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May 28, 2009 10:05 AM PDT

Microsoft gets out of the way of Bing

by Matt Asay
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Microsoft has officially named its next big attempt at squashing Google "Bing." CNET's Ina Fried covered Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer's commentary on Bing at the D: All Things Digital conference on Thursday, but there's one important thing missing from the discussion and, indeed, from Bing itself:

Microsoft.

As I took a spin through the Bing demo, I was surprised by Microsoft's newfound restraint. Bing is...Bing. It's not branded "Microsoft Live Bing" or "Bing by Microsoft." It's just Bing.

Microsoft has a great brand, but it also has a brand that carries a lot of baggage with it, baggage that its search service (or "decision engine," as it describes Bing) really doesn't need. One of the great failings of Microsoft's past search efforts is that Microsoft tried to tie them into the larger Microsoft experience which, it turned out, wasn't helpful. Microsoft's brand is tied up in the desktop. Search is all about the Web.

Not coincidentally, Microsoft's Xbox has been a huge success in large part because it's a distinct brand with a distinct experience, one that doesn't rely on affiliation with Microsoft's desktop hegemony. Microsoft appears to be learning, perhaps with the U.S. Justice Department as its tutor, that tying products together isn't always the best solution.

So...Bing. It's a good name, and looks to be a great experience, one that makes "search" more of a destination, rather than a launch pad, as highlighted in Ballmer's "D" interview with Walt Mossberg. It's a destination that packages pieces of the Web to present a coherent response to search terms, making Bing more of a portal and less of a search engine.

Yes, in true Microsoft fashion, the maps used are provided by Microsoft and there are ties to other Microsoft products. At first blush, however, this doesn't appear to be heavy-handed. It's certainly no different from how Google prefers its own services to those of competitors.

I gave up on Microsoft Live Search long ago. I just might give Bing an extended fling, however, as it seems content to stand or fall on its own merits, not Microsoft's brand.


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Matt Asay brings a decade of in-the-trenches open-source business and legal experience to The Open Road, with an emphasis on emerging open-source business strategies and opportunities. Matt is vice president of business development at Alfresco, a company that develops open-source software for content management. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure. You can follow Matt on Twitter @mjasay.
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by myles taylor May 28, 2009 11:19 AM PDT
You know, I might just give this a shot. It looks like they're learning and doing some things right. The thing is, I don't think they can capture the market and actually make money in search. But it does look interesting.
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by sarah_oneill May 28, 2009 11:22 AM PDT
At least MS is trying to do something different. Brains over brawn? We'll see. Cool article <a href="http://www.atelier-us.com/internet-usage/article/microsoft-livesearch-makes-way-for-newcomer-bing">here</a>: http://www.atelier-us.com/internet-usage/article/microsoft-livesearch-makes-way-for-newcomer-bing
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by sting7k May 28, 2009 11:31 AM PDT
Still confused though. Are they changing LIVE search to Bing? Or is this a totally new search engine in addition to LIVE search?
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by Super2online May 28, 2009 12:21 PM PDT
Live is dead, bing is born!
by Dalkorian May 29, 2009 11:39 AM PDT
It's the same way they're getting out of the deserved bad publicity fista has earned itself by rebranding it as "w7". They still can't pay me to use it.
by Mr. Dee May 28, 2009 11:43 AM PDT
I have to say Matt, I agree with everything you have said. I really hoping this works for Microsoft this time around, because everything so far where Web search is concerned has been abysmal. The aim should be relevant results, better localization.
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by DrtyDogg May 28, 2009 11:52 AM PDT
Microsoft has had some horrid branding problems in the past, .net and live are two examples that stick out I'm still iffy on Zune too. I just don't understand how a company with the resources they have can't market themselves at all. There are some really bright people working at Microsoft, oddly none of them has though to hire someone with similar talents in the PR department.
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by eadeguzman May 29, 2009 6:51 AM PDT
.Net is not a bad brand.

It's not geared for public consumption... only for developers. What's out is that thing called Microsoft DNA... I don't see that "brand" mentioned almost anywhere now.

XBOX is a very good brand (I suppose). Zune, the name itself is not so bad... I think the product packaging hence the product itself was bad. Now with Zune HD, we'll see. If it still does not make a dent on the iPod market share then maybe it is now a bad brand. The iPod name itself sounded strange to me when it first released (i didn't like the word "pod" much). But maybe I, it was just me then... look at how popular and how strong the "iPod" brand is now... Even much stronger than iMac, I believe.
by Super2online May 28, 2009 12:20 PM PDT
It's looks outstanding, but I will reserve judgement after looking at the real thing when it launches.
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by Super2online May 28, 2009 12:25 PM PDT
Watch the video...www.bing.com
by arbulus May 28, 2009 12:45 PM PDT
Microsoft can't seem to get the branding right:

Microsoft Network
MSN
.NET
Live
Bing

And now that they've gone through a reworking of all of their lifestyle applications in the Live world, they kill Live search. Are they planning on once again changing the name of the Live apps? Though, they can't even keep things straight with that. They've a number of sync services, Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail, Microsoft Live Mail (formerly Hotmail) - it's a confusing mess of applications and nomenclature.
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by eadeguzman May 29, 2009 7:11 AM PDT
I don't see the "live" brand fading... It's just not going to be used in search, I suppose. It doesn't make much sense for search to be "live" since "search" is already assumed to be online search... so attaching the word "live" to it doesn't help... "we get it: it's an online app!"

On the other hand, for those services perceived to be desktop applications they want to bring online, it does make sense to attach "live" to it: Windows Live, Office Live (instead of the overused "online" term, as in "Office Online"?)

The jury is till out on those names if they will catch up.

But we are always faced with the question: "what's in a name?" I believe that most of the time, the product makes the brand and not the other way around. And may times it's not reversible. Once a product gets a bad brand, it's very difficult to make it a good one because of the "baggage" this writer is talking about... so you are forced to start over with a new brand... I think that's what Microsoft is trying to do here as pointed out by Matt.

I think this is a departure from the Microsoft we know long time ago. Microsoft Word and Windows were not that popular... But they improved the product and somehow won over users. I guess being second for a long time isn't so bad... in the case of search, they are a *distant* third for a long time.
by umcrouc0 May 28, 2009 1:09 PM PDT
This looks like it might be an alright engine and probably pretty good for people who don't use search engines very often. One thing that's nice about Google is that you can easily restrict searched by category (images, scholar, finance, etc) but it doesn't try to guess what you're looking for too much if you don't restrict the search. It will give you options if you search something but doesn' t really make decisions for you. That's a good thing as normally when software makes decisions for you it's wrong. If bing suggests things but doesn't automatically direct you without confirming that's actually what you want to do it could be pretty good. I haven't seen enough of it yet to see how it's any more useful than Google (just watched the video on the bing website but it's impossible to tell without actually trying it). But it should be worth at least checking out. Maybe it will just be another Cuil.
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by monkeyfun14 May 28, 2009 1:18 PM PDT
I'm quite surprised good article.

Didn't expect a article about Microsoft to come out in such a positive light from you considering everyone is trashing it lol.
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by Matt Asay May 29, 2009 8:13 AM PDT
I actually respect Microsoft tremendously as a company. I don't always agree with business strategies, but I generally respect the technical quality of its products. So, occasionally I let that positive side of my perspective out. :-)
by theantibush May 28, 2009 1:57 PM PDT
Q: do we care?

A: no

bing is bling
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by monkeyfun14 May 28, 2009 3:01 PM PDT
Since when do you speak for everyone?
by t8 May 28, 2009 2:52 PM PDT
Microsoft is wise to not include the name Microsoft in their search. They have finally realized that you can only stretch a name so far before it becomes meaningless and lacking in identity. Also the word Microsoft gives a negative impression for many people.
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by Dalkorian May 29, 2009 11:46 AM PDT
Somehow I doubt hiding the fact that their grubby little fingers are in this one will save it. M$ has worked hard to deserve the reputation they have for being bloated, insecure and useless.
by DigitalAngelic May 28, 2009 4:35 PM PDT
This isn't exactly their "newfound restraint". Just look at Xbox and Zune. :P
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by CDubber May 28, 2009 10:45 PM PDT
Seems a sad commentary on a company when it's better not to associate your name with your products.
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Matt Asay brings a decade of in-the-trenches open-source business and legal experience to the Open Road, with an emphasis on emerging open-source business strategies and opportunities. Matt is general manager of the Americas division and vice president of business development at Alfresco, a company that develops open-source software for content management. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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