February 18, 2009 1:48 PM PST

SugarCRM open sources the cloud

by Matt Asay
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SugarCRM has long driven roughly 30 percent of its revenue through Sugar-on-Demand, its hosted offering. But in a recent TechTarget interview, SugarCRM CEO John Roberts pushes the envelope a bit on what it means to be open source and cloud-based:

Today, SugarCRM is deployed on more than 55,000 servers worldwide and growing. Where are the servers? Those servers are in the cloud, they're not in local data centers. They're in all the cloud infrastructure providers from Amazon to Rackspace to British Telecom to IBM. They need applications, and SugarCRM is an application that runs basically on every cloud environment that is being built right now.

At the same time, we believe the maturation of the Internet to a cloud infrastructure, where you can run your application in the cloud but also have a choice of cloud providers, is a great advantage to customers in terms of giving them more control over systems architecture but also giving them more price control. I think the days of software vendors doing everything from the hardware to the software and building a 100% lock-in based model doesn't really benefit the customer anymore.

It's subtle, but Roberts says something profoundly important: choice in cloud providers. This isn't something that is specific to open source, per se, but it's something that Google, Microsoft, and others have bypassed in their attempts to make the cloud an extension of their desktop/server-based applications, rather than making such applications portable between different cloud providers.

Of course, by virtue of having its code open source, SugarCRM also gets the benefit of letting its software proliferate through these different cloud providers, which can then return to pay SugarCRM money if the service proves itself out and it wants either support or additional software not available in the open-source version. End-users, for their parts, always have the option to take their data out of the cloud and run it locally using open-source SugarCRM.

In this way, open source gives choice and flexibility to the cloud providers, who in turn deliver choice and flexibility to end-customers. SugarCRM starts the process, and benefits from it. It's a smart use of cloud computing to grow an open-source business, one that I would expect to see more open-source vendors try.


Disclosure: I am an advisor to SugarCRM.

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Matt Asay brings a decade of in-the-trenches open-source business and legal experience to The Open Road, with an emphasis on emerging open-source business strategies and opportunities. Matt is vice president of business development at Alfresco, a company that develops open-source software for content management. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure. You can follow Matt on Twitter @mjasay.
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by HughJJorgan February 18, 2009 4:53 PM PST
That's not really the cloud, you know.

That's great that you can host your SugarCRM on one of the cloud platforms, but that in itself doesn't make those installations of SugarCRM cloud-based; it just means that your Sugar servers are over there instead of over here. Does Sugar automatically provide upgrades to this software, or do you have to install it yourself? What kind of backup capability and disaster recovery do you get with these? What do you do if performance is not up to par? Whose neck do you squeeze?

Just hosting an on-premise app on Rackspace doesn't make it cloud-based. The true benefits of the cloud can only be had from the vendors who truly eschew on-premise software.
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by JTaylor2009 February 19, 2009 9:21 AM PST
I absolutely agree, Sugar is really stretching the definition of cloud computing here. Even their on-demand service isn't truly cloud-based. Sugar has to upgrade customer instances manually when new releases come out and if you make any code changes to it, you're looking at a major undertaking. Also, who will do it now that their professional services team was eliminated as part of the layoffs in november???
by botchagalupe February 19, 2009 5:12 AM PST
Matt,

Sometimes I am a little slow on the uptake. Was your point about Roberts' choice of cloud providers (i.e., Racksapce, Amazon,..) a vs. Google and Microsoft? As in Google and MS didn't do their cloud thing in a more open way? If that was your point I totally agree. Otherwise I am confused.

Thanks
john
johnmwillis.com
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Matt Asay brings a decade of in-the-trenches open-source business and legal experience to the Open Road, with an emphasis on emerging open-source business strategies and opportunities. Matt is general manager of the Americas division and vice president of business development at Alfresco, a company that develops open-source software for content management. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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