Microsoft's Bach: We'd do Zune differently
I tuned into Thursday's conversation between Microsoft's Robbie Bach and financial analysts at CES. Bach is the president of the company's Entertainment and Devices division, which includes Xbox, Windows Mobile, retail channel relationships, and most of the other fun stuff. It also includes the Zune, which, given its lack of financial impact on the company, didn't merit much of his time.
Toward the end however, one analyst (not identified on the recording) suggested that the company's foray into MP3 players had been a waste of time. Today, Microsoft talks about providing software and services on "three screens"--the PC, the TV, and mobile devices. So why did Microsoft make a foray into hardware, which alienated its device-maker partners (remember PlaysForSure?), and probably cost the company tens or hundreds of millions so far.
Bach insisted that music was a required component of the "three screen" experience, and that Microsoft had to be a leader rather than a mere technology provider in this space. If Microsoft hadn't built the Zune, it wouldn't have been able to create the Zune software and Marketplace, which have become pretty solid after a couple false starts. But he admitted that if the company were to enter the space again with perfect hindsight, it would do things differently.
How, exactly? He didn't say. But he did say that regardless of whether Microsoft had built its own MP3 player, it would have changed its relationship with every OEM and "caused just as much disruption." In other words, the Windows Media strategy wasn't working. Consumers didn't want a confusing array of devices and stores and formats and DRM schemes that didn't always work together. They didn't want to think about this stuff at all! They just wanted to rip their CDs, maybe buy a few tracks online, and take all this stuff with them.
My guess: PlaysForSure would have been just as dead. Microsoft would have created a new music brand, a new logo program, new hardware specs for the devices, new client software to replace the Media Player for syncing and library organization (like the Zune client), and a new store that could only be used with this new software and these new devices (like the Zune Marketplace). In other words, there still would have been a clean break between old and new. The only difference is that Microsoft wouldn't have manufactured and marketed the actual Zune devices, and consumers might have had a greater choice of hardware from the get-go. This might have led to quicker innovation--for instance, some forward-thinking OEM probably would have created a touch-screen "Zune" by now.
The only question: after the PlaysForSure debacle, who would have gone along? Which is probably why Microsoft built the Zune hardware in the first place.
Matt Rosoff is an analyst with Directions on Microsoft, where he covers Microsoft's consumer products and corporate news. He's written about the technology industry since 1995, and reviewed the first Rio MP3 player for CNET.com in 1998. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network. Disclosure. You can follow Matt on Twitter @mattrosoff. 



Oh, and what is with selling stuff with Microsoft Points?
The iPhone was going into a different market with different positioning than the Zune. The IPOD is positioned to charge a premium for the product based on perceived quality and features. So when the IPHONE was launched it was able to get a lot of the IPOD juice. Plus they were going into a market that was desperate for this type of product.
I personally use a Samsung MP3 and replaced my daughters broken IPOD with Zune. While I never had the desire or drive to replace my player with IPOD, I have fallen in love with the Zune (and so has she so no trade option?). I just wish that MS would use some money and muscle and get more docking options.
Does you mean the zune new?
As apple annouce that itunes music free from DRM, how about the new zune?
There are converters for zune such as http://www.convert-video-dvd.com/dvd-to-zune-converter.html#115 Will Microsoft make new zune program?
Unfortunately - my insight into this comes from daily contact with students at a public university - most of the rest of their overall system architecture was equally clueless.
The overwhelming majority of Microsoft revenue is because "everyone uses it," not because its product is best. They have become experts at the fine art of milking their installed base - that's their real strength, not product development, which they do only as necessary. Apparently they didn't realize that approach wouldn't work in the MP3 player market.
Hmm, you mean like Windows Mobile? Or like Windows for the desktop?
Microsoft can't seem to keep its messages straight.
And that's the problem. Customer delight is not a formula.
Ironic that Zune users are in exactly the same situation that Mac users were in during the OS 7/8/9 days - marginalized, technically unfavorable hardware, differentiated software that most people don't see the big deal in...how's it feel?
I think the reason Zune hasn't caught on isn't necessarily the Zune, but Microsoft's history of dropping support for things that aren't necessarily "hot" anymore. It doesn't give a consumer very much confidence in what they are shelling their money out for. I will have to say that that is one thing Apple has done correctly. Now, that said, Microsoft HAS in fact provided pretty good support for the Zune since the first generation; more so than I ever expected. For example, firmware upgrades available for ALL generations.
If Microsoft continues to innovate with the Zune, I think they will eventually start pulling market share from Apple. But at that point, the profit margins will probably not be what they are now. Hopefully Microsoft will look beyond direct profits from the Zune and see the overall picture and the role the Zune could play.
Plus, with the iPod Touch, the zune is playing in a dwindling market and has no answer.
The social has no value.
FM radio built in provides terrible reception, plus radio is a no sale for most users.
The iPod Touch excels as a player and much more... that is the future and vision that Apple has shown the world.
You mean you wouldn't make it the poorest excuse for a player ever built? You wouldn't make them all crash over a date change? You wouldn't make them be an iPod from 3 generations ago but with with buggy software and ugly colors?
Tell ya what MS, the day you make a product that actually works, I will care...
.....oh wait, you do make a good mouse.
Shame that is only product since about 1990 that you have made that is worth owning.
Don't worry, I am sure windows (delayed for at least) 7
(years) will fix all your trouble. Looks like a theme pack for windows vista so far. Typical of what you mindless drone customers will buy. Should sell well!
I don't really care which player you like best, but please get your facts straight:
1.) The format is called "AAC", short for "Advanced Audio Coding"
2.) It's not a proprietary Apple format but an open MPEG standard (only Apple's DRM was proprietary).
3.) The Zune is perfectly capable of playing unprotected AAC files - so are other players, PSPs and many phones and PDAs.
For more on AAC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding
- by Maccess February 18, 2009 10:51 PM PST
- 1) Are there more Zunes than iPods among Microsoft's employees' households today ? I don't mean Zunes bought or used by employees because they were told to do so, but including MP3 players bought by MS employees for their family members.
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(28 Comments)2) Why didn't MS think about making a really good MP3 player ecosystem-the portable part of which would be software running on Windows Mobile, which has an installed base running into the millions? Nokia and Sony Ericsson may not be known as MP3 player makers, but there are more portable audio devices running on Symbian than there are iPods.
3) Why did they have to kill off the the PlaysFor Sure Program? Couldn't they have built on that, and have had millions of players for their ecosystems