August 14, 2008 2:17 PM PDT

Mark Shuttleworth's evolving Ubuntu desktop war

by Matt Asay
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Mark Shuttleworth and Matt Asay Skiing Las Lenas

(Credit: Matt Asay)

I've been very fortunate to get to spend some time with Mark Shuttleworth, founder of Ubuntu, during my trip to Argentina. Mark and I spent the day skiing in Las Lenas, with some soft snow by the middle of the day and a lot of great conversation throughout the day.

One question we discussed at length: what is Mark's ambition for Ubuntu?

In trying to get at the answer to this question, InternetNews today asks: why doesn't Canonical work with SAP and Oracle to get them to support Ubuntu? But this sort of question doesn't get anywhere near Mark's ambition for Ubuntu. It doesn't anticipate the intersection of the web and the desktop.

The more I talk with Mark, the more I think he's a very, very smart person. He recognizes that Ubuntu needs to be more appealing on the desktop than the Mac to generate user adoption, but that's not really where his attention is focused, so far as I can tell. He's thinking bigger than desktop bits.

He's thinking of cloud-plus-desktop bits. And this, my friends, is why Mark may end up winning the "desktop" war.

Many, including I, have been quick to dismiss Microsoft as an also-ran on the web. To date it has been. Mark, however, along with Mary Jo Foley and other smart people, believes that the cloud becomes even more powerful when rendered through desktop applications. No one has the strength on the desktop that Microsoft has, making its increasing array of servers much more ominous (if you compete with them).

Indeed, the more one looks at Google and other "cloud" companies the more it's clear that they're spending an increasing amount of time on the desktop (Google Gears, Google Toolbar, etc.).

There's much one can do in the browser. But there's conceivably much more that one could do with a connection between the desktop and the cloud.

Just look at Apple, with a market cap that has surpassed Google's and a host of network services like iTunes that extend the Apple brand beyond its beautiful desktop.

Now start to think about what Ubuntu could do with a firm position on the desktop, or what Google could do if it wanted to "backfill" its desktop gap with Ubuntu (or its own homegrown version of Linux). Would you buy a Google Desktop/operating system? Of course you would. You'd be thinking of the Google applications while getting the benefit of a Google home base in the desktop bits, including the operating system.

So, on one hand you have the Canonical that is determined to create a better desktop experience, while simultaneously charging hard into the enterprise server market. Marry that to the possibility of Ubuntu delivered with exceptional network services and you not only discover a way for Ubuntu to be much bigger than a Linux distribution, but you also figure out a way for it to make a heck of a lot of money.

Suddenly creating a third leading Linux distribution doesn't seem so crazy. It's only crazy if Mark were content to stymie his imagination by replicating what Novell and Red Hat have already done well. He's not. He's thinking bigger. There's risk in thinking big, but there's also a potentially huge reward.

Matt Asay brings a decade of in-the-trenches open-source business and legal experience to The Open Road, with an emphasis on emerging open-source business strategies and opportunities. Matt is vice president of business development at Alfresco, a company that develops open-source software for content management. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure. You can follow Matt on Twitter @mjasay.
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by Kings X Rocks! August 15, 2008 7:04 AM PDT
They got a long way to go to get the elegance of the OSX desktop. Granted they didn't invent it, but Apple has always shown the right-way to build a user interface. IMHO.

Vista ain't bad...

Distros have a way to go...
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by The_Decider August 15, 2008 12:19 PM PDT
If Mark was intelligent he would see that the insane 6 month release come hell or high water creates too many problems and bugs. It also keeps Ubuntu years behind the top distros.
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by dapper7 September 12, 2008 12:20 PM PDT
Tell me the top distros that Ubuntu is years behind? I use Ubuntu and Windows and so far no bugs in Ubuntu that would make me drop it for windows or any other Linux distros, on the contrary the Linux distros that have very long release cycles are the ones I find are far behind.
by G_Slade February 9, 2009 11:42 AM PST
If anything the 6 month release helps ubuntu stay both up to date and bug free, because they dont feel pressured into rushing things for the release. If its not working properly, they can wait 6 months and put it in the next release. whereas another OS that releases every 3 years say, will feel pressured into releasing every part because its the last release for 3 years.
by enderandrew August 15, 2008 4:19 PM PDT
If he wants to focus on desktop+cloud bits, he should look at KDE 4. Plasmoids can take various data sources, including the cloud, and place them meaningfully on your desktop. Even better, KDE is becoming multi-platform, which means that not only can you access web-based components in any compatible browser, but your desktop bits might just travel with you to any PC you use, regardless of OS.

It's a shame that Canonical all but ignores KDE.
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by vladinati August 15, 2008 9:08 PM PDT
Well i will like to see where this goes. You gotta start somewhere.
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by daengbo August 16, 2008 9:51 AM PDT
Google should sell an appliance. The user logs in with the Google credentials (gmail.com or other) and is presented with everything set up for them ... email, chat, voice, and docs. A completely online experience.
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by jacobk397 August 17, 2008 11:15 AM PDT
Ignore KDE? Kubuntu anyone?
As for plasmoids, GNOME can counter this through screenlets. Personally, I much prefer the clean minimalist look of my GNOME desktop to the flashy one of KDE 4. Granted, it's pretty, but usability has a steep learning curve and overall requires steps that just shouldn't have to be taken.
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by dapper7 September 12, 2008 12:26 PM PDT
"They got a long way to go to get the elegance of the OSX desktop."

Not true at all, even now Linux is so flexible that you can have a beautiful desktop comparable with the Mac OSX,
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by tipoo_ December 11, 2008 7:03 AM PST
So how does this Mark Shuttleworth even make money off of Ubuntu? just curious.
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Matt Asay brings a decade of in-the-trenches open-source business and legal experience to the Open Road, with an emphasis on emerging open-source business strategies and opportunities. Matt is general manager of the Americas division and vice president of business development at Alfresco, a company that develops open-source software for content management. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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