far. Maybe they will release a Mac version?
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by MattRosoff March 9, 2009 3:03 PM PDT
Unlikely: it was coded in VB6 by a single programmer. So even if it survives, Mac port is probably a low likelihood for now.
by themississippian March 8, 2009 5:53 AM PDT
is there anything out there that helps dialup users to get uninterrupted streaming of music radio or talk shows?i cannot get dsl service and broadband is too expensive since, i am retired.
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by sparrowhyperion March 8, 2009 10:37 AM PDT
Dial up cannot compete with broadband access for music. There simply is not enough bandwidth. With broadband being so inexpensive nowadays, I wonder why anyone would still use Dialup if they had access to broadband. I pay $99 flat rate for 12MB/s Internet access, AND my telephone service, AND my digital cable TV all rolled into one cable bundle. You could probably get a streaming site to work, but it is going to sound like an old 1920s gramophone of someone stuttering with musical accompaniment. It's just not technically to do unless you were to find something that basically buffers the entire song before playing it. And download times would not be fast. an MP3 file is roughly between 1MB and 2MB per minute of playback time. So, downloads would not be fast by any means.
by gggg sssss March 9, 2009 6:01 PM PDT
it is called DSL
by eisenb March 8, 2009 5:50 PM PDT
Definitely very cool but I don't think legal. I think there's a good chance that they find themselves in the same position as the original Napster. Will be interesting to see if the labels go after them for faciliatating copyright infringement. Full article at http://digadvisors.com/free-streaming-music-from-muziic/.
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by 410landscaper March 9, 2009 5:05 AM PDT
Are there as many spam,adware and virus problems on this site that are on sites such as Limewire? Should we wait longer to use this site until they get the bugs out?
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Matt Rosoff is an analyst with Directions on Microsoft, where he covers Microsoft's consumer products and corporate news. He's written about the technology industry since 1995 and reviewed the first Rio MP3 player for CNET.com in 1998. He's also a bass guitarist and an avid collector (and digitizer) of LP records. DISCLAIMER: This blog contains the personal opinions of the author and does not necessarily represent the opinions of his employers or of CNET Networks. As an IT industry analyst, the author occasionally agrees to nondisclosure agreements from Microsoft or other companies, and he will not violate the terms of such agreements on this blog.

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