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November 21, 2008 9:12 AM PST

Is Apple scared of RIM?

by Don Reisinger
(Credit: RIM)

Is it a coincidence that Apple's iPhone 2.2 update was released on the same day the BlackBerry Storm hit stores with a touch screen, 3G connectivity, and enterprise-friendly functionality that rivals anything Apple has on the market?

I think not.

Today's iPhone update is Apple's first salvo of many in its fight against Research In Motion for dominance over the cell phone industry. Some might say Apple's decision to update the iPhone is pure coincidence, but I don't think that the company is that naive.

Apple realizes that RIM is releasing a major offering that could shake Steve Jobs and Co. to its core, and it doesn't want anyone to think it's not doing everything it can to continually update its own product.

But Apple's decision to release the update just as RIM releases the Storm strikes me as one of the most fascinating moves the company has made in quite some time. After checking out the update and considering the timing, I can't help but wonder if Apple is more than a little concerned about the BlackBerry Storm and RIM in general.

Sure, it's easy for some to say Apple has no reason to be scared of RIM, because the iPhone's popularity keeps growing, and its business functionality is now on par with RIM's, but I'm not so quick to agree. The BlackBerry Storm appeals to consumers who want a "next generation" cell phone, as well as company employees that want a new BlackBerry with all the extra fixins, to boot.

Say what you will, but Apple is scared. And it should be.

I have a feeling that the cell phone war between Apple and RIM will look much like the operating-system war Apple is fighting against Microsoft: RIM will hold the business ground and Apple the consumer space.

That said, neither company wants it to end that way, and perhaps that's why RIM is finally bringing a touch screen to the market, and Apple is making business functionality a key selling point with iPhone 3G.

Regardless, the BlackBerry Storm provides the kind of experience that we haven't seen yet from RIM. Unlike its previous iterations, in which a physical keyboard was the centerpiece of its strategy, RIM finally woke up and realized that the future is in the touch screen because that's where Apple brought us. And although it's probably not the most ideal form of text entry for business professionals, I think most will see past that, realize that the touch screen can be a better alternative, in some cases, and choose the Storm over any other device.

But perhaps the real reason why Apple should be scared of RIM is not because RIM is changing the way cell phones are made, or altering the dynamics of the industry. Apple should be scared because of its own shortcomings with the iPhone 3G.

Consider this: the BlackBerry Storm offers cut-and-paste (duh!) functionality, its touch screen provides tactile feedback, it works as a tethered modem (a major plus for businesses), allows for expandable memory, boasts video recording, and the battery is removable. The list goes on, but I think that grouping proves the point well: the iPhone 3G is not as capable as we may think.

Now, that's not to say that there aren't any shortcomings associated with the Storm, but let's face it: the number of shortcomings in the iPhone 3G far outweigh those found in the Storm.

Although it will never admit it, and Apple will claim that its iTunes integration and App Store makes it a better choice, you can bet that company executives are running scared Friday. Even though Apple created this category and revolutionized the market, RIM just one-upped the founders, and Apple knows that.

Say what you will about RIM, but the fact that the Storm's battery is removable, and it can be used as a tethered modem, is enough to justify companies picking them up for employees. And with the help of a touch screen and all the goodies consumers enjoy in the iPhone 3G, the Storm is an attractive choice for teenagers, college students, and even stay-at-home parents.

The iPhone was cool, up until yesterday. But today, there's a new phone in town, and if you ask me, it just took the title.

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Don Reisinger is a technology columnist who has written about everything from HDTVs to computers to Flowbee Haircut Systems. Don is a member of the CNET Blog Network, and posts at The Digital Home. He is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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by slickuser November 21, 2008 9:40 AM PST
it is now easy for everyone to copy Apple's ideas and come up with their own version. Look at the Storm user interface and Android based phone's user interface. Apple's ideas and innovations copied everywhere!!
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by tgilino November 21, 2008 9:51 AM PST
What's amusing about the hype surround the iPhone is two-fold, one based on hardware and the other based on software. On the software end, the App Store, for all it's cooked up to be in TV commercials, is just a refresh of something many wireless companies have had for years (Verizon's Get It Now service, based on Qualcomm's BREW service, has been around for 7 years!). Also, the hardware of the touchscreen on the iPhone is hardly new or revolutionary, except for the US. The touch screen only Motorola Ming was released a full year and a half before the iPhone, but only in Europe and Asia. Please stop trumpeting the idea that "it is now easy for everyone to copy Apple's ideas" when they weren't the first, by far, to come up with the idea.
by Get_Bent November 21, 2008 9:58 AM PST
"it is now easy for everyone to copy Apple's ideas and come up with their own version."

Just like Apple copied Xerox PARC's ideas and came up with their own version.... Much of the progress in computing involves improvements and derivatives of existing ideas.
by sythara November 21, 2008 10:12 AM PST
If you take someone elses idea and make it better, who cares where the idea came from (unless law is violated). Seriously folks. Someone took an idea for a new product from somewhere else. Thats called progress.
by Penguinisto November 21, 2008 10:40 AM PST
Clue: Apple licensed Xerox' idea, since Xerox figured it to be commercially worthless at the time.

Also, there's a diff between licensing a tech and copying it. ;)
by cern123 November 21, 2008 11:17 AM PST
Some reviews from yesterday. CNET at time lacks all credibility...

TIME Magazine: ?Novelty screen feels cheap; steer clear of this storm?
Chicago Tribune: ?Can?t compete with Apple?s iPhone?
Gizmodo: ?Heavy, laggy, sluggish, unstable, clunky, and tiring?
Engadget: ?Frustrating, inelegant, uncomfortable; a disappointment?
by cdesignspr November 21, 2008 11:18 AM PST
The things mentioned that the STORM haves and the iPhone doesn't have you can t find it on a Jailbreak Iphone, Video Recording, Phone as a modem using PDAnet, and tons of programs available, and stills nothings compares to the iPhone touchscreen and interface. Copy/Paste will be available soon for the iPhone, the only thing the storm has that the iPhone doesn't has is the removable battery, but COME ON, who carries a spare battery in their pocket for when the phone discharges? iPhone adapters are everywhere and at least I getr a good battery life on my iphone.

PS: The android is a JOKE, 2 months more and it will be like the Sprint Instinct "Wow something new and after you buy it, you still have the same crappy interface as other phones, poor video playback quality and poor software"
by mathue_tax November 21, 2008 11:19 AM PST
I dunno about coping, though its derivative.

I do find the article's contention that the 2.2 update was designed to be specially released today in an effort to 'dampen the storm' if I dare turn a phrase is a bit of a reach. I coulda sworn it was released in the US on the 20th, which was yesterday. That being so I'm not sure how an OS update for the iPhone today would affect the storm's sales or buzz.

As for Apple being afraid of RIM, I dunno that afraid is quite the right world. Certainly Apple knows they are a big competitor but for what little time Apple has been in this market they have gained a remarkable share. Clearly the market needed a shakeup and Apple provided that, now RIM has taken up the challenge and made their stab at it. I think if there's anyone who's afraid in the smartphone category it's probably Palm.

Palm pretty much owned this market via its Handspring acquisition in the summer of 2003, but its choice to spin off the OS side at the time was a fully boneheaded move. Eventually they would buy it back but the stagnation on it's operating system had taken hold by then. At the same time Palm's user satisfaction ratings have nosedived.

The iPhone led the satisfaction ratings last quarter but a large margin, once we get another quarter out we'll see how the Storm does and then we'll have a better grip on who's 'afraid'.
by GavinSimmons November 21, 2008 11:54 AM PST
I really don't understand why all the phones with touch screen are considered "iPhone Copycats." Maybe, if you were born in 1990, you'd think the iPhone is the first all touch-screen phone. I could see that. But you see I was born in 1984. My first cell phone had was all touch-screen w/ a flip-up keypad and a few months later I upgraded to a new cellphone which had nothing but a touch-screen and a power button -and volume on the side. This was all in 2002, shortly before I bought my 2nd generation iPod, and the devices I am speaking of are the Kyocera 6035 and Samsung i300 respectively. The Samsung had a color screen, the latest Palm software , great CDMA service, the ability to browse web pages as you would on a computer (instead of the mobile verson), a weatlh of free palm software available online, wireless and syncable email, an IR port, removable batteries (it came with a second battery!), and many other features. As it was a Palm, it synced with my Mac better than I expect the Storm will. I also had a CD player which used a wheel to select songs and change volume before I bought that lousy 10gb iPod. I'd call up every person I knew with an iPhone and explain that to them, but they all have ATT so it just goes straight to voicemail anyway.
I have been an early adopter and Apple user since 2002. However I will never fall into this trap of believing that the pioneers at able are employed anywhere other than the marketing department. They bring many interesting technologies together in neat ways, but they didn't really "invent" any hardware nor where they the first to incorporate any new hardware. The inovations that shine from Cupertino, CA are software and user interface revolutions as well as interesting ideas for bringing new and pre-existing technologies together for profit. The Storm's main screen dosen't look much different from the main screen of a Blackberry 7290, or a PalmOne. The only thing that I can say is truely a copied iPhone inovation is Visual Voice-Mail.
by SidedPanic November 21, 2008 12:43 PM PST
This is utter jargon - the amount of ideas apple steals and you come out with this rubbish. The very heart of their products, OSX, that runs their macs and iphones, is just built on unix and is in total about 99% other peoples work. Even their most recent plaudit for innovation, the clickable touchpad on the new macs, was actually just blackberry's innovation on the storm. All companys steal ideas, get over it.
by piepiecakecake November 21, 2008 1:00 PM PST
I'll say it too:

Um . . . Apple didn't copy Xerox, they licensed the technology because no on else wanted it. The mouse as an input device was laughed at then, just as people laughed at the iPhone. There's a HUGE difference between incorporating technologies into an existing idea, and doing it legally, and simply 'copying'. RIM would be in the latter category with this device, but because Apple had the smarts to patent the iPhone out the wazoo, what they've come up with feels like . . . a cheap copy.

This is one of the only positive pieces I've seen for the device amidst an overwhelmingly negative reaction to real world use.
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by canagica November 21, 2008 9:46 AM PST
why didn't they make the damn thing with wi-fi? it would have made it so much easier to choose...
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by Adjei2008 November 21, 2008 9:57 AM PST
A phone without wifi and this is supposed to be an "iphone killer."
by sythara November 21, 2008 10:14 AM PST
They said LG Voyager was supposed to be iPhone killer.....

There will be no iAnything killer unless Apple itself fails and gets bought out by Microsoft. Too many fanatics who buy Apple crap just because its Apple, no matter what.

And yes, no wi-fi these days is idiotic.
by abcd9009 November 21, 2008 10:16 AM PST
You have to realize, unlike the rest of the world where the phone manufacturers build based on the demand from the users; North America is complete opposite (and the reason why so out-dated). Here the phones are build to meet the carriers specifications first and then comes the users needs. I bet the reason Storm doesn't have Wi-Fi is because Verizon must have forced them not to include it because that's losing money to something that's FREE.
Look out for Storm when it's available outside US (GSM network). It will surely have Wi-Fi build in it.
by oassaf November 21, 2008 10:33 AM PST
That is exactly true abcd, Its Verizon that did not want wifi right now, they want to push there 3G network. And this same thing will happen when it is initially released on GSM, RIM and the networks are good at this. They did it with teh Pearl and Curve really well. They released both without GPS and Wifi first. Then 3 months later they re-released them with these features. That way they get teh early adopters stuck on their 3G networks and reward those who wait with a better product. In reality people should wait before they pick up a storm..which most business will do, as a wifi model will be here and by February most likely.
by ecolon42 November 21, 2008 11:35 AM PST
I think " APPLE " not providing MMS, Ability to forward text, COPY & PASTE, TITHERING, VIDEO RECORDING, ZOOM and the list goes on is more IDIOTIC then not having WIFI. I can deal without WIFI but IPHONE short comings are really annoying.
by aztec92154 November 21, 2008 4:25 PM PST
With no wifi, to me, this phone is already obsolete.
by bpob1977 December 21, 2008 10:23 AM PST
Wi-fi is obsolete. Have you ever tried to use wi-fi at a crowded location? Put more than a couple of devices on an access point and it slows to a crawl. Not to mention the security implications.
by inouyde November 21, 2008 9:55 AM PST
The exclusive deal with Verizon also lures those who wanted an iPhone but hated AT&T
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by Adjei2008 November 21, 2008 9:56 AM PST
This has to be one of the most ridicilous posts I've read. So if Apple released the update on the day the Storm had been released in the UK, would they have been scared then? What if they released the update yesterday, would they still have been scared. Already the Storm has been hit with bad reviews. "Iphone killer" indeed.
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by mrcockrell November 21, 2008 10:20 AM PST
no because the UK market is no where near as important, the US market is much bigger and the US is what they consider a trend setting market

in other words nothing that happens with the UK market effects the US market trends enough to care about, but what happens with the US market ultimately effects the market trends all over the world

but yes the article is ridiculous

i don't think apple is scared they are just doing what they do, strategic marketing as usual
by dragonbite November 21, 2008 10:23 AM PST
I think one thing about it is that Apple has been very precise with their announcements and releases. They have historically planned their releases and statements to upstage Microsoft announcments when able to.

If they were anybody else, who doesn't have a reputation with surgically-precise marketing announcements then this would be a non-issue.
by johnqh November 21, 2008 9:58 AM PST
If Apple is really concerned about Storm, it would have released the update YESTERDAY, not today.

CNET articles are really laughable this days.
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by fishstick_kitty November 21, 2008 10:02 AM PST
The guy who wrote this article sounds like a freaking tool.
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by thesledman November 21, 2008 11:41 AM PST
Exactly! This guy doesn't even attempt to hide his bias. Running scared? really? sure about that? Lets not forget that Rim didn't see Apple as a threat in the hand held market, and now that they are getting spanked they develop a touch screen only phone. Sounds like someones scared alright. Oh, Microsoft created the Zune as an iPod killer. Better features, built in radio etc. yeah, worked out real good for them.
by clamenza November 21, 2008 2:52 PM PST
thesledman, you may not realize it but that's also a comment about apple fanboyism.
by randysn November 21, 2008 10:03 AM PST
Exactly, canagica. RIM released the BB Storm without WiFi, that is the true killer. I love my BB Curve, but I really wanted a Storm until I found out there was no WiFi.

I want to surf the net at 50Mbs rather than 3Mbs when at a conference or work or home or out getting coffee. The real reason for the no WiFi, I'm almost positive, is because Verizon didn't want their customers using VoIP...Then, why the hell did RIM go with Verizon? I want to be able to use VoIP porgrams while in my house, because reception sucks on all carriers. (and I live in the city of Chicago).

Then the fact that they have released so few phones to stores today is another mystery...I think they could have had an iPhone killer, but they don't.

Which I think is sad, I would have bought it today. :(
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by scottdn November 21, 2008 10:40 AM PST
Who is offering 50Mbs internet and how do I get it?
by rapier1 November 21, 2008 10:55 AM PST
Ummm... a lot of people. Just not to a large portion of the consumer/household market at this time. Many corporations are buying hundreds of Mb of connectivity. Gb internet connections are falling in price dramatically as well. Basically, if you have N or G wifi and the upstream connection is sufficiently fast there is no reason why you couldn't get 50Mbs over wifi on a cell phone (modulo internal I/O constraints).
by rvassar November 21, 2008 10:04 AM PST
I think RIM is more scared of Apple than Apple is of RIM

Stupid article
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by rutski November 21, 2008 12:36 PM PST
easy apple ***.
by kthhrrsn November 21, 2008 10:04 AM PST
I've been waiting for the Storm to come out for several months now. I've been using BlackBerry for several years now and resisted the temptation to move to the iPhone. The initial release didn't support corporate email access and the 2nd generation doesn't do as good a job as RIM's products (no synchronization of Tasks or Notepad on the iPhone, which I use a lot). Additionally, I carry 2 spare batteries for my BlackBerry when I travel because I'm constantly on the phone and using the media player. A removable battery is an absolute must for such powerful devices like the Storm & iPhone. I think it's short sighted of Apple not to design iPhone w/a removable battery. And I'm not crazy about iTunes purchases since most of them don't play on other MP3 players (unless you pay extra for the few songs that have no DRM). I'm a combination business & personal user of my BlackBerry (a super-user, if you will). I'll gladly stay with RIM, especially now that they have a competitive product to the iPhone.
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by sythara November 21, 2008 10:17 AM PST
You're absolutely right. Just as with any Apple products, iPhone is a fisher price version of a smart phone. A "super user" wants freedom and functionality, not cutesy icons and propriatery everything.
by Wingsy November 21, 2008 11:19 AM PST
Pssst! Hey kthhrssn, iTunes has been selling DRM free songs at the same price as DRM songs for quite a while now (a year?). They're also encoded at 256kbps (AAC) vs the MP3 usual rate of 128k.
by lantzn November 21, 2008 11:59 AM PST
Give it up sythara, you're such a tool. There really is no need to bash Apple products. The iPhone is running a version of OS X and can run circles around the others. Same with their computers. Quite spreading the FUD.
by sythara November 21, 2008 12:25 PM PST
@ lantzn

yes, run circles indeed. And I'm not bashing apple products, just iPhone.

I love my iPod Nano.
by sharmajunior November 22, 2008 3:17 PM PST
Apple does have an iPhone version with a removeable battery. Its being sold in Europe. Its pretty simple because European law states that any device that contains a rechargeable battery also has to be removeable battery for the customer's convenience. That's why I got my iPhone from Europe. Unlocked and I can use any software I want instead of Apple controlling me and my phone (Except for Flash a critical component in this world). FCC has to implement this law in order for Apple to take these steps. Otherwise they'll keep charging you for something that is free. This idea of an internal battery was implemented before by Motorola, but failed miserably.
by jhawk95 November 21, 2008 10:05 AM PST
Don,

Your comments and deductions are idiotic if not plan out ludicrous. Isn't there anything else for you to write about today.

Every major comparison of these two phones so far shows that the Storm is far superior to the iPhone and is just another "Me Too" wanna be version of the iPhone.

On top of that, Verizon has cripled this phone so much it is not even funny.... well actually it is quite funny.

Where are the 1000's of cool applications for this phone, where is the WiFi, even their new commercial for this is just plain silly.

Don, if these are the kind of articles you are going to write, I would stick to writing about the Flowbee 2000.
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by tgilino November 21, 2008 10:30 AM PST
"Every major comparison of these two phones so far shows that the Storm is far superior to the iPhone and is just another "Me Too" wanna be version of the iPhone."

I sense a quantum conumdrum in your statement.
by jhawk95 November 21, 2008 10:56 AM PST
Oops, I meant to say that the Storm is "INFERIOR" to the iPhone.
by josejrp November 21, 2008 10:06 AM PST
"let's face it -- the number of shortcomings in the iPhone 3G far outweigh those found in the Storm."

Based on the reviews I've read, the Storm has a hard to use screen that you have to actually click (slowing typing down), poor predictive typing, a browser that is still not on par with Safari, some programs that are not fluid or designed for a touchscreen, no WiFi, and syncing software that does not even begin to compare with the iTunes ecosystem... but, it does have Copy and Paste. Whoopie.
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by Kev_Orng November 21, 2008 10:08 AM PST
The lack of WiFi is a downer.

I've always been a Mac fan, and I've never owned a Blackberry. The iPhone made me consider a smart phone (but then I had a little lie-down and the crazy went away), but if I were to choose one, I'd be hard pressed. Because as an iPod Touch owner I know that the iPhone is pretty darn cool. But as a resident of Waterloo, living a stone's throw from the RIM campus, I want RIM to be wildly successful, because they employ a lot of my friends and family; they give back to the community (a lot, too) and they have helped attract a booming tech industry (including Google's Canadian office) to the city; which in turn employs some more of my family and friends, and means that my company has a whole lot of business that is going to keep me employed for the foreseeable future, economic downturn be damned.

So that's why, if I ever go crazy and decide I need a smartphone, I'll be a Mac user with a Blackberry. But in reality, I'm a pay as you go kind of guy.
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by Lipmonger November 21, 2008 10:10 AM PST
The Storm truly makes me consider buying out my AT&T contract and ditching the iPhone. From repeated dropped calls, lack of MMS, lack of tethering, lack of landscape typing, lack of copy/paste, and garbage battery life (and NO replaceable battery)... I'm more than willing to trade-off WiFi to get a phone that has these features. I use my cell phone as a phone, messaging and scheduling device - the glamorous iPod and Video Apps on the iPhone do nothing for me.

Furthermore, Apple's unwillingness to incorporate Apps that have been in high demand since the product's launch 18 months ago (landscape keyboard, MMS, copy-paste?!?!) demonstrate a company attitude that does not care at all about what its customers want, or is completely out of touch with its customer base. Either way, it's a pathetic display of how Apple customer support operates.

RIM just delivered a phone that works, and provides practical mobile services and Apps that the typical cell phone user demands. I'll wait for the early reviews to come in, but RIM and Verizon may have just won my business. I'm sick of "hoping" for adequate updates from Apple.
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by Adjei2008 November 21, 2008 10:26 AM PST
The reviews are already out and it's a failure. No iphone killer buddy.
by Lipmonger November 21, 2008 10:54 AM PST
Not looking for an iPhone killer Mr. Adjei2008... just looking for a phone that does what I need it to. After 6 months of unsatisfactory experiences with the iPhone I'm willing to give RIM a try. I don't need a phone that makes everyone else happy - I just need a phone that makes me happy.

But thanks for caring, buddy.
by ballmerisanape November 21, 2008 11:26 AM PST
There is an app called "EasyWriter" (free) that gives you a landscape keyboard. There are also multiple messaging/MMS applications. No copy an paste though. You really should take advantage of the app store... Also.. that little update today should take care of your dropped calls issue.
by Alex Alexzander November 21, 2008 12:42 PM PST
I dropped the iPhone a couple months ago for a moto q with WinMobile. 6.1. Not as pretty as the iPhone, but it gets the job done where as the iPhone didn't even come close.

Drop the iPhone. You'll be amazed at how good it feels to have a phone that actually works again.

Alex Alexzander
by Lipmonger November 21, 2008 2:23 PM PST
ballmerisanape,

Thanks for the tips, but the idea of having to add all of these separate Apps for basic functionality really irks me. Also, the only fully functional MMS App requires jail-breaking my iPhone, which I'm not interested in dealing with. With tethering, landscape typing, copy-paste, and MMS all features that are NATIVE to the Storm... it's hard for me to ignore.

If Apple threw us a bone by providing native MMS and landscape typing (in BOTH email AND MMS) in this latest firmware update, I would've considered sticking around to see how the iPhone evolved. However, they've jerked customers like me around one too many times by keeping these basic Apps away from the iPhone.

Verizon... here I come.
by hlk99 November 21, 2008 3:37 PM PST
Oh come on. Quit complaining about the iPhone and go buy your Storm. Quit complaining and move on. But lets be realistic here. Next month. It will be something else.
by Lipmonger November 21, 2008 7:24 PM PST
hlk99 - Did I strike a nerve? Are you angry that your iPhone doesn't have the basic features of 99% of other phones? I know I am!!! Don't take your aggression out on me just because I decided to go buy a phone that provides basic cell phone features.

And you're wrong... next month there won't be a new thing; because MMS, tethering, and removable batteries are actually quite old technologies.
by November 24, 2008 6:32 AM PST
Lipmonger... why did you buy the iPhone in the first place if these things are that important to you?

Tethering is coming btw, AT&T has already announced that. I'd also like to add on thing that the storm cant do, is get on an hour long phone call and still deliver your email, or allow you to browse. Far outweight MMS if you ask me. OH, better yet, I can just attach the picture I'd otherwise MMS, to an email while I'm on a phone call.
by Perry_Clease November 21, 2008 10:11 AM PST
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by Get_Bent November 21, 2008 9:58 AM PST
"it is now easy for everyone to copy Apple's ideas and come up with their own version."

Just like Apple copied Xerox PARC's ideas and came up with their own version.... Much of the progress in computing involves improvements and derivatives of existing ideas."

Apple paid Zerox for that, but we all follow in the footsteps of others.
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by Penguinisto November 21, 2008 10:11 AM PST
Well Don, eyeballing it from the Enterprise side of things, here's what I'm seeing...

Disclosure: I would happily dig up a corpse and desecrate it in any way or method my employer's CEO wants me to, if doing so meant that I could get rid of BES server (and its licensing costs) ASAP. I'm very sure that I'm not the only sysadmin (or CIO, or...) who would do the very same thing if the option were presented. Not because BES is evil (though it is at times), but because it's an added expense when there's really no need for it, technically (MS Exchange is expensive enough, kiddies...)

Right now, execs are getting cozy with the iPhone and (for the most part, though admittedly purely anecdotal) liking what they see.

As for the Storm? Nice concept, though even CNET has panned it in reviews.

CNETs recent not-so-shiny review of the Storm aside, it seems that every time someone (who isn't Apple) coughs up a touchscreen smartphone, it's an "iPhone Killar!!!11!!111OMGWTFBBQ!" Just like every time someone coughs up a PMP, it's suddenly an "iPod Killar!!!11!!!OMGPONIES!"

Sometimes it's like the tech opinionating crowd had graduated from The Pavlov School of Journalism or something.

Seriously - Apple isn't afraid, if the iPhone's growth curve (damned near veritcal) and impending marketshare dominance is any indication. It makes sense to keep ahead, but that's not a sign of fear - it's a sign of keeping ahead.

OTOH, one could make the logical argument that RIM's push-out of a pure touchscreen Blackberry (after years of saying they'd never consider such a "toy") is one hell of a sign of fear on RIM's part... and for good reason, considering that Apple is poised to obliterate them.

/P
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by stigmattaman November 21, 2008 10:52 AM PST
Don't know if their growth curve is vertical. Think about it: the last quarter was insanely successful for Apple, but would they have done that without the new version? The spike is for the iPhone 3G release, and will be tough to replicate. Ah well, let's take bets on what next year's version will be.

With that said, I love my iPhone 3G but do miss cut and paste.
by Penguinisto November 21, 2008 11:46 AM PST
Not 100% sure if they would have or not, though indications are they probably would have still kept very close to it.

In less than two years, the iPhone has managed to obliterate 8 (9 or 10?) years' worth of work that Windows Mobile put into building their global marketshare, and 4-5 years' worth of effort that RIM put into being #1 in North America. Even Symbian is looking at Apple with a somewhat nervous eye these days...
by MobileAdmin November 21, 2008 12:27 PM PST
Sure you could dump the BES but then I guess you have no need for the device management and security policies it provides.

Reality is BES is still the lowest TCO as with Windows Mobile you need to buy ANOTHER product to effectively equal the management of the devices (read more money) and with iPhone you pretty much have no management other then force password / timeout and remote wipe. Which once your saavy users jailbreak said iPhone can disable your ActiveSync policy.

Good luck with that.
by Penguinisto November 21, 2008 12:55 PM PST
@MobileAdmin: I agree perfectly WRT Windows Mobile...

...OTOH, there's only one real security policy that's necessary from my POV: removing access to sensitive docs and email if the phone gets stolen or lost (anything else is pretty much useless). Doing this is as simple as disabling mobile access to the mailbox and/or public folders that the thing accesses, which can be done right at the Exchange server. Or, as you've already indicated, change the password and wipe the thing remotely, and you're done. So why do I need a separate server and toolkit for that?

As for device management, that's easier than you think: it's not like iPhone users are going to chuck in unsigned apps or trade apps that haven't already been tested and approved by Apple (same story with RIM, actually). The rest starts delving into micromanagement, something that more often than not means more work than benefit...

/P
by MobileAdmin November 21, 2008 1:28 PM PST
The server provides a number of things beyond the basic security. I need to actively monitor usage of our 4,000 devices to validate we are spending our money properly. Do you know how many users are given a device and they only use it "when they travel"? $carrier plan$ x number of users who don't actively use the device = wasted company $$$$. Sure if it's your own device I could care less if you use it or not but when we foot the bill it better be used.

Sadly in the large corporate world the need is there to "micromanage" what can and cannot be on a device be it a laptop, desktop or mobile device and having control of that is desired. Apple would gain points seperating the device from iTunes and the Appstore as the majority of large companies don't care if their users can download the latest flashlight app.
by Penguinisto November 21, 2008 3:51 PM PST
Neat feature and all, but it can be just as easily done by comparing the cellie bill (which you can usually get as a spreadsheet, often you can get metrics prepared for you from the vendor's website) with established policies...

I don't need to pay RIM $$$$ per annum just to write a quick spreadsheet macro/script to sort the raw bill, or to leaf through the carriers' report pages/scripts on my corp's account page...

As for the apps, sure - but that's the same story with laptops and etc. Good luck with that - it usually fails (or gets punched full of holes by CxO, IT and exec types) no matter what kit you choose.
by robjennings November 21, 2008 10:11 AM PST
2.2 is a minor update and I hardly think that Apple considers its release a warning shot to RIM. By the way, it's "they're that naive," not "there that naive."
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by Djcalderone November 21, 2008 10:11 AM PST
The biggest and real advantage is security. Blackberry is secure and iPhone is not. Buisness and the military use the Blackberry for that function.
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by wedge07 November 21, 2008 11:23 AM PST
Uh, DJ? The military used (yes, there are organizations that have been given the green on iPhone) it because it was the only option for a securable, "home-away-from-home" e-mail device that Commanders could keep tabs of their underlings. The same locks and kill switches that exist on the BB are there in some shape or form on the iPhone. Having used both BB and iPhone, and having read Storm-related articles on Time, PC World, The Chicago Tribune, Gizmodo and Engadget, it seems plausible that the Storm will go the way of the Zune. Too little, too late (the first-gen iPhone was better that this offering and 1.5 years earlier). I'm no Nostradamus, but the only folks I see buying this are those pissed off at AT&T for past experiences or really pissed at Apple ("what, no copy/paste?") because they love to hate Apple. Oh, and one more thing... Don, you're an idiot.
by Seaspray0 November 22, 2008 7:34 AM PST
Try again, wedge07. The iphone is NOT a secure device to be using for email. If you lose your phone, the "locks" can be bypassed. It also doesn't have the ability to be remotely locked and erase itself. The blackberry does. Even though it now has active sync, corporations are still not allowing them for SECURITY reasons but have no issues with blackberry. Don is not the idiot.
by Penguinisto November 22, 2008 8:30 AM PST
@Seaspray: You only need rig the phone to not store data offline. If/when the phone gets lost/stolen, you call the sysadmin and he locks the account or changes the password to it. Voila' - no more mail access.

BTW - the iPnone actually does have remote lock/wipe capabilities.

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by ballmerisanape November 21, 2008 10:12 AM PST
typical CNet hit-piece. seriously. This article is ridiculous... and you snagged my hock, line, and sinker. Thanks for lowering my IQ.
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by depotwest November 21, 2008 10:16 AM PST
Wow. What an article. I cannot believe people get paid to write stuff like this.

Apple has set the bar, Rim's the one that needs to reach it. A new phone without wifi? Really? Really?
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by pjhenry1216 November 21, 2008 11:44 AM PST
A new phone without MMS? Really? Really?

Seriously, phones have had MMS a LOT longer than they've had WiFi. *CHEAP* phones have MMS. Non-smartphones have MMS. I consider the lack of MMS a bigger fault than not having WiFi. Maybe Mac fans are used to drinking at Starbucks and being on WiFi all the time, but honestly, WiFi isn't that ubiquitous elsewhere. I get WiFi on my iPhone at home and at work. The Storm can still get on the internet without WiFi. The iPhone is screwed when trying to get an MMS. It *requires* you go to an actual computer. I can't tell you how often I get a "So and so sent you a Multimedia Message. Go to viewmymessage.com blah blah blah".
by ecolon42 November 21, 2008 11:45 AM PST
Give me.................................... MMS MMS MMS MMS MMS MMS MMS
COPY & PASTE COPY & PASTE COPY & PASTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WIFI overated.
by mr_pickles November 21, 2008 12:23 PM PST
Yup, and sold out all over the country. Mobile broadband is the future, wifi is old news, we all have unlimited data plans. Once an iPhone has the security and corporate email integration that Blackberry has been providing for a decade we can even BEGIN to consider an iPhone. Until then it's relegated to hip consumer device. Ironically, one without a removable battery, expandable memory, an inferior camera (without video), no MMS, the list goes on.

So yes, we can live without wifi. I'm amazed iphone owners can live without all the rest of the features provided by the Storm.
by metroid5000 November 21, 2008 1:55 PM PST
Agreed. Lame opinion piece.

Could it be that MMS is the dinaosaur here? I can take a photo and send it in email to anyone. If their "SmartPhone" can't rcv an email with a photo in it, that's not a fault of the iPhone.

I find it hard to believe that very many of the 6 million who bought iPhones last quarter are going to dump them for Storms or anything less than say and open source cell phone, carrier neutral (and supported!) multi-touch interface personal communication device, that happens to play tunes, with unlimited data for $40/month.

The point is that folks will whine about what ISN'T in the iPhone as a way of licking their bruised egos.
by Groovydude November 23, 2008 7:55 PM PST
iPhone is a great piece of technology. But there's stuff that fall short that was totally expected, that even the old Windows Mobile had for ages. metroid5000: you are pushing the fact that mms is a dinosaur un-needed feature, yet copy-paste is a dinosaur needed feature and apple felt you didn't need it for your iphone. Nobody is having a bruised ego, it's fact that Apple is pushing the iphone as a business model, but it doesn't deliver for business users needs. I feel there's some truth to this article, the iPhone 3g is almost a year old, and they need new stuff to reinvent the MacWheel and give it some spotlight.
by Venkatasiva08 November 21, 2008 10:19 AM PST
Apple should not be worried about RIM at all. Apple should be worried about Nokia. Did the cnet guys check out N71. Except for a touch screen it has everything under the sun and it looks damn cool and an unlocked one comes at about $350 with no strings attached.
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by Groovydude November 23, 2008 7:56 PM PST
Cnet's reviews are totally over-rated and the editor seems to lack actual tech experience.
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