Yahoo extends Flickr with video
In a bid to broaden Flickr if not actually crush YouTube, Yahoo is adding videos to what has just been a photo-sharing site.
The change, which the company plans to launch publicly later Tuesday, is a modest but significant extension of Flickr's features. The videos, limited to 90 seconds and 150MB, will be shown as thumbnails alongside users' photos, and will inherit all the features of photos stored on the site: users can add comments, captions, comments, geotags, and privacy restrictions so only friends or family may view the videos, the company said.
Videos are shown on pages similar to photo pages, and videos can be embedded on other sites.
(Credit: Josh Lowensohn/CNET Networks)The company sees the videos in effect as "long photos," moving snapshots people take now that digital cameras (except SLRs) can record video as well as still images, said spokeswoman Terrell Karlsten Neilson. The hope is to populate the site with "authentic" videos, not clips from last night's TV shows, and Yahoo will police the site for violations of the terms of service, added Flickr product manager Shanan Delp..
The company wants to reproduce some of the success of Flickr's photo work not just as a repository of imagery, but also as a way for like-minded folk to form communities. Just as Flickr lets people share photos in groups devoted to One example appears to be emerging among beta testers: the fridget, a video taken from an inside-the-refrigerator perspective as somebody (or even a dog) opens the fridge and peers in.
Only those with "pro" subscriptions will be able to publish videos, but as with photos, those with free Flickr accounts and the public will be able to watch them. The site will support videos in AVI, MPEG, and MOV formats, showing them with a Flash player but storing the original, too. Existing upload tools will work with video, too.
I see Flickr's incremental evolution as likely to succeed, as long as "succeed" is defined relatively narrowly as making Flickr users more active, loyal, or engaged. And after all, Yahoo can reuse the technology it's put together for its Yahoo video site, so design and deployment expenses were likely minimized. It might even coax some folks to spend $25 a year on a pro account, which means revenue for Yahoo.
But as the non-award-winning director of several "authentic" videos of my child that last over 90 seconds, I suspect the 90-second cutoff could be a common problem.
A Flickr video is handled just like a photo, except that there are playback controls. Thumbnail images can play the videos in miniature.
(Credit: Flickr)Yahoo says the company thought carefully about the issue. Most people shoot video clips less than a minute long, so 90 seconds should be "a really comfortable time," Neilson said.
Although Google's YouTube can handle longer clips--up to 10 minutes for regular users--Yahoo believes it doesn't compete. "People aren't using YouTube to share their personal short-form video clips," Neilson said. I beg to differ--take a look at a YouTube search for "daughter's first steps"--but she's probably right that YouTube has a much broader usage model.
A benefit of the time limit is that it should help curtail pirated TV content. "Ninety seconds helps us define that rebroadcasting commercial content is not what this site is for," said Neilson said.
Will Yahoo users and members be confused whether to head to video.yahoo.com or Flickr? Yahoo believes not.
"Video.yahoo.com is all about broadcast...Flickr is more about personal, authentic video clips," Nielson said. Think Barack Obama for video.yahoo.com and Flickr for the clip of your niece, she said.
Stephen Shankland writes about a wide range of technology and products, but has a particular focus on browsers and digital photography. He joined CNET News in 1998 and since then also has covered Google, Yahoo, servers, supercomputing, Linux and open-source software, and science. E-mail Stephen, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/stshank. 
- Just like Yahoo mail vs. Gmail
- by dr.pep April 9, 2008 9:57 AM PDT
- There is no comparison. Gmail wins in almost every category. The only reason Yahoo mail is still around is because lots of people got stuck with it. The new video features for Flickr is only to make the current user less unhappy, but in no way "crush" youtube or even Google video.
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- One big way Yahoo Mail wins
- by Shankland April 9, 2008 12:10 PM PDT
- Is in the vastly larger number of users. As you observe, mail is a sticky application--nobody likes changing e-mail addresses. When it comes to video, YouTube is dominant for sure.
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- Not really..........
- by flickrz April 13, 2008 11:31 AM PDT
- It depends on how you use it. If you like to edit multiple emails at the same time Yahoo mail is the one. It also has so many features google don't. <br />- In built RSS feed<br />- Yahoo News headlines in the home screen<br />- you can have multiple emails open<br />- unlimited storage<br />- advanced addressbook (most of the new features in gmail's new address book are copies of yahoo mail from 2000 such as grouping of contacts etc.)
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