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February 2, 2009 4:07 PM PST

Computer science moves toward the Mac

by Matt Asay
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In a sign that Apple's Mac OS X operating system has gone truly mainstream, computer science programs like that at the University of Utah have formally announced classes like "Mac OS X Deployment v10.5" focused on administering Mac OS X.

While a quick scan of computer science courses at Harvard and Stanford doesn't reveal any Mac OS X-centric courses, and a quick Google search doesn't reveal much more, it's possible that the University of Utah, which has several OS X classes, is the vanguard for OS X's classroom uptake and a clear signal of enterprise adoption.

The description of its newest class hints at bigger and broader OS X enterprise rollouts:

On February 9th to the 11th, we will be offering Mac OS X Deployment v10.5, which covers deploying your Macintosh systems initially, deploying the OS systems for various uses, and providing updates and maintenance for the Macintosh system. For any of you who manage large Mac labs or businesses that are migrating to or integrating Macs, this would be a great class for you attend.

Universities, for all their attempts to be counterculture, tend to follow general industry trends. They have to, if they want to serve their customers. If the University of Utah is offering OS X administration courses, it's because there's a market for the classes being fed by increasing enterprise adoption of the Mac.


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by daveylb February 2, 2009 9:23 PM PST
Um. OK. Just be be clear - No Computer Science degree/department i've ever seen really includes anything like a computer admin course - that's more like a lower level information tech. course or something. If you need/want a course on sysadmin, then computer science probably isn't your thing. This is why you won't see it at Harvard or Stanford either -- compsci doesn't really stoop to a specific OS, language, computer manufacturer or anything like that -- in fact you might end up on a project writing your own OS or language if you are in compsci. Get your terminology right.
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by odubtaig February 3, 2009 4:16 AM PST
Actually, there are mixed courses at some Unis, especially the ex-polys in the UK. Birmingham City University ( http://www.bcu.ac.uk/ ) in particular is also a training centre for Microsoft, Cisco and Cisco trainer certifications and has no problem mixing CompSci and IT.
by tflinton2 February 3, 2009 6:54 PM PST
Just to be clear i'm in the University of Utah's Computer Science Masters Program. This class isn't offered by the computer science faculty or staff. It's through the university of utah continuing education which are non-matriculated classes (i.e. they don't apply to any degree). It's not computer science.
by zahadum February 2, 2009 10:33 PM PST
@davey:

yep, more sloppy "journalism".

as the URL self-describes, this is a) an MIS course b) offered by the continuing education dept.

it has nothing to do with compsci, but it does indeed demonstrate that there is a rapidly growing ebterprise market for osx sysadmins.

however, don't be misled by the provonvial location of Utah! ... many key creators of the mac studied there ...

and Utah has long been a leader in advanced kernel research - eg the FLUX exokernels (sadly apple had long given up on any ambitions to modernize Mach ...

it is too bad that the osx ketnel has been allowed to languish because it ignores fascinating new possibilities for improvement, such as the exciting L4 work in australia (eg when a powerful functional language like Haskell is used, then it is possible to generate a proof that the kernel is guarenteed to be safe or secure or some other constructed property. Likewise, the lack of attention to advanced research by apple has also resulted in the lack of a proper model for distributed computing - which requires that the mu calculus or the pi calculus; and of course without a calculus for abstracting how one type of resoutce (in this case, a process & an address space) can be encapsulated in a determinate way (Mach is silent about the interaction model for it's primitives - ports sending messages via IPC - should be calculated), it is therefore becomes problematic to develop/extend/reuse a system-level calculus to support how more sophisticated abstractions - such as agents - should interact.

if apple had in fact continued the logic if Mach - and absorbed the lessons from Utah's exokernel, the L4/haskel work, and the pi/mu calculus for distributed computing - then osx would have obtained heaps if powerful high-level models for agents ... a gap which now becomes obvious when one sees the prospect of cloud computing & edge/mesh networks.

anyways - don't sniff at Utah just cuz it is not "famous" - they have done some creditable basic compsci research, and yes are also now rolling out some mac-friendly MIS.
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by utahman.brian February 4, 2009 10:59 AM PST
Go Utes!

Seriously, it may not have the name of Stanford or Harvard, but it is a great University.
by zahadum February 2, 2009 10:38 PM PST
attn webmaster:

your webform needs an edit mode!

cuz the composing screen on an iPhone is too small to see aloof one's writing/spelling mistakes :-(

... so the user needs a chance to fix these after submission.
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by vcpmartin February 3, 2009 12:11 AM PST
Here at UQ they're now offering an iPhone (and Android) Development course, so yes, it's gaining traction. One of the side effects (or possibly designed effects) of developing for iPhone (a version of MacOSX) is that it's got the cool factor, and once you're in it's not much of a leap to developi g for desktop MacOSX

"New IT course inspired by iPhone"
http://www.uq.edu.au/news/index.html?article=17268
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by MSSlayer February 3, 2009 7:36 AM PST
If you need a course for iPhone "development" or a course to learn any API, you probably shouldn't be doing it.
by MSSlayer February 3, 2009 7:35 AM PST
This is not a computer science class.

Not surprising that you don't understand what CS is. Every post you make Matt, shows how ignorant you are.

At some point, even you might get embarrassed by the drivel you write.
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by  Brian February 3, 2009 6:00 PM PST
Macs have arrived !!

Long live Apple -- our day has come.

Goodbye Microhoo, no one will buy Winblowz 7.
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by tcr071 February 3, 2009 6:56 PM PST
Are you kidding me? Does no one read or research this idiots articles before he is allowed to post them??? I don't know what strange world you live in Matt where 2+2=5 but the University of Utah is just offering a THREE DAY CLASS. This is NOT a university course. If this was a full semester course it would NOT be considered a computer science course. If the author had done an ounce of research maybe this article wouldn't have been a complete and utter waste of time for anyone who read it.

I don't know what is more sad. The idiot author who wrote this article or the Mac fans thinking this is some sort of victory and rejoicing.
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by razorsfury February 3, 2009 7:25 PM PST
there have been mac courses at the community college for years, where were the articles about that?
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by th3wiz4rd February 3, 2009 8:11 PM PST
Matt, this is a "Apple Authorized Training" listed on http://training.apple.com/locations. The course is no different than taking it from any of the training centers listed on the site.. The university is just allowing the trainings to be taught in one of their classrooms. Oklahoma City University and the University of New Mexico do the same thing. Students are not given university credit for these courses, so your article is extremely misleading. Please do your research before posting next time...
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by ldmommy February 5, 2009 4:38 PM PST
Actually, our Mac OS courses for Deployment and other IT classes can be taken for credit. Matriculated students can take these courses through the Computer Science dept at the University of Utah for credit.
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