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August 14, 2009 6:00 AM PDT

Have classic games changed the way you play?

by Don Reisinger
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Gotta love the classic games, eh?

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Video game developer Capcom announced on Tuesday that it will be bringing some of its classics to the PlayStation 3 and the Sony PSP. According to the company, it will be releasing Mega Man Powered Up, Dino Crisis, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3: Nemesis, and more.

Capcom is following a long list of companies that have brought classic titles back to gamers. And for the most part, they can be found on the major consoles.

Xbox 360 owners can download several classic titles, including Doom, Sonic the Hedgehog, Worms, Duke Nukem 3D, Banjo-Kazooie, and many others (full list).

Sony offers Final Fantasy VII, Crash Bandicoot, Twisted Metal 2, Wild Arms, Tekken 2, Metal Gear Solid, and Destruction Derby, to name a few (full list).

Nintendo boasts a variety of classic titles, including Wave Race 64, Punch-Out, Donkey Kong, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and Super Mario Bros. (full list)

Today's gaming landscape is (naturally) home to the most advanced video games we have ever played. But this generation of consoles is also ideal, if you're into classic gaming.

I, for one, get more excited when the "big three" announce additions to their classic-game lineups than when they announce new games. At least half of my time gaming includes trips down memory lane. I'm fighting my way through Final Fantasy VII, I'm crashing against the water in Wave Race 64, or I'm taking opponents out in Punch-Out. It's fantastic.

Recent moves by developers and hardware makers to bring classic games to current consoles are ideal for someone like me. I'm often bored with derivative first-person shooters. The same basic stories pitting good against evil get old. I need to get away and immerse myself in a world that was created years ago, when the industry was different.

Developers in previous gaming generations didn't rely so heavily on graphics to impress crowds--they relied on innovation. That focus on innovation comes through in so many of the classic games I play. Final Fantasy VII's story is better than most current-gen titles. Sonic the Hedgehog's use of speed to build excitement is unparalleled. I still have more fun playing Super Mario Bros. than any other game that has been released in the past few years. None of those titles might be able to match up graphically, but they offer something unique that makes them far more compelling than many newly released titles.

So as I consider how my gaming has changed since I've started immersing myself in classic gaming, I'm shocked to see the impact it has had on how I play games. Years ago, I played nothing but current-gen games. Today, I'm splitting my time between the old classics and new titles. It's fun.

What about you? Are you playing old games, or are you sticking to the new stuff? Let us know in the comments below.

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by Random_Walk August 14, 2009 6:33 AM PDT
This comes from a guy who sweated for hours to locate a TCP/IP patch for Quake 1: Come up with something new.

The old-school games are awesome, don't get me wrong. From the zillions of hours and quarters wasted on the original Galaxian and Defender arcade games, to the crude but exhilarating 3D graphics of the earliest Doom and Duke Nuke'Ems, they represent a small but thrilling chunk of years gone by. Sometimes I'll shake 'em out and play 'em on an emulator or on a VM (or once in awhile, I'll dust off an old console and fire it up).

OTOH, the past is past. Trying to resurrect that only cheapens the whole experience, and shows an utter lack of creativity on the developers' part.

Come up with something new, FFS. Stop trying to milk the past for all it's worth.
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by clamenza August 14, 2009 6:39 AM PDT
Why should they, if people keep buying?
by chrkeller August 14, 2009 10:17 AM PDT
I disagree, I don't see it as milking. I love playing old games, but now I don't need 9 systems hooked up to my TV in order to do so, I can just have the big three (Wii, 360 and ps3). Not too mention I can now play old games with a wireless controller and in a lot of cases (Banjo) the framerate and overall sharpness of the game has been significantly improved. I love the push for rejuvenating old classics. Not too mention some support achievements and trophies, plus being able to play psx classics on the road with my PSP just owns.
by Sporlo August 14, 2009 10:41 AM PDT
I think they should keep supplying the old games, but like Random_Walk said, they need something new (and actually good). People buy the old games because they're GOOD, not simply because it reminds them of the past. If the majority of the new games were actually innovative and fun, then less focus would be on the old titles.

What was nice about the old consoles is that developers had no need to put a whole lot of focus into graphics, because they didn't have much to work with in the first place. Now, graphics are a huge focus. Not only do the graphics get more complex, but the gameplay itself gets more complex. Some of the most simple games are the best games.
by iamacat August 20, 2009 10:58 AM PDT
Yeah, let's not waste time re-releasing old books, movies and music either! After all, how can Tom Sawyer complete with today's time's best seller? Who will listen to Beatles when there is Brittney Spears? They didn't have 24 bit color illustrations or MTV videos back then!

In truth, great creative works are fairly independent of technology. In fact, need for a big team and expensive equipment detracts from individual talent. By insisting on artificial obsolescence game industry is just pushing a large segment of the market - people with money, life, work, kids and taste for games they played when growing up - into abandon-ware sites or simply giving up on the concepts.
by niko_osokin August 14, 2009 6:43 AM PDT
You get more excited for classic releases than for new ones? Dude, come on, those games have been done over and over and a new 'old' release doesn't push the genre - it just caters to the relatively old people and introduces the oldies to the new generation.

Also, did you watch E3? Are you telling me Mega Man 9 had you more excited than Splinter Cell: Conviction or Assassin's Creed 2? You're old.
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by ddesy August 14, 2009 11:35 AM PDT
Wait.... are you serious? That's sad.
by brettak81 September 11, 2009 7:25 AM PDT
niko_osokin...

it has nothing to do with age dude. i'm 28 years old so i wasn't quite old enough to be around for the 1st generation of gaming consoles (atari, commodore 64, etc) but i sure do still appreciate the games from that era. it's extremely interesting to see the evolution of games and genres.

niko you won't be a true gamer until you mature a bit and you broaden your horizons and check out as many back catalogs of the original games as you can.
by techfortat August 14, 2009 6:58 AM PDT
I'm with you Don. I guess that means I'm old too. I own a Wii and I've downloaded twice as many classic games as I've bought new games. Playing the original Punch Out and Super Mario Bros (all 3) again on the big screen is great. I also enjoy the old Sega and Genesis games, since I didn't have those systems.
The older games are fun and based on gameplay rather than graphics.
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by bluemist9999 August 18, 2009 6:37 AM PDT
I agree. While there were a fair number of stinkers, there were also a large number of classic games that had fun, simple gameplay (Super Mario series, Zelda series, Metroid, Final Fantasy series).

In terms of enjoyment, a $5 purchase for the Wii Virtual Console can often provide more simple enjoyment than a $50 PC game. While the graphics and gameplay can be simpler, that is great for casual gaming.

I'd rather play games that are fun to play, even if they have poor graphics, lack "realistic" physics and lack sophisticated controls.

It's really whatever you enjoy. Not everyone enjoys complex gameplay.
by pjscullion August 14, 2009 7:24 AM PDT
I play everything. I've owned everything from an Atari 2600 (which came out before I was born) all the way up to the 360. I still play older games, provided I can find a platform to play them on. Sometimes it's nice to run around in Doom and know exactly what you need to be doing, versus destroying every freakin tree in Far Cry 2 to try to find everything the game has to offer.

My PC is great for most older games, and if my new laptop can't run it then my older desktop system can. I'm starting to shift away from console games again, for the simple fact that the 360 doesn't have a good mouse/keyboard support system.

And I agree with TechforTat, SMBros3 for the Wii arcade is AWESOME on a big-screen.
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by infamousdude August 14, 2009 8:04 AM PDT
Indeed, I enjoy playing classic games on Virtual console. I can safely say some classic titles are way more fun than newly released games.

I had the chance to play Zelda: Ocarina of Time, all Super Mario Bros. and some Genesis games again, actually I'm playing more classic games on my Wii than new games! hehe!
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by Zoobie August 14, 2009 8:52 AM PDT
I downloaded and played Super Metroid on the Wii (probably my favorite game ever), Super Mario World, and a few others. It got me thinking--why did I sell my old SNES just so I could buy those games again? The good thing is I kept most of my PS1 games (except FFVII which I sold on eBay), so at least I don't have to pay for Crash Bandicoot again. Just reading about it made me think I might pull that up on my PS3 tonight...
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by Donniebrasco August 14, 2009 11:46 AM PDT
After seeing it on the PS Store, I too had an urge to play Crash. I'll wait until I go to my parents house next time though and search if my disc is still there. Crash and Gran Turismo 2 have be thinking about using that backwards compatability.

With that said, virtual console games are fun, but I wouldn't tell the developers to forget about new games. Especially with FPS, the newer games are far superior to the old ones. Some games are just great games (SMB 3, Zelda, etc.) and will always been fun to play and others I think are more nostalgia rather than being a "great" game. For me those would include Tecmo Super Bowl (which needs to come to Wii..why is there Tecmo Bowl but no Super Bowl?) and games like RC Pro Am or RBI Baseball. I love them, but I wouldn't say they are necessarily great. Also, I think more developers are realizing that fun and simple aren't mutually exclusive. Trash Scatter on PSN is an example. Really simple concept, but its pretty addicting...plus its only $5.
by PapaGamer August 14, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
I am 42 and started playing games as a teenager on the Atari 2600. I've tried "resurrecting" the past with the Wii VC. I tried going back to titles I used to love to play, like Legend of Zelda (and LoZ 2), Super Metroid, Donkey Kong (& 2 & 3), F-Zero and more. IMHO, old games suck. Any thrill playing them today comes from pure nostalgia, and I don't engage much in nostalgia. The "innovations" those games came up with have long been surpassed. I like my games new and shiny, thank you.
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by ddesy August 14, 2009 11:37 AM PDT
It isn't just nostalgia for a lot of people. Many of the "innovations" in new games are not worthwhile when it comes to making them anything more than eye candy.
by sting7k August 14, 2009 9:55 AM PDT
I have a bunch of classic games on my Xbox 360; Doom, Sonic, Marathon, Vigilante 8, etc. I think on my Wii I play more classic old games than new ones. Love Wave Race 64! It provides a nice break from the new games which are complex and pretty intense. The classics are good for short bursts and lots of fun.
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by jw1776 August 14, 2009 11:09 AM PDT
Yup. I waste time playing Duke Nukem 3D on the 360.
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by gefitz August 14, 2009 2:06 PM PDT
Old games harken back to a time when gameplay was king. You couldn't rely on graphics to sell a 35th sequel of "Third-Person Shoot The Other Guy", or "Old Man's Football Sim That Hasn't Honestly Changed In 15 Years But We Can Slap This Year Into The Title And Re-release It".

As a non-"gamer", I'm interested in creativity, something different, and fun. Even if the classics are familiar, my memory of the creativity they represented when they were released brings me back. The creativity is getting harder and harder to find as the focus in gaming continuously shifts towards milking the GPU for all it's got.

The game industry isn't the only entertainment industry to rely on graphics to sell, by the way. Anyone seen the Transformers, G.I.Joe, Spider-Man movies? Crappy movies with great effects. And they make millions. So maybe I'm the crazy one and everyone else is the growth-potential...but that doesn't mean that the Idiocracy isn't just around the corner...
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by BtmnHatesRbn August 14, 2009 6:22 PM PDT
What was the point of stating the obvious here? Retro has always been big, since the days the companies could cram more than four games onto a cart. Nintendo's original Game Boy has the Classic Arcade series with Atari's stuff re-released on Game Boy in 1994. Sega dumped all of their "retro" Genesis classics into two volumes of Sega Classics series for the Sega CD. Tetris was released on CD-i by Philips, and then The 7th Guest when that game became a "classic" or "retro".

So, what is the point? Did the CNET author just realize this? Then where have you been? Ever heard of the Namco Museums for PlayStation? Capcom Generations for Saturn/PlayStation? Arcade's Greatest Hits from Midway/Atari? Emulation? Yeesh.
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by Inconnux August 15, 2009 2:50 PM PDT
like todays games some of the classics are great and others were just plain horrible. Classics can be played over and over because of great gameplay, I'm sure that in 10 years todays great games will be played because of their amazing gameplay. What this shows me is that game developers should concentrate on gameplay instead of graphics.
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by cvaldes1831 August 15, 2009 4:53 PM PDT
Innovative entertainment should be appreciated regardless of when it was created. It's the same with books, music, movies, whatever.

The fact that Mozart's Jupiter Symphony is still enjoyed 221 years after it was written says something about the quality of the work.
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by dinochimpz August 17, 2009 12:26 AM PDT
Well put cvaldes1831. Very well put. It depends on the focus of the developers. To be the biggest thing of the week or to make something durable to the test of time or even repeated play by the same person. Ironically I think just about any gamer really only want the former. As there is little comparative satisfaction in saying "I played spider man the game" to friends to be hip, versus just enjoying a really good game. I think all but the very most casual of gamer would agree.

Ahh, Jupiter Symphony does sound nice.
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by roachbrain August 17, 2009 6:04 AM PDT
Unfortunately if a game does appear now days with great game play but so-so graphics guess what happens. Websites like this one and others get crammed with people saying how crappy the game looks and by association it must suck. Developers know that for something to sell unfortunately it has to be eye candy. Take GTA for instance, are you really going to tell me that the original wasn't better than GTA4? Hell no Niko's story was boring as all hell. Yet boast boast boast "look at all the graphics ohhhhhh my car handles like a turd on wheels just like in real life"...fail.

I've played so many great games that weren't even looked at because of the first glance at the graphics; just check out "Blood Will Tell" that game rocked. Killing demons to get 48 different body parts back and every time you did you get a new ability. That's 48 bosses, 48 different things to look forward to. I'd dear say that game was even funner than Ninja Gaiden.

then there are the ones that get worse with time like Halo, Bionic Commando, Resident Evil, FF, Rainbow Six, and about 60-70% of most remakes or sequels that are just terrible the "newer" they try to make it.
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by ryanw19 August 18, 2009 6:35 AM PDT
"funner"?
by ninjahonor August 17, 2009 9:08 AM PDT
Let's see. I'm just going to make a list of the games I play now that are "old school". These are games that I play because I own the cartridges, or have downloaded them. Next, I will add my opinion of what games I think should come to virtual consoles.

Games I play:

Startropics (anyone remember the submarine code on the original game? Yeah, I threw it away lol)
FF7,8,10,X-2, Megaman series and X series, Breath of Fire 3 and 5, Saga frontier, FF12 (not quite old school but past-gen system), Tekken Tag Tournament, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Onimusha (dawn of dreams?), Legend of Legaia 2, Grandia 3, Star Ocean 2 and 3, and more I'm sure.

Games I want to be out on virtual console.

Secret of mana and evermore, Illusion of Gaia, Panzer Dragon Saga, Startropics 2, Uniracers, Adventure Island (all of them), Donkey Kong 64, Pilotwings, Dragon Warrior (all), Battletoads, and Soulblazer.

Some of these games are actually really, really good, while others are indeed for nostaligia effect.
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by roachbrain August 18, 2009 5:31 AM PDT
Some of my favorites. Some of these aren't that old but still as awesome and wish they would be remade or at lest sequels that do them justice.

Parasite Eve (PS)
Wing Commander 4 (PS)
Nuclear Dawn (PS)
Stunt Racer FX (SNES)
Fire power 2000 (SNES)
Jackal (NES)
Nightmare Creatures (PS)
Abomination (PC)
Killer Instinct (SNES)
A real sequel to Kingdom under Fire as it was RTS / Hack and slash (XBOX)
Solders of Fortune (NES)
Cameo (360)
by Rob_Phillip12 August 19, 2009 4:28 PM PDT
OMG!!!! They Have Duke Nuke 'Em on XBOX LIVE?!?!?!?!?!?! I think I may have finally found a reason to by one! Now if only one of these companies would put the Journeyman Chronicles out there I'd be real happy.

I have to admit I am a lot like the author in respect to playing new vs. classic titles. I split my time about 50/50 between them. Although I have to say the gap is narrowing more towards the classics. That shift is all about pure replay value, I just don't get the same effect from most of the newer stuff.
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by AlnilamE August 26, 2009 11:23 AM PDT
Yeah, I have an X-Box 360 and I've been dividing my time between Wolfenstein 3D, Morrowind and Puzzle Quest. I will get back to the 360 games after that, but it is really neat to be able to download older games.

After arguing with people on the PS3 slim threads about BC, I decided that when I get back from vacation, I'm going to get an original 60GB PS3 on eBay so I can retire the PS2, but still play my PS2 games.
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