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June 18, 2008 1:01 PM PDT

Could YouTube become hub for feature films and TV shows?

by Greg Sandoval

For a long time, I've said that YouTube could become the Web's supreme ruler of short-form and long-form video should it ever offer feature films and TV shows.

The Web's top video-sharing site now appears to be preparing to make such a move. YouTube has begun experimenting with delivering longer videos than the typical 10-minute clips allowed on the site, Fortune magazine reported Wednesday. On YouTube now are several full-length documentaries and TV shows. (See one of those videos, Howard Buttelman, Daredevil Stuntman, embedded below.)

The question is whether Google is making the move too late.

Long-form content would mark the latest attempt to help Google cash in on YouTube's massive audience. Two years after acquiring YouTube for $1.65 billion, Google still hasn't figured out a way to profit from the site, CEO Eric Schmidt has said several times recently.

Google hasn't yet responded to my inquiries on the Fortune report.

While Schmidt has declined to detail why the company is struggling to squeeze profits from YouTube, some of the site's shortcomings as a money maker are obvious.

YouTube has become a massive video-hosting service, where people post clips of baby's first steps, a sleeping puppy, or the family picnic. Most don't attract mass audiences. Nevertheless, Google still has to pay the bandwidth costs.

Each minute, more than 10 hours of video are posted to YouTube, which "is now the majority of outbound bandwidth" for Google, Schmidt said last week in an interview with The New Yorker. "We had to retool the network."

Bandwidth costs are likely less of a worry than the advertising issues. If YouTube hasn't become a cash cow after three years as the Web's top supplier of short-form, homemade clips, perhaps its time to conclude advertisers just don't like user-generated content--or at least they don't like it enough.

Greg Sterling, an advertising and marketing analyst, said studies have shown that ad agencies remain wary of putting their brands next to user-generated content. "They don't like not knowing what they're getting," he said.

But Sterling doesn't see how offering long-form content can help YouTube. In addition dealing with advertisers who are squeamish about user-generated content, YouTube must also figure out how to advertise to an audience--regardless of the length of the video--that resents advertising on the Web.

Google has yet to discover an vehicle that can get ads in front of viewers well enough to please advertisers but not alienate viewers.

The Hulu factor, and Mark Cuban weighs in
Another challenge is that YouTube's move toward long-form video comes after many of the big content suppliers have already found other Web outlets for their material. For instance, Disney last week began showing full-length movies online, beginning with Finding Nemo.

The best example of these attempts maybe Hulu, the video portal created by NBC Universal and News Corp. The site offers popular TV shows from both founding companies as well as shows owned by other media firms, including Viacom. Critics have praised the site for delivering high-quality video and for enabling users to embed Hulu videos on other sites.

Hulu has other advantages, such as owning the rights to show all the video it offers, Mark Cuban wrote on his blog Tuesday. Cuban, owner of the National Basketball Association's Dallas Mavericks and the cable channel HDNet, is one of YouTube's biggest critics.

He wrote that Hulu is crushing YouTube in revenue per video and revenue per user primarily because "Hulu has the right to sell advertising in and around every single video on its site," Cuban wrote. "It can package and sell any way that might make its customers happy."

YouTube doesn't have the same luxury because it can advertise only "on the small percentage of videos on its site that it has a licensing deal with" Cuban wrote.

In an e-mail on Wednesday, Cuban was also skeptical that providing long-form content could help YouTube.

"By the letter of the law, YouTube is a hosting service," Cuban said in an e-mail. "They aren't allowed to know what the content of the user uploaded videos they host are. It could be a hard core porn or the daredevil stunt-man movie that is 95-minutes long. Hulu knows exactly what they stream...I think long or short form, Hulu is a better platform to make money from."

On YouTube is copyright content that the company can't sell ads against or else risk losing its protection from lawsuits under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which protects hosting sites and ISPs from being held responsible for illegal acts committed by users.

That brings us to whether YouTube can acquire the rights from networks and studios that have long accused the company of failing to protect copyright.

This is where I think there will be little problem for YouTube. While it has been criticized for dragging its feet on providing filters that protect against piracy, it can provide content creators an audience of 71 million unique users worldwide every month.

If YouTube can deliver movies and TV shows in high quality, entertainment industry executives are going to want to be in front of YouTube's audience.

Greg Sandoval covers media and digital entertainment for CNET News. He is a former reporter for The Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. E-mail Greg, or follow him on Twitter at http://twitter.com/sandoCNET.
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by tcardone05 June 18, 2008 1:23 PM PDT
Only if the capped bandwidth doesn't hit the US, their number one market. But it could work.
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by Zen-Masta June 18, 2008 2:16 PM PDT
Hulu already has full length movies and tv shows and at much better quality than youtube. Youtube is a little late but they could prove to lead this arena if they take a page from hulu
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by Francis_Burdett June 18, 2008 2:51 PM PDT
Are the YouTube comments an additional downside for advertisers?

The comments are often puerile and not uncommonly offensive and I would hold are on average the most likely to cause offense of just about any large website that permits comments.
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by tekwiz4u June 18, 2008 4:47 PM PDT
YouTube is filled with videos of kids spewing out milk from their nose, copied 'Jackass' tricks, and brawls. I dont know what made Yahoo think it'll make money for them. No one is going to sit thru a 2 minute video of utter stupidity unless you're going to brag about it to classmates.
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by forensicmeteoboy June 18, 2008 5:27 PM PDT
No. No. No.

I was an early member of Youtube (joined in Nov 2003). Back then it was cool, because most of the videos were original. Then came pirated material... and Youtube did nothing. It actually used to be a clean site, too. No real cursing or stupid "sexy" videos. And none of the "just put a picture up and play music behind it."

No, I'm done with it now. It's crap. When I found YouTube, I also found Vimeo. And Vimeo is great. Sure, I think they may have tried to be like Flickr a little too hard when they started, but they have succeeded and do an amazing job.... the have HD Video, and even the "SD" quality looks great. And the content is great... no uploaded Japanese Anime here! It's like a breath of fresh air.
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by Screenwriter40 June 18, 2008 7:53 PM PDT
I believe that TV as we know it now will almost die with more and more content available on the Internet. With Internet 2 or 3 and FiberOptic/Satellite/Cable services, TV will prosper on this new medium for generations to come, IMHO. I wish the other Star Trek series were also available to view online as well as all the best Science Fiction films, available for a small fee or free with advertising. Perhaps Sci-Fi Channel will offer great Sci-Fi films on its site in the future, like the Star Trek films, Superman 1, 2, and Returns, Batman 1, 2, 3, 5, Back To The Future 1-3, Alien, Aliens, 2001-A Space Odyssey, Blade Runner, and Star Wars 1-6, to name a few... This would be the ideal time to introduce to a new generation, great films that has inspired so many filmmakers/writers. The Internet is a great tool for TV, don't squander it...

Mark McLaughlin / marknetproductions.wordpress.com / Hudson, MA, USA
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by gerrrg June 18, 2008 8:26 PM PDT
I like Hulu, I just wish I had WiMax to go along with my Hulu. I think Hulu and others in the same vein are a credible threat to the video rental market, including Blockbuster and even Netflix. OnDemand services are even better, except that it's expensive to get cable television. Give me WiMax running at least 4Mbps for under $35 a month and I'll be running wireless broadcasts to my TV of movies direct from Hulu, and my HD content from OTA.
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