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Windows Live tries to show its social side

by Ina Fried
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Microsoft is announcing a series of changes to its Windows Live services aimed to give more of a social-networking flavor to the company's communications services.

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With the update, Spaces, Windows Live Hotmail, and Windows Live Messenger will get deeper ties with one another. While stressing that it is not trying to create a new social-networking site, Microsoft is nonetheless adopting concepts like news feeds and profiles that have made such services so popular.

"The general thing people are trying to do in all of these services is keep in touch," said Brian Hall, the general manager for Windows Live.

The software maker is trying to expand the amount of time users spend in Windows Live, which Hall said already gets 11 percent of all Internet minutes, thanks largely to the popularity of Hotmail and Messenger.

On top of those, Microsoft is adding a revamped Windows Live Home page that focuses on a news feed of actions taken by one's contacts as well as new types of views that focus on what a particular person or group is up to.

To populate its news feed, users will have the option to include their activities from a variety of other sites. The company has signed up reviews sites like Amazon and Yelp, blogging sites like WordPress and Twitter, as well as some less well-known social-networking sites.

"Facebook and MySpace are not on there right now," Hall said. "We're announcing a set of partners that are deploying in December."

Photo sharing is a particular area of focus, with Microsoft offering its own storage options, as well as linking to third-party sites such as Photobucket and Yahoo's Flickr. Starting next year, HP will also bundle Microsoft's Windows Live Photo Gallery software with its consumer printers.

As for the changes to Windows Live itself, glimmers of the update are visible now, though most features are only in private testing and won't be visible to the masses until next month, Hall said. For example, the latest public beta version of Windows Live Messenger has a "What's new" feature, but for now it only shows things such as changing a profile picture within Messenger.

As part of the latest changes, Microsoft is also upping the amount of storage provided with its SkyDrive service to 25GB from 5GB.

Part of this wave of changes is also the update to Windows Live Hotmail, in which Microsoft has merged its standard and classic modes--a move that left some users grumbling.

Interestingly, Classic mode was an afterthought in the major Hotmail overhaul Microsoft did several years ago. Throughout the redesign, though, it took on added importance until it became the default mode when the revamped Web mail program ultimately launched.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by whizkid454 November 13, 2008 4:35 AM PST
Any ideas when we will see the changes? I'm looking forward to that extra 20GB of space on the SkyDrive.
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by zcollvee November 13, 2008 7:23 AM PST
cant wait for this!!!!!
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by ducttape36 November 13, 2008 8:42 AM PST
ive been using the beta messenger for a while now, and its a solid improvement over that last version. however, unless they are able to integrate to facebook or myspace i dont think anyone is really going to care about what they are doing with social features. although to their credit, the zune social is pretty decent, but its kind of a niche market for music lovers.
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by tuneslover November 13, 2008 9:08 AM PST
Ya great news. Facebook & Twitter kill MySpace & hi5. Now Windows Live will Facebook & Twitter. I really like new "Windows Live Profile". Though i have one complain. I don't like it's name "Profile". "Windows Live Life" or "Windows Live Society" would far better.
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by Super2online November 13, 2008 9:24 AM PST
The transformation into a cohesive and substantive brand that screams "we know what we want to do now" appears to finally be here. If they play their cards right (considering this is a consumer site that's a big if) Microsoft may quickly be able to win over lots of former Yahoo users that have become disenfranchised with the direction they are taking.

These types of features will certainly be very popular with the younger crowd, but they must alo find a way to satisfy those that love to use the personalized home page to load up with RSS feeds. Windows Mobile 7 must also be able to heavily tap into this new connected experience.

Who ever took this over seems to have everyone on the same page now thank god. Who ever you are, I like the direction you are taking us. More of the same please!
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by monkeyfun14 November 13, 2008 5:10 PM PST
Haven't they already done this?
by Lerianis November 14, 2008 2:03 AM PST
The Hotmail transition is a good thing, however.... they once again broke the thing for Mozilla browsers when they went to the new version of Hotmail.
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by November 14, 2008 12:55 PM PST
I have been using Hotmail for over 12 years now (yeah, go figure), and I hate the new Windows Live Hotmail. It's slow; it's buggy, the user interface is awful. There are 2 inches of screen at the top that are not used for anything so the e-mail window gets squinched (technical term) into the bottom of the screen. I can only read a couple of lines at one time.

I want the old Hotmail back:-(
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by paoconnell November 14, 2008 2:05 PM PST
I've never used Hotmail or Messenger (I use Gmail, and don't use instant messaging at all). Can someone explain why Microsoft is spending so much time/money on making them "better," considering that Hotmail is a Web based mail service, and Messenger is just another instant messaging service?
So far as I know, both services used to work just fine.
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by cshefman November 26, 2008 4:31 PM PST
I've been using the Messenger 2009 Beta for a couple months now and absolutely love it! I've only run into 2 or 3 bugs (though I'm not a developer), but in terms of user experience, it's a MASSIVE improvement over the old MSN Messenger.

I don't know why they haven't updated the beta in a while though!
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