Small wind turbine works at low wind speeds
Homeowners this fall will be able to buy a wind turbine at hardware stores that tackles the small wind industry's bete noire: slow wind.
WindTronics, based in Muskegon, Mich., has developed a wind turbine sized for individual homes that it says can operate at speeds as low as 2 miles an hour.
It will be sold for $4,500 as the Honeywell Wind Turbine and distributed through Ace Hardware stores in the U.S. starting in October. WindTronics developed the turbine and licensed the technology to buildings systems giant Honeywell.
The fan-like turbine will generate 2,000 kilowatt-hours in a year for a home with a very good--called Class 4--wind resource, according to the company. That's between 15 and 20 percent of the annual electricity consumption for the average U.S. home.
Turning a turbine inside out: rather than having power generation occur at a gear box in the shaft, WindTronic's turbine has magnets at the edges of the fan to generate a current.
(Credit: WindTronics)The turbine is rated at 2 kilowatts, but WindTronics executives say that most turbines' rated capacities--the amount of power they can produce at a given moment--are misleading.
"We say if a turbine only works between 8 and 25 miles per hour, you have a very limited range of operation," said Brian Levine, the vice president of business development at WindTronics, a division of EarthTronics. "Our device is rated to address a wider range at the low and high end."
The 95-pound turbine, which is 6 feet in diameter, can be mounted on rooftops, attached to chimneys, or put on a pole. The company hopes to sell the turbines through Ace Hardware stores or through contractors--who are needed for the installation--to homeowners or businesses.
Spinning magnets
With people seeking out alternative forms of power generation, there's been a surge in interest--and sales--in small wind turbines in the past year. But it's still not clear that these small wind turbines are cost-effective enough to be used beyond a niche of green-minded buyers.
Two studies--one in Massachusetts and one in the U.K.--discovered that many small wind turbines far underperformed manufacturers' specifications.
The tests found that people often chose locations that didn't have sufficient wind or obstructions that blocked wind. In most cases, turbine makers rate products assuming a very good wind resource--anywhere from 12 to 25 miles per hour.
By using a novel design, WindTronics' turbine can generate electricity between 2 miles per hour and 45 miles per hour, the company says.
Typically, turbines convert the mechanical energy of spinning blades to electricity with a gearbox and generator in the turbine's nacelle, the enclosure where the rotor's shaft is mounted.
WindTronic's turbine has small magnets at the tips of its fan blades. When they spin from the wind, equipment in the fan's housing captures the current produced.
The installation kit also comes with an inverter to convert the direct current to household alternating current and a "smart box," which regulates the flow of electricity and monitors wind speed. At 45 miles per hour, the unit turns itself sideways to avoid damage.
Levine, who said the turbine was originally developed for developing countries, said WindTronics expects it can produce 50,000 units in its first year. A number of utilities, including Duke Energy, are testing the turbine, he added.
He said that mounting the turbine on a house should not cause vibration because the unit is lighter than most turbines. The sound is rated at between 35 and 45 decibels, which is quieter than normal conversation, Levine said.
Right problem
There is a growing number of companies designing turbines to operate in less-than-ideal wind conditions. A wind map from the Department of Energy shows that most of the fair and good wind--class 3 and class 4--is in the plains states and on the coasts of the continental U.S.
One technique to squeeze more power from available wind is to concentrate the wind to increase the speed of the air going past rotor blades. OptiWind, FloDesign Wind Turbine, and Green Energy Tech are among the companies exploring that approach in small or mid-size turbines.
Other turbine manufacturers, like WindTronics, use permanent magnets in a direct drive design rather than gearboxes to generate electricity.
WindTronics has only built prototype systems, which it first showed at a hardware show last month. But if its turbines can operate in low wind with little vibration and sound, the company could make small wind turbines economically attractive to a much larger audience.
Martin LaMonica is a senior writer for CNET's Green Tech blog. He started at CNET News in 2002, covering IT and Web development. Before that, he was executive editor at IT publication InfoWorld. E-mail Martin. 








this thing will never pay for itself, where do you get "cheap"?
It seems to be the case with many new products. I guess they want to recoup some R&D costs before a competitor gets in. Hopefully they will get the price down soon, but yeah at my age I would probably never see this thing pay for itself.
Additionally, all the methods of roof mounted turbines prior to WindEnergy7 invention failed. Roof turbines can vibrate and make noise. The patent pending method and apparatus of WindEnergy7 has solved the way to do this right. Our turbines have a survival speed of over 130 mph. It will easily weigh 3 to 4 times this device and the weight is important. A real turbine that will last long enough to be worthwhile should have plenty of stainless steel, should be durable and heavy duty hardware ike the home wind turbines at WindEnergy7.com
this unit will, under best case scenario, produce 2000 kwh per year.
that means it will save me 2000*.09 in best case scenario per year.
which is 180.00 a year.
oookay... the unit costs 4500.00...
so... assuming it never breaks and never needs to be repaired or any maintenence done, and that rates stay where they are, this unit will pay for itself and therefore become worth the purchase in roughly 25 years.
... 25 years it'll be cost effective?
NEXT
these things need to be in the 500-1000 dollar range to even remotely be worth the purchase
"The company hopes to sell the turbines through Ace Hardware stores or through contractors--who are needed for the installation--to homeowners or businesses."
Emphasis on contractors needed. Those guys aren't cheap. The installation and wiring might double the cost.
http://callabreeze.com/
The only reason to buy a windmill like this is because you *like* to have one. It's not good for the environment. It's not green. Of course that doesn't mean you shouldn't buy one. Some people like to make a statement or simply think it looks cool. Others like the idea they have local power generation for when the power fails. To some that's worth the money and there's nothing wrong with that. It's not green though.
This windmill costs more energy to make then it will ever produce. Maybe if electricity prices double then it'll break even in less time but then we need to add interest rates for your investment and maintenance costs.
I'd love to see viable windmills but these aren't it.
So, spend way too much money on a product that probably doesn't offset the carbon cost of building, transporting, and marketing it.
Better idea, don't spend the money or spend it on some trees.
And let's be straight, the manufacturer is getting theirs from the sale of this product, so money *is* a factor.
You need to make a statement, fine, but don't even begin to pretend that buying the current crop of low scale wind solutions is actually helping the environment.
I am not rich and care very much about the little money I do have. I CANNOT AFFORD TO BE GREEN until the price of the green option is at least closer to the brown option. Sorry I just don't have the cash to install an electricity maker at these prices.
2. Does it slice and dice birds? Yummy crunch birds are free food (I am such a dog.)
3. How does this device deal with ice? Ice storms knock out the power where I live every few years. sometimes for a week or two. If this device freezes up, it will be if little use for me (Other than when the power is knocked out by tornado or big thunderstorms. That happens several times a year but not as long.).
4. It would be nice if they also had a device that kicked in when the winds were above 45 MPH.
Check out how cheap it looks. If a bird was dumb enough to fly into this, the bird would likely slice and dice the fan blades.
I really doubt it would stand up to an ice storm, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it fall apart in a blizzard. If you look at the picture, the "fan blades" look like their made of cloth. There's no way in heck I would pay $4500 for a wind turbine with cloth fan blades. What are you going to do, take it down and replace the "blades" every few years? What are they going to charge for replacement blades, $100 each?
That is just a convenient assertion with no references to back it up. Here is just one recent article that actually measures bird kills:
K. Shawn Smallwood and Carl Thelander. 2008. Bird Mortality in the Altamont Pass Wind Resource Area, California. Journal of Wildlife Management 72(1):215-223.
Of particular concern is the number of raptor deaths. Also, bats are subject to mortality from wind turbines. We shouldn't necessarily turn away from wind power as an option but I would hope that humans are wise and clever enough to design turbines that don't inadvertently become 'bird blenders'.
Even for $1,000 , I'm not buying this product. For $4,500, this product will now just be a footnote in my archives of cool ideas that will fail.
looks like a DIY project - add some rare earth magnets and a ring of coils to a bicycle wheel.
+ a simple rectifier circuit.
maybe $200 in materials - retail.
/s
The thing may 'generate electricity' and 2mph but there's no physical way it generates MUCH electricity at such low speeds, so that's a red herring.
The reality is that small turbines need to be extremely inexpensive if they are ever going to actually make any sense at all. But it's pretty weird: these things are just fan blades and a very small generator. Why on earth would they cost $4500?
As for your SUV, it transports you and your stuff from place to place. Your ROI is going to be based on how well it meets your needs (whether you actually need that size capability)
ROI is a critical metric when buying an item that produces power. If it will never pay for itself you might as well have bought a $4,500 weather vane.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Ted-Baer_s-Bicycle-Wheel-Windmill/
Added some of the ideas behind this:
http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-1000-watt-wind-turbine/
And now, you get the best of both for 4.5K...
Hmm, Honeywell must pay people to look at instructables...
understand I am not a make it pay for itseff proponent and agree 100% with the previous poster, we need to do something different for energy even if it costs more.
nonetheless here in the northeast , $4500 worth of solar will go alot farther towards energy production than this unit would here (we have 1.9kh on our roof covering almost 100% of yearly usage.
Here is an additional point that the writer (and advertiser for the system) have not bothered to tell us. Wind Class 4 has an average wind speed of 12.2 mph at a **height of 10 m** (see http://www.bergey.com/Maps/Wind_Classes.htm ). So either you are going to have this thing on a tower or on your roof (with substantial wires connected to your house electrical supply).
The average residential neighborhood may have a lot of trees, and/or closely spaced houses, so that will cut down on wind speed. You can't have it closer to the ground than 10 m or or you are going to have less wind and generate a lot less electricity than advertised. And this is assuming that you even live in an area with wind class 4.
So it is going to cost a lot more than $4500 to install, and nobody has said anything about O&M.
I guess I am not surprised that the advertising material for this device (http://www.earthtronics.com/honeywell.aspx ) leaves out all these considerations, but it is very disappointing that the journalist author of this article, Mr. LaMonica, has bought into this story hook, line and sinker without a hint of skepticism about costs or other potential problems.
Unfortunately, this is the nature of a lot of writing about "green" technology. Such prevarication will end up producing a negative bias and reaction against efficient alternative energy.
Here are few more links (in the article, too) on the challenge of finding good windy sites for small turbines.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10196182-54.html?tag=mncol;txt
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10157474-54.html?tag=mncol;txt
It is commendable that the Windtronics turbine works at low wind speeds. Your section regarding finding good windy sites implies that this turbine solves the problem of low wind speeds because it operates starting at 2 mph. Unfortunately, this is not true.
Since power is such a strong function of wind speed, operating at low speeds is not much help. If you look at the table on page 3 of the pdf article "Energy Generation Data" from their website, cutting off power at 12.2 mph (the average speed in class 4) and below only removes 100 kWh from the total of 2042 kWh for that calculation.
So not starting to generate electricity at 7.5 mph (big turbines) is not a big deal after all. A small decrease in average wind speed is much more important.
What you did not deal with, or even discuss, is the abysmal cost-effectiveness of this device. That is not honest reporting. I asked Windtronics about installation and it costs $500 to $1000 in addition to the $4500. (They also claim that there will be no maintenance costs(!))
The big turbine makers say that their installed capital cost is about $1,000/kW. Since their efficiency is generally about 25%, let's make that $4,000/kW.
This device supposedly produces 2000 kWh per year, which is an average of 228 W. So its cost is
$5,000/0.228 kW = $22,000/kW, i.e. 5 times as expensive as a big turbine.
You say "nobody has the same idea of 'cost effective'."
Here is what Earthtronics says:
"MONEY MATTERS. Most of the time, our first thought is "what will it cost," or "how much will I save?" When we create products that save our customers energy, we also save them money."
Not this time. But you didn't notice.
I was puzzled by the fact that this was a "Honeywell" wind turbine. Was it designed, developed, or tested by Honeywell, I asked Earthtronics? No, they said, Earthtronics simply paid Honeywell to use the Honeywell name.
Is that honest? I don't think so. Nor is your article, which does not serve well the cause of efficient, cost-effective alternative energy.
If you cut off power generation at 7.77 mph or below, the total energy loss is 100 kWh out of 2000 kWh annually.
So not generating power below 7.5 mph is still not a significant loss.
One of the key things that will make this thing fly is how big the subsidy is to buy and install it.
Good to hear its getting cheaper, may need to look into it.
- by SolarBozo June 23, 2009 3:29 PM PDT
- Basically, junk. Look at the cheezy support structure, just for example.
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Showing 1 of 2 pages (52 Comments)Also, the amount of energy goes up with the cube of wind velocity. At V cubed, 2 mph gives energy of 2 x 2 x 2. At 10 mph, 10 x 10 x 10,
So, if talking about watts, that is 8 vs. 1,000.
Hold on to your wallets, these guys are trying to reach into your pockets to take your money.