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June 7, 2009 8:50 AM PDT

Down Under gets first dibs on Windows 7

by Renai LeMay
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The first retail sales of Windows 7 will take place in New Zealand and Australia on 22 October, Microsoft confirmed this week.

Windows 7 install button (Credit: Renai LeMay/ZDNet.com.au)

Windows 7 will hit first New Zealand, then Australia, due to the countries' placement with respect to the International Date Line. Microsoft announced last week that its new operating system would hit retail shelves and start showing up on new PCs from October 22.

"Our understanding at this time is that the availability of Windows 7 will 'follow the sun' on Thursday October 22," a Microsoft spokesperson said late this week. "As such, we're excited that the first retail sales globally of Windows 7 will take place in New Zealand and Australia as we cross the dateline ahead of other markets."

A number of large Australian organizations including National Australia Bank, Commonwealth Bank of Australia and Centrelink have already started examining Windows 7, and companies as large as Telstra have flagged their intention to eventually migrate to the platform.

ZDNet.com.au has also been informed by many early adopters that they have had positive experiences with Windows 7 after testing it on their home PCs in preparation for upgrading to the platform from Vista or XP installations.

Microsoft Australia could not confirm at this stage what upgrade programs would be available to locals. However, globally Microsoft has confirmed, without giving details, that it plans to offer some sort of "technology guarantee" giving those who buy Vista machines close to the Windows 7 launch a free or discounted copy of the new operating system.

As with past similar programs, details on pricing will be up to individual computer makers, although Microsoft did say the upgrade program will apply to Vista Home Premium and higher-priced editions (meaning not Windows Vista Basic).

The tech guarantee program is not beginning immediately, but Microsoft did raise the possibility it will offer some sort of lower-cost upgrade to those who are already using Windows Vista.

Renai LeMay of ZDNet Australia reported from Sydney. CNET News.com's Ina Fried contributed to this article.



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by tektaktyks June 7, 2009 9:40 AM PDT
what about the testers?do they get a discount?
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by kcotham June 7, 2009 10:37 AM PDT
Not that I'd actually pay for it, but it is a good question. Will Microsoft reward all of its beta testers?
by breakaoss June 7, 2009 11:39 AM PDT
you guys are ridiculous, beta and rc were available to the entire world for download.
by assman June 7, 2009 11:42 AM PDT
Our reward was getting the opportunity to freely try the product before release. Don't be greedy.
by timber2005 June 7, 2009 2:42 PM PDT
I believe the announced plan was anyone who tested the beta or rc, and checked the customer experience program box, and sends at least 3 months of data (happens automatically, non-identifiable info of yours), will get a complementary copy of Win 7 Ultimate.

http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/05/16/windows-feedback-program-participants-can-get-windows-7-gift
by dhavleak June 7, 2009 2:49 PM PDT
@ tektaktyks & kcotham:

The purpose for making Beta and RC releases available -- if you are a software developer and you want to be sure your software will run on the next version of windows, it's in your interest to download the beta and RC. If you run into issues, it could be a bug in the release, or a bug in your software -- but eventually it gets resolved, and when the final version is released you know your software will still run so your revenue stream is unaffected.

Apart from that, enthusiasts will always download stuff (just to try it out) and file bugs etc. -- but there's no way to distinguish them from the s/w developers. In fact, there's no way to tell if you just downloaded the RC for the purpose of getting a discount and never even actually installed it. So it's not practical / reasonable to expect MS to have any sort of 'rewards' program for Beta/RC testers.
by Mr. Dee June 7, 2009 3:06 PM PDT
kcotham: you wouldn't pay for it, but you want a free copy anyway? So I guess if Intel gave you access to pre-release hardware for testing you wouldn't buy the final product either?
by aka_tripleB June 7, 2009 12:56 PM PDT
That's naive. We all know the first place to get dibs on anything are the places that "accidently" sells them before their release. That could be any where west of the international date line. :-)
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by June 7, 2009 1:16 PM PDT
hahahahahhahahaha =D ftw
by Mr. Dee June 7, 2009 3:04 PM PDT
Actually any subscriber with access to MSDN and TechNET will be the first to get it in the second half of July. Depends on how fast your Internet Connection is.
by t8 June 7, 2009 2:25 PM PDT
I live in New Zealand which is 12 hours ahead of GMT.
Yet I will be the last to try Windows 7 (by choice).

Best to wait for 2 service packs and then evaluate whether it is better than XP or Linux.
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by Mr. Dee June 7, 2009 3:03 PM PDT
You should download the Windows 7 RC before jumping to a conclusion about product you obviously have not used. Features such as Jump List, Improvements to the Start Menu, Aero Snaps, Aero Shake, Aero Peek, Windows Touch, interactive Thumbnail previews, Improved Search features such as Input, Search Federation, AppLocker, BitLocker To Go, Direct Connect, Network Backup, Remote App, Firewall Profiles, Location Awareness, HomeGroups, Media Streaming, Play To, Internet TV, Sticky Notes with Ink support, Biometrics. Along with that, improved user experience in areas such as Personalization, Windows Update, performance - On demand loading of devices and services, efficient utilization of resources such as spinning up a DVD or a NIC, Battery performance allowing efficient use based environment lighting, improved multi-monitor support, DirectX 11, improved Windows applications such as Paint, WordPad...just the tip of the iceberg. Oh, lets not forget about freebies such as Windows Virtual XP.
by codynews June 7, 2009 5:58 PM PDT
I'm using the beta (not even the RC) and haven't had a single issue. It's great. People worried about waiting for a service pack should try the RC. This guy is totally ready for prime time.
by tm_anon June 7, 2009 10:44 PM PDT
@codynews

You didn't have trouble, that's great. Someone else may have and there will be more trouble when it's released. That's the cycle of life for software when it just comes out. There will always be bugs.

@Mr. Dee

He made sense, rather than be an early adopter, wait until the bugs are ironed out then see if it's better than what he's already using.

You, however, just listed a bunch of new "features" which may or may not actually help his productivity and, for some, may actually harm said productivity. (workers getting used to new features, learning the new interface, trying to do things how they've always done them, learning new Hot Keys).

By the way, Compiz Fusion always has snapping windows, wobbly windows, peaks at open but hidden windows, etc. Most Linux distros can be set up for touch screens fairly easily. My own distro has a firewall built in and I'm sure most, if not all Linux distros, have a firewall built in as well as a built in AV. Everything else you mentioned, I either have a free app to do or I just never really wanted or needed.

Oh, let's not forget that I have Virtualbox, also free, and WINE, just in case there's that one elusive Windows app that I can't find any equivalent to (hint, there aren't many at all).
by theonlybuster June 7, 2009 2:45 PM PDT
discount? I suggest you find a pirated copy and purposely try to register it. Hopefully the same thing with XP and Vista will happen again. They find out you have a pirated version and offer you a 10-15% discount.
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by theonlybuster June 7, 2009 2:46 PM PDT
discount? I suggest you find a pirated copy and purposely try to register it. Hopefully the same thing with XP and Vista will happen again. They find out you have a pirated version and offer you a 10-15% discount.
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by wiz11 June 7, 2009 5:22 PM PDT
Wow..... Thanks CNET. Its so important to report on a story such as the difference on time. Come on... Report on real stories.
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by Seaspray0 June 7, 2009 7:10 PM PDT
You didn't name any.
by shellcodes_coder June 7, 2009 5:24 PM PDT
Read it on newwin
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by markedman0965 June 7, 2009 5:48 PM PDT
And in a related story, It was determined today that the world is round.
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by The_happy_switcher June 7, 2009 9:31 PM PDT
Actually the world is an oblate sphere--flattened at the poles due to centripetal forces.
by zmjman08 June 8, 2009 1:22 PM PDT
lol nice
by t8 June 8, 2009 7:54 PM PDT
@AppleRocks

Which actually means that the earth has 4 corners.
by kdrobb2k June 7, 2009 6:52 PM PDT
It just better be right! No driver issues, no basic function issues, no crashes, and no Vista nonsense. This must work right out of the box. We can accept minor malfunctions but it must WORK! MS has
its' waning credibility on the line. Get it right Microsoft! There are millions out here waiting for you.
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by Seaspray0 June 7, 2009 7:11 PM PDT
Load the Release Candidate and you will know.
by enidesigns June 8, 2009 6:07 AM PDT
I personally haven't been this excited for a Windows release in quite some time.

While I totally disliked Vista, I've found it pleasantly easy to move from WinXP to the RC of Win7. Even better yet, I've personally experienced LESS hardware issues under my Win7 install than I had originally with WinXP.

All in all, I have to say my personal experience with Win7 has been quite good. The only real work I had to do was find the appropriate 64 bit drivers for specific hardware, which I could have done well in advance but chose to wait till post install of the OS.

Everyone has their personal reasons for choosing to adapt now, later or never. But I would like to recommend that anyone who hasn't tried it - but would like to - to download the RC and give it a shot. It's not nearly as hard of a transition as you may think :)
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by Fire Balls June 8, 2009 6:41 AM PDT
Agreed. I can't stand XP or vista after using Win7. The interface is much easier to use, drivers are hardily an issue now (you have to find more loading XP then win7) stability is amazing and support for older programs is much better then in vista. Also the security is improved.
by whiplash55 June 8, 2009 1:15 PM PDT
Typical childish sniping from the also ran, they are obviously scared of Win 7 since with few credible exceptions its had rave reviews. Charging 30 bucks for a service pack is better than 130 like they use to, and is a welcome change. I see they've lowered prices of their overpriced hardware good idea when sales are down.
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