August 7, 2009 7:07 AM PDT

Blogger touts SharePoint, but uses Drupal

by Matt Asay
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Baris Wanschers has posted a great review of 10 cool Web sites running Microsoft SharePoint, apparently to prove how good SharePoint is as a Web publishing tool. But I can't help but smile at the irony that Wanschers' site runs Drupal, not SharePoint.

Wanschers writes:

Because so many friends and colleagues of [mine] think of SharePoint as a boring, team-site-only Document Management System I decided to show them some great-looking SharePoint publishing sites and prove them otherwise.

He then provides several examples (Ferrari, Starbucks, and more), but the best counterexample to his post is the "paper" his post is written on: Drupal, an excellent open-source Web content management and publishing system.

To be fair, Wanschers describes himself as both a SharePoint and Drupal developer, so it's natural that he use both (though his blog has exclusively covered SharePoint since its March 2009 launch). But for me it's instructive that however much he may talk about SharePoint as a Web publishing tool, Drupal is what he actually uses to do the job.

Actions speak louder than words.

He's not alone. In fact, with over 1 million downloads each year, it's safe to say that Wanschers is in good company in preferring Drupal for Web publishing. FedEx, Nike, R.E.M., and many others share Wanschers' preference for Drupal for Web publishing.

Disclosure: My company, Alfresco, both partners and competes with Microsoft SharePoint and Drupal.


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Matt Asay brings a decade of in-the-trenches open-source business and legal experience to The Open Road, with an emphasis on emerging open-source business strategies and opportunities. Matt is vice president of business development at Alfresco, a company that develops open-source software for content management. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure. You can follow Matt on Twitter @mjasay.
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by David Arbogast August 7, 2009 7:35 AM PDT
Oh please... your entire post is about a developer who uses one system and writes about another? did it occur to you that while there is some overlap in the capabilities of these systems, they are not the same beast? He doesn't use SharePoint for blogging... really? Who does? Baris needs a blog site... go to his site and look at it. SharePoint is massive overkill for what he's doing. SharePoint was not designed just to be a blog site. This is nothing but an advertisement for Drupal, that puts a slight negative spin on Microsoft products and developers. How does stuff like this make it on to CNet? Is this a paid advertising blog post??
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by FutureGuy August 7, 2009 10:54 AM PDT
This post is like a car enthusiast blogging about how great Ferrari is but driving to work in a Kia.
by mdda123 August 8, 2009 9:53 AM PDT
This post is like a car enthusiast blogging about how great [something expensive] is but driving to work in [something better, but free, and environmentally friendly].
by yoguimaster August 7, 2009 7:57 AM PDT
Well. I hate to be the devil's advocate here, but Sharepoint is the direct competition of Alfresco, your own comercial open-source product, not so much drupal's competition.

I thing Sharepoint is no good but compare apples and bananas isn't the answer
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by FutureGuy August 7, 2009 10:56 AM PDT
I guess he got a free platform to bash his main competitor, nice work Matt.
by Super2online August 7, 2009 7:59 AM PDT
While Drupal may boast 1 million downloads per year, my question is- can it match the "One Billion" dollars in profits that SharePoint brings in every year? I doubt it! Besides, SharePoint goes way beyond blogging. In fact, if blogging is all you want, SharePoint is not an optimum option. However, SharePoint 2010 may change that.
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by mdda123 August 8, 2009 9:59 AM PDT
I think you're mixing up 'good' with 'profit'. The success of an open source project is really measured by how much people benefit from using it, not by how much the writers make from it.

I"m not trying to say that open source is inherently anti-capitalist (if companies can make money from it, so much the better). But, for instance, 'love' or 'happiness' are free - that doesn't make them worth less than buying happiness in a bottle...
by fortyonejb August 7, 2009 8:05 AM PDT
What excellent use of CNET resources. Attempt to dissuade people from using your competition not by the merits of your own application, but by some totally absurd notion that because some other nameless developer blogged about your competition and has a blog on another platform. Wow, you've won me over, I guess I just won't use SharePoint now! /sarcasm
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by hassan14_pk August 7, 2009 8:06 AM PDT
seriously you are comparing sharepoint with drupal....wow CNET seriously needs some tech savvy people.
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by BarkerDigital August 7, 2009 8:11 AM PDT
For sure.
by James7777777 August 7, 2009 8:09 AM PDT
I don't know, here you are touting the pluses of Drupal, but you aren't USING Drupal. Big of the pot and kettle thing going on here.
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by AndrewFreestyle August 7, 2009 8:23 AM PDT
And most of Microsoft's own public facing community sites (wikis/blogs/forums) either use Community Server or their own Social platform (as on MSDN), not Sharepoint.

But there's a good reason. They're using the right product for the right job at the right price point. Shock horror, Microsoft and members of their developer ecosystem don't have to always use Microsoft products. Perhaps it's a good thing. We learn about other tools too.

I unsubscribed from the influential 37signals blogs some time ago because of the pointless jibes at Microsoft but praise only for open source and Rails. This blog often sounds very similarly closed minded.
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by alflanagan August 7, 2009 8:24 AM PDT
Sharepoint is not a "boring, team-site-only Document Management System". It is an "overly-complicated but under-featured, hard-to-use, bug-ridden excuse for a shared storage system." Just a minor technical correction there.
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by PirateEric August 7, 2009 8:25 AM PDT
Wow, that's pretty irresponsible to post. Do you know how many Sharepoint blogs are on Blogspot? One of the highest rated websites for Sharepoint, Endusersharepoint.com runs on Wordpress. My personal Sharepoint blog runs on Wordpress.

It isn't about the platform, it's about the content. Pretty tasteless to attack someone in this fashion.
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by MadLyb August 7, 2009 8:38 AM PDT
Sorry Matt, but this was an epic fail and kind of petty.

First using Sharepoint to publish a blog would like using Photoshop to just rotate your pictures to the right orientation.

Next, perhaps Drupal is just what is offered by his hosting provider and he may be limited in provider selection by other factors not available to you.

I use both MS and Open Source products in conducting my business, with our external systems mainly being Linux, Apache, etc. and our Internal components primarily being MS and those decisions are based on *actual* business needs, not some friggin' high minded ideals. So, if you want to call me hypocrite for liking, and even espousing, some MS products but using Open Source as well, then my opinion of you has dropped to zero because you just become another Fanboi and hater in my eyes.

And if you consider this to be a personal attack, then go back and read your column again. I was much nicer.
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by rapier1 August 7, 2009 8:44 AM PDT
Matt, seriously, you need to get over yourself. I know that shy retiring people don't become bloggers but your simple minded 'gotchas' are just getting ridiculous now. You and I both know that you are trying to set Wanschers up as being hypocritical but in truth he's just using the most appropriate tool for the job at hand. Computer professionals *know* that software and systems are just tools to get a specific job done and that they aren't religions. That you don't seem to understand this tells me a lot about you.
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by sodablue August 7, 2009 8:56 AM PDT
Thanks for pointing me to Baris Wanschers blog. I'm familiar with Sharepoint, but as his post mentions... mostly as a crappy team document repository. I was not aware you could do so much with it.
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by robinmeure August 7, 2009 8:57 AM PDT
I actually know Baris personally and he both likes the SharePoint and Drupal platform. Aside of this, I think it's really unfair of you that without his permission you are blogging about his 'personal favor' ..
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by draokx August 7, 2009 9:33 AM PDT
As many have said in the comments already, pretty poor form attacking someone for making an already obvious choice on what platform to blog with. We all can poke jabs with the differences and problems of each platform all day. Matt, your just throwing the same tired old OSS vs CSS punchs. Only this time, your making yourself look like a pompous misguided fool. Baris chose to run his own site with software that was 1) Free, 2) Fit the needs of what he was doing. Having worked with both Drupal and SharePoint, I love both, but if the money is coming out of my pocket, you bet your @$$ I'm going with Drupal. I love SharePoint but the cost in licensing and/or hosting it can be too much for some people to justify to use as a personal site.
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by msjonker August 7, 2009 9:35 AM PDT
Does this blog use Drupal? If not, how ironic...
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by DavidL65 August 7, 2009 9:41 AM PDT
Sooooo.... your editor needed you to post something and you just kind of pulled this one out of your rear end, eh?
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by Random_Walk August 7, 2009 10:01 AM PDT
Wow... lookit the pile of Microsoft/SharePoint fanboys coming out of the woodwork!

I actually thought it was funny, and c'mon, kids - Matt was fair about it (he could've just shouted j'accuse! and not mentioned the duality involved).

Drupal can be expanded to do most of what SharePoint does (if suitably modified), and SharePoint can be expanded to do most of what Drupal does (ditto).

OTOH, if you're going to outright evangelize about something? It kinda helps to -- as Steve Ballmer Hisself puts it -- eat your own dogfood, yanno?

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But Matt... you missed a perfect opportunity to do something: to better open a dialogue about the relative usefulness of the two suites or their applicability across SMB and enterprise, and not just about sermon vs. habit. ;)
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by rapier1 August 7, 2009 10:27 AM PDT
I can always count on you for witty and insightful commentary. Your singled minded consistency is a marvel to behold.
by Random_Walk August 7, 2009 1:21 PM PDT
Sorry kid, but there's no fanboyism on my part here. Sorry if it struck a nerve, but seriously - read your posts in here sometime. ;)
by rapier1 August 7, 2009 1:45 PM PDT
Yeah, I'm huge fanboy as I write this on my mac, ssh'd into a few linux boxes, developing under apache and mysql, and listening to my zune. I'm *all* about brand loyalty.
by gggg sssss August 7, 2009 4:02 PM PDT
@Random whatever - so how much do you like Apple's CMS? What they dont have one? Sad isnt it?
by No Man August 7, 2009 10:08 AM PDT
Every couple months I think to myself, "Matt Asay's articles can't be as bad as I remember them. Let's give him another try..."

Yup. Just as bad.
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by doookiekillz August 8, 2009 2:13 PM PDT
I second that!
by TX-Sunset August 7, 2009 10:10 AM PDT
Why is this even news????
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by cacharbe August 7, 2009 10:45 AM PDT
Coming up next, Local Machete manufacturer fails to us own tools during sensitive eye surgery. After the break, we'll discuss how to wash your infant in HCL...the gentle way.

What an idiot.
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