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May 4, 2009 8:28 AM PDT

Sikorsky 'progressing' with X2 helicopter effort

by Jonathan Skillings
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Sikorsky X2

The X2 in olive drab.

(Credit: PRNewsFoto/Sikorsky Aircraft)

Sikorsky Aircraft is offering a bit of a look at its X2 helicopter concept.

The X2 Technology design is intended to showcase a range of possibilities for advancing what a helicopter can do--most notably, how fast it can fly. Sikorsky aims eventually to use its X2 demonstrator to push helicopter cruising speed to 250 knots, or nearly twice as fast as today's machines, such as its Blackhawk.

Sikorsky said Monday that it is "progressing" toward that high-speed milestone. It is showing off the Light Tactical Helicopter design at this week's Army Aviation Association of America annual convention in Nashville, Tenn.

The Palm Beach Post reported last month that the X2 prototype was headed to a Florida airfield, where it would make the airspeed record attempt by the end of the year.

The first test flight for the X2 took place in August 2008. In the 30-minute exercise, the X2 performed maneuvers such as hovers, forward flight, and hover turns.

The look of the X2 is striking in a couple of ways. First, it uses a pair of coaxial rotor systems on top, rather than the single rotor found on most helicopters. Second, the tail rotor faces backward, like the propeller on boat, in order to provide push for the aircraft; on helicopters with a single main rotor overhead, the tail rotor is oriented along the main axis of the aircraft, like a bicycle wheel, to provide lateral stability.

Even with that unusual design, Sikorsky says, the X2--which also features fly-by-wire controls--would retain "such desirable helicopter attributes as excellent low speed handling, efficient hovering, autorotation safety, and a seamless and simple transition to high speed."

Jonathan Skillings is managing editor of CNET News, based in the Boston bureau. He's been with CNET since 2000, after a decade in tech journalism at the IDG News Service, PC Week, and an AS/400 magazine. He's also been a soldier and a schoolteacher. E-mail Jon.
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by bob1xxxx May 4, 2009 9:15 AM PDT
Cool
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by myles taylor May 4, 2009 9:26 AM PDT
I would love to fly in this thing. It looks beautiful. Honestly, I don't know why the dual rotor hasn't become more common. It was used in the 70s in a very ugly machine but the concept works. Even in WWII the it was known that rotors operating in opposite directions canceled each other out and made for a quieter engine.
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by byl01 May 4, 2009 11:51 AM PDT
Contra-rotating propellers increase efficiency - the Russian Tu-95 bomber (in production since the '50s) uses them. However, one thing these propellers do NOT do is reduce noise - just the opposite. According to some reports, the antisubmarine version of the Tu-95 could actually be heard inside the submarines (submerged!) it was supposed to hunt.
by ralfthedog May 4, 2009 5:23 PM PDT
Would dual rotors increase mechanical complexity? Would compression waves from the top rotor cause stress to the bottom?
by NervClaX May 5, 2009 9:46 AM PDT
Even if the chopper was loud enough to be heard by the submarine, what could a sub do at that point to avoid being hit? The sub is slow to dive and get up to speed. Everyone on board would have just enough time to crap themselves before being blown out of the water.
by SactoGuy018 May 4, 2009 10:35 AM PDT
If they can double the speed of the helicopter, this could make it very viable for business flying in the US Northeast, where the distance between large population centers are much shorter. It would essentially become the first viable alternative to the commercial tiltrotor helicopter that Bell and Augusta are developing--and possibly at much lower cost, too.
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by ralfthedog May 4, 2009 5:25 PM PDT
And it would reduce the annoying bit about crashing on VTOL transition.
by twburger May 4, 2009 10:38 AM PDT
New experimental design my sweet aunt Fanny! It's a copy of a Russian design: The Ka-25 Hormone from 1961. I saw a smaller prototype version at the Abbotsford Airshow in 1989. It's a good thing the RIAA doesn't own rights to aircraft designs, Sikorsky would have it's corporate tail chewed off.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka-25
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by myles taylor May 4, 2009 10:40 AM PDT
I don't think the new design is the double rotor. As I stated in my comment, a dual rotor is not a new idea. The design is the entire machine and if you look at the Russian chopper it's nothing like this one.
by capnvan May 4, 2009 11:17 AM PDT
While the Ka-25 is a significantly older design, the Ka-50 is similar, lacking only the pusher propeller. It also uses the contra-rotating dual rotors.

Its maximum speed? 205 knots. First flight? 1982. Sikorsky isn't leading the field - it's playing catch-up.
by mbenedict May 4, 2009 2:22 PM PDT
Get real people. Comparing the Ka-25 or KA-50 to the X2 just non-sense.

The KA-50 has a cruising speed of just 146 kts. That's SLOWER than the UH-60 Blackhawk, a mere transporter with a 150 kts cruising speed. The X2 will cruise at 250+ kts.

And sorry, "lacking only the pusher propeller" is a totally ignorant comment. The whole point of the X2 is to demonstrate high-speed gyrodynes. Google "compound helicopter" and be informed. Hint: the Kamovs are NOT compound helicopters, they are co-axials.
by RussianBear2 May 4, 2009 11:46 AM PDT
They are about 10 years behind. Russians not only developed this technology but already supplied first 20 to the army. http://www.enemyforces.net/helicopters/ka52.htm
Look for Ka52 or "Alligator: Helicopter
By the matter of fact they already have 2nd generation of this helicopter in production.
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by mbenedict May 4, 2009 2:23 PM PDT
Um, no. The Ka-52 is not a compound helicopter, just a co-axial. Huge difference.
by ejschlapp May 4, 2009 11:53 AM PDT
Lockheed's AH-56 Cheyenne attack helicopter implemented the pusher propeller in a single rotor design back in the 60's so that idea isn't new either. This may be the first time that a pusher prop is married to a coaxial rotor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AH-56_Cheyenne
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by holyhope May 4, 2009 12:10 PM PDT
Nice design, contra rotation. It could be much quieter on intrusion compared to a Huey, but probably not as quiet or as fast as the v-22, which relies for lift on the wing, which is not going to disturb the air as much as a propellor at any rate because of lower loading per square foot.
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by byl01 May 4, 2009 12:27 PM PDT
... except V-22 is about as reliable as a Ford Pinto.
by ralfthedog May 4, 2009 5:28 PM PDT
byl01, Yes, the V-22 does crash on VTOL transition like a XBOX 360 in July with the AC turned off.
by bob1xxxx May 5, 2009 12:34 AM PDT
v 22 = death , its unarmed a death trap on a good day and a class case of criminal congressional pork barrel spending on a bad day.
by SergeM256 May 4, 2009 6:08 PM PDT
Of course it is not a new design, this design in has been around for decades. I don't think it is even possible to invent a new design, looks like all possible designs have been tested in 30's and 50's. We may see some old designs being re-invented when modern material and technologies make them more practical. X2 is only prototype/model with intended speed of 250 knots but nobody could tell how it will work when it will be actually build. Russian Ka helicopters are mostly designed and optimized for Navy and high speed is not the highest priority for the tasks they were designed for.
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by bob1xxxx May 5, 2009 12:31 AM PDT
Yes the kamov kh 25 and 50 etc.... were originally design for ship based for asw /over the horizon missile targeting helio's with out the dangerous tail rotor which cause most small ship helio casualities (ie destoryers and crusiers). The two counter rotating main rotors cancel out the gyroscopic effect single main rotor causes, and yes while their more complex than single main rotors there far less complicated and far more reliable and safer to operate than osprey style tilt rotor designs. Yes the pusher comes form the old Lockheed Cheyenne , plus now Sikorsky can use new metals and material (ie graphite, nomex, polmyers, composites) which did exsist in the late 1960 and 1970's so they do have a good chance of building a faster helio. But I doubt you'll ever see a heilo faster than 280mph due to supersonic rotor tip shockwaves for rotor blades as the approach the speed of should. Still a very Cool developmental concept design and good place to start for faster and safer helios.
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by gdmaclew May 5, 2009 6:13 AM PDT
Would you please learn how to spell "they're".
by bob1xxxx May 5, 2009 12:50 AM PDT
And dual rotors are not new the us helicopter company Kaman http://www.kamanaero.com/helicopters/kmax.html uses two counter rotating inter meshing rotors to cancel out the gyroscopic effect of the main rotors . There current production helio is the K max use for helio crane and water drop work. Kamam first dual intermeshing rotor design was the US Airforce kamam huskie http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/kaman_huskie.php. So duel rotors on helios has been around for a very very long time
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by hudmack May 5, 2009 10:05 AM PDT
High forward speed is the objective. To do this a rotor must be as rigid as possible and co-axial (One above the other turning in opposite directions) . This helps to reduce retreating blade stall at higher speeds. The pusher prop at the rear adds to forward speed and enables the main rotor to have less angle of attack which also helps to reduce blade stall at high forward speed. The rigid rotor tends to transfer differentials of lift from one set of blades to the other to balance opposing forces. All these things require advanced design in order to get a few more mph from a helicopter. Looks simple but it is not so easy to do. If this Sikorsky goes into production it will be quite an accomplishment.
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by bob1xxxx May 9, 2009 10:56 PM PDT
Yeah thanks , you spelled out what I was trying to say more clearly, and yes if Sikorsky is successful it would be a great engineering feat and very Cool to boot
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