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March 30, 2009 6:07 AM PDT

Open Cloud Manifesto's anti-Microsoft bias

by Matt Asay

It turns out that IBM is the company behind the new Open Cloud Manifesto, a document that defines an open, interoperable cloud-computing vision that is so much motherhood and apple pie that few will disagree with its hazy tenets.

However, it's increasingly evident that IBM wants to use the manifesto to rain on Microsoft's own cloud efforts, inviting Microsoft to join the open-cloud party on terms that Microsoft, as well as Amazon.com, Salesforce.com, and Google apparently can't countenance, as ZDNet's Mary Jo Foley reports.

Because of the closed process, as well as some of the tenets of the manifesto, those companies--the world's primary cloud vendors--have thus far declined to sign up. If these bellwethers of cloud computing don't sign, will it matter that a host of small start-ups are set to join Cisco Systems and IBM in signing it? The answer, as Daryl Taft suggests, is "probably not."

It's one thing to be open. It's quite another to actually get used. Open clouds that no one uses are, well, somewhat useless.

It's too bad, because arguably, the Open Cloud Manifesto could have garnered broader support simply by opening up the drafting process, probably resulting in a more inclusive document.

CNET's Ina Fried takes a look at the document and suggests that "it's easy to see how this might prove challenging for those with existing cloud platforms, folks like Amazon and Microsoft," given its emphasis on open source to undergird open clouds.

IBM seems to have crafted the Open Cloud Manifesto in its own image, and then foisted it upon everyone else.

Thus, as ZDNet's Larry Dignan suggests, the manifesto has something of an anti-Microsoft bias, and IBM, which has no great love for Microsoft, almost certainly intended this. In fact, IBM, master of public relations that it is, probably never really intended Microsoft to participate.

All of this makes me wonder if IBM simply meant for the manifesto to be a PR wedge to beat up Microsoft. All's fair in love and standards, and no one uses standards to greater advantage than IBM, but its arguably less-than-open approach to creating an Open Cloud Manifesto could doom the manifesto from the start.

I like the manifesto's tenets, and I agree that without cloud interoperability and open data, we're going to end up re-creating the past two decades' proprietary desktop wars in the cloud. But unless we're willing to not only articulate open principles, but also to create them through an open process, we seem to be doomed to repeat the mistakes of our proprietary past.


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Matt Asay brings a decade of in-the-trenches open-source business and legal experience to The Open Road, with an emphasis on emerging open-source business strategies and opportunities. Matt is vice president of business development at Alfresco, a company that develops open-source software for content management. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure. You can follow Matt on Twitter @mjasay.
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by jinx101a March 30, 2009 7:28 AM PDT
The "open" cloud manifesto is nothing more than marketing hype to prep users and organizations to buy on going data services from big companies in the future. Sure, it's got it's use, without question... but to pretend it's something greater than what it is.. frankly, is just marketing.

The "cloud" computing idea is nothing new, it's just now looked upon as a new revenue stream for companies who want you to purchase their services.
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by dizzzzzzzzzzy March 30, 2009 7:33 AM PDT
Your article does not give a definition of 'open cloud'. Could any reader please render help?
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by tm_anon March 30, 2009 10:02 PM PDT
the open cloud is meant as the ability to move from one service provider to another without loss of data, bringing your work with you. It uses standards as the medium between the cloud providers, meaning that, what one providers software can create, the other service providers software can read.
by Neeta-edunetsys March 30, 2009 8:15 AM PDT
Proponent of open cloud wants to see to it that Microsoft loses its dominance of OS market. The very basis on which Open cloud has been conceived, it is sure that big proponents of open cloud are striving hard to cut down on Windows OS market. But as the time will tell, desktop OS will remain and Windows will continue to thrive.
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by gggg sssss March 30, 2009 9:06 AM PDT
With MS doinant. most thinsg work with most things. If this nonsense catches on, nothing will work with nothing.
by t8 March 30, 2009 1:54 PM PDT
@ gggg sssss.

What a lack of vision you have. Poor fellow.
by tm_anon March 30, 2009 10:05 PM PDT
With MS dominant, it takes a lot of work by a lot of people who don't work for MS to create the ability to use documents and files created in an MS environment. If this catches on, it will ensure that nobody will ever have to do that nonsense of having to translate one companies standards into another again.
by Dougvan March 30, 2009 8:29 AM PDT
I stopped reading the manifesto after two pages. The idea is interesting, but the piece is just fluff. Consider:

It asks whether the Cloud is "disruptive" or "hype" ... but never answers its own question.

It says definitions are the first thing that needs to be done, but then says you can't define it and its too soon taxonomy.

It's hard to take the manifesto seriously when it's penned so amateurishly.
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by Ice Moose March 30, 2009 9:22 AM PDT
Couldn't agree more. That's six pages of incoherent mumble.
And all of it can be compiled down to that:
"Let's build a good X, but we won't define what X is, so let's just talk how good X will be. But if you don't like it, you are evil"
by gggg sssss March 30, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
IBM once called this System370. See how well that worked.
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by scottlewis101 March 30, 2009 11:33 AM PDT
What an asinine comment. System370 is the progenitor of today's System z mainframe, which is still (contrary to your limited knowledge base) the dominant data platform and transaction platform on the planet.

So, it worked out pretty well - troll.
by t8 March 30, 2009 1:53 PM PDT
Ha ha you were owned gggg ssss troll.
by gggg sssss March 31, 2009 6:44 PM PDT
I have of course personally programmed on s370. And you?
by MadLyb March 30, 2009 9:15 AM PDT
Why do we elevate technology to an ideal...or for some people a religion.

It is a computing model, not the second coming and we don't need manifestos and such to realize the value and execute on it, especially if said document has an agenda or refuses to accomodate other points of view.
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by tm_anon March 30, 2009 10:10 PM PDT
Unfortunately we need a document agreed upon by all that will ensure the ability of customers to have a choice. In short, to ensure our own freedoms.

I'd like to see the users create a document. Since the main players can't seem to get their acts together, I think we should do it for them.

Of course, if you're fine being forced into a type of cyber slavery by vendor lock-in, you go for it.
by GajaKannan March 30, 2009 9:50 AM PDT
Building an Open Cloud manifesto using a "Closed process"... Oh well, shows how matured IBM when it comes to cloud. They dont have anything in cloud, only thing they could do is to create a manifesto in a closed process and expect cloud leaders like Microsoft, Amazon, Google and SalesForce to join them... Good luck IBM. Please focus on Sun acquisition and leave cloud to people who understand it...
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by scottlewis101 March 30, 2009 11:35 AM PDT
How is Microsoft a "cloud leader"? They have a marketing umbrella called Azure. They have no marketable products. The cloud leaders are Amazon and Google, and they have divergent strategies. Google offers a limited set of functions with unlimited scale. Amazon offers unlimited functions with limited scale using COTS and open source software.
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by t8 March 30, 2009 1:38 PM PDT
Here is the future. Separate clouds and no room in the future for a new player. Except there will be room for an Open Source Cloud and it will happen one way or another. This will happen unless the clouds can reach out to each other and exchange formats. If I belong to one cloud and a business associate of mine to another, then if we cannot exchange our data and files, it just leaves the door open for someone to allow interoperability of which I will use.

So it is up to these Cloud companies if they want to leave that door open for someone else.
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by jabailo March 30, 2009 4:56 PM PDT
This is a time of newness. Why define everything? It's still taking shape. The entrenched giants want to own it all...they get a slice. That's all.
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by W-G-D April 2, 2009 8:39 AM PDT
Isnt cloud computing in total--just a bunch of mumbo-jumbo?
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