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June 18, 2009 1:03 AM PDT

Microsoft beating Mozilla...in open-source licensing

by Matt Asay
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Microsoft's Internet Explorer continues to hemorrhage market share to Mozilla's open-source Firefox browser. But Microsoft is set to surpass Mozilla in one area: adoption of its open-source Microsoft Public License (MS-PL), according to research from Black Duck Software.

The MS-PL is now used by 1.02 percent of open-source projects. This is impressive given that it was only approved by the Open Source Initiative some two years ago. The Mozilla Public License (MPL), by contrast, has been around for many more years and is used by 1.25 percent of open-source projects, ranking ninth in terms of popularity. MS-PL is 10th but is gaining fast.

It's a matter of coloring inside the CodePlex lines.

The MPL offers some benefits over its long-serving peers like the GNU General Public License (50.17 percent market share), but often the benefits are outweighed by the sheer momentum of the GPL. Whatever its deficiencies, the GPL is a relatively well-understood license.

For those developers looking to go "off-piste" with a different license, and particularly for those with a Microsoft inclination--as is the case with Microsoft open-source code hosting repository CodePlex--it's far easier to opt to do so with the MS-PL versus the MPL, the Eclipse Public License, or another license.

As CodePlex continues to gain in popularity, I expect we'll see the MS-PL push past MPL and potentially even past the MIT License, which currently ranks seventh at 3.79 percent share. When that happens, it will be a sign that Microsoft has truly arrived as an open-source player.

Of course, I suspect that Microsoft would rather beat Mozilla in browser market share than in license market share. But you can't have everything, now can you?


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Matt Asay brings a decade of in-the-trenches open-source business and legal experience to The Open Road, with an emphasis on emerging open-source business strategies and opportunities. Matt is vice president of business development at Alfresco, a company that develops open-source software for content management. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure. You can follow Matt on Twitter @mjasay.
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by jharrop2 June 18, 2009 5:43 AM PDT
Hi Matt

I think a first sign that MS is understanding the benefits of open source will be when they make the simple step of having an open bug tracking system (granted, this is openness in general, though it is a characteristic associated with OSS). How odd is it that in 2009, there is still no obvious way to search for bugs in say Microsoft Office, much less log a new bug in a way that other people can comment on?

A further sign will be when instead of just killing products (i think it was Money, this week), they open source them, so that they can live on.

A license itself is neither here nor there. Its more talking the talk than walking the walk - its the organisations choosing to release under the license who are walking the walk!
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by Seaspray0 June 18, 2009 8:42 AM PDT
Money may contain proprietary source code which is still used by other microsoft programs. I can see them giving the program away for free rather than release that code to open source. Perhaps the MS-PL could be the solution to that delima.
by lennie22 June 18, 2009 10:06 AM PDT
since they just stop selling the software (or as you put it killed it) it would be silly for them to just open the source to the program because it is still used by many bussiness. If they open the source to the app and holes are found who's to say they wouldn't be exploited?

you might come up with the cliche "it is OSS so other people will find the bug too"....what I alwayssay to this statement is that it is not always true, and by the time a patch is developed thousands or millions of the apps users have already been compromsed and millions of dollars losts. I would say wait many years down the line when you're sure no one is using the app anymore to release the source.
by Random_Walk June 18, 2009 12:00 PM PDT
"by the time a patch is developed thousands or millions of the apps users have already been compromsed and millions of dollars losts."

...and you have evidence of this? I'd love to see it.
by lennie22 June 18, 2009 12:19 PM PDT
@random_walk:

calm down, its looking at a possible scenario....one I think MSFT would want to stay as far away from as possible because it would be a major disaster for the company PR and credibility wise as they're still responible.
by JimMinHayward June 18, 2009 3:14 PM PDT
Why would Microsoft do ANYTHING for the good of their consumer? Once they get their money Microsoft turns a blind eye. Microsoft actually thought they could put Quicken out of business with their MS money. Now they no they can't and so they ditch all the customers they conned into buying the product. Typical MS. Hope you all learn something before it's too late!
by odubtaig June 21, 2009 3:47 AM PDT
Off the top of my head, neither Java nor Blender had an explosion of security problems when they were open sourced. Nor did Untangle, which is a security product itself.

This is speculation without substantiation. It has no basis in fact and no basis in theory. It's an entirely fear based claim with no analysis with a background that there have been no reports of any product suffering from security problems once open sourced.

I think the real problem MS have is even if they open sourced Money, they'd still have to be the maintainers which would mean they were still spending money on it.
by tasehagi June 18, 2009 7:51 AM PDT
this is very beautifully put, jharrop2

A license itself is neither here nor there. Its more talking the talk than walking the walk - its the organisations choosing to release under the license who are walking the walk!
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by FreeBSD4me June 18, 2009 8:34 AM PDT
Is your next article going to be about how the Microsoft Zune is hemorrhaging the MP3 player market?
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by lennie22 June 18, 2009 11:21 AM PDT
I'm a Zune owner...but I would also like to know how much money the zune is costing MSFT
by Kalemanzi June 18, 2009 10:58 AM PDT
Microsoft is about making money. They will go there where they can make money. I don't recall MS ever being about empowering end users. If MS makes a move, it involves money. In this case it smells to me like they want to use the open source community to work on stuff and gain from that. The classic "Pirates of Silicon Valley" comes to mind. Interesting article. Thanks.
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by lennie22 June 18, 2009 11:19 AM PDT
so is every other company that is out there trying to make money.....what really is your point?
by shikarishambu June 18, 2009 7:22 PM PDT
Personally, I don't think any other company has done anything close to what Microsoft has done in empowering the users. They made money by ensuring that "A computer on every desk and in every home running microsoft software." And, IBM was an accidental partner to this effort.
by Aaron Kempf June 18, 2009 2:08 PM PDT
firefox sucks.. it gives non-stop errors.. and it is slower than IE.

please kick this author out of the media-- he has no touch with reality.
Just because you think that it's trendy-- doesn't mean it's more popular.

90% of our clients use Internet Explorer and not firefox.. so I really don't know what you're talking about.
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by FreeBSD4me June 18, 2009 9:46 PM PDT
Aaron, you are silly.

IE
http://secunia.com/advisories/graph/?type=imp&period=all&prod=12366

Firefox
http://secunia.com/advisories/graph/?type=imp&period=all&prod=19089

The funny thing is, Internet Exploder is closed-source. Isn't that supposed to be more secure and of better quality? I thought commercial software was better because companies only hire the best programmers and have to provide a quality product to compete unlike those hobbyist open-source programmers.
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by queticomn June 29, 2009 4:38 PM PDT
i was wonder the difference between the GPL license an MS-PL license?
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