Particle accelerator project sued on fears it will destroy the planet

The creators of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the world's biggest particle accelerator, are being sued in a Hawaii federal court on the grounds that the project could have planet-destroying effects, according to MSNBC's science blog.

Defendants in the case, Europe's CERN Laboratory and Illinois-based Fermilab, have said that the collider is perfectly safe. But former nuclear safety officer Walter Wagner, along with another concerned critic, have asked in a lawsuit that the U.S. Department of Energy, Fermilab, the National Science Foundation, and CERN reassess the collider's security and environmental standards for at least four months before it goes into start-up mode, according to the report. Detractors worry that the collider could create mini black holes that last long enough to suck in matter all around it.

The LHC, designed to test scientific questions like "What's the nature of dark matter?," is expected to start operating later this year at CERN's headquarters in Geneva.

[Michichael]

Oh for the love of... we let these people drive and vote too?

[JTankers]

"A nightmarish situation, that can still be hoped to be averted in time through communication within the scientific community, is drawn attention to. Only a few weeks remain to find out whether the danger is real or nothing but a mirage. After this time window is closed, it will take years until we know whether or not we are doomed. The story line has all the features of a best-selling novel. The reader is asked to contribute constructively."<br /><br />Quote from Dr. Otto E. Rossler, a modern day Leonardo Devinche, Professor of Theoretical Biochemistry, visiting Professor of Theoretical Physics, inventor of the Rossler Attractor, founder of Endophysics, winner of the 2003 Chaos Award of the University of Liege and the 2003 Rene Descartes Award, contributor to hyper chaos, micro relativity and author of approximately 300 scientific papers.<br /><br />Professor Rosslers latest interview with Alan Gillis may be found at (<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.scientificblogging.com/big_science_gambles/professor_rossler_takes_on_the_lhc" target="_newWindow">http://www.scientificblogging.com/big_science_gambles/professor_rossler_takes_on_the_lhc</a>) scientificblogging.com

[WXyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

Man's technology has exceeded his grasp. - 'The World is not Enough' <br />Zealous Nobel Prize hungry Physicists are racing each other and stopping at nothing to try to find the supposed 'Higgs Boson'(aka God) Particle, among others, and are risking nothing less than the annihilation of the Earth and all Life in endless experiments hoping to prove a theory when urgent tangible problems face the planet. The European Organization for Nuclear Research(CERN) new Large Hadron Collider(LHC) is the world's most powerful atom smasher that will soon be firing subatomic particles at each other at nearly the speed of light to create Miniature Big Bangs producing Micro Black Holes, Strangelets and other potentially cataclysmic phenomena.<br />Particle physicists have run out of ideas and are at a dead end forcing them to take reckless chances with more and more powerful and costly machines to create new and never-seen-before, unstable and unknown matter while Astrophysicists, on the other hand, are advancing science and knowledge on a daily basis making new discoveries in these same areas by observing the universe, not experimenting with it and with your life.<br />The LHC is a dangerous gamble as CERN physicist Alvaro De Rújula in the BBC LHC documentary, 'The Six Billion Dollar Experiment', incredibly admits quote, "Will we find the Higgs particle at the LHC? That, of course, is the question. And the answer is, science is what we do when we don't know what we're doing." And CERN spokesmodel Brian Cox follows with this stunning quote, "the LHC is certainly, by far, the biggest jump into the unknown."<br />The CERN-LHC website Mainpage itself states: "There are many theories as to what will result from these collisions,..." Again, this is because they truly don't know what's going to happen. They are experimenting with forces they don't understand to obtain results they can't comprehend. If you think like most people do that 'They must know what they're doing' you could not be more wrong. Some people think similarly about medical Dr.s but consider this by way of comparison and example from JAMA: "A recent Institute of Medicine report quoted rates estimating that medical errors kill between 44,000 and 98,000 people a year in US hospitals." The second part of the CERN quote reads "...but what's for sure is that a brave new world of physics will emerge from the new accelerator,..." A molecularly changed or Black Hole consumed Lifeless World? The end of the quote reads "...as knowledge in particle physics goes on to describe the workings of the Universe." These experiments to date have so far produced infinitely more questions than answers but there isn't a particle physicist alive who wouldn't gladly trade his life to glimpse the "God particle", and sacrifice the rest of us with him. Reason and common sense will tell you that the risks far outweigh any potential(as CERN physicists themselves say) benefits.<br />This quote from National Geographic exactly sums this "science" up: "That's the essence of experimental particle physics: You smash stuff together and see what other stuff comes out."<br />Find out more about that "stuff" below;<br /><a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.SaneScience.org/" target="_newWindow">http://www.SaneScience.org/</a><br /><a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.LHCFacts.org" target="_newWindow">http://www.LHCFacts.org</a><br /><a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/anon1.htm" target="_newWindow">http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/anon1.htm</a><br /><a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.lhcdefense.org/" target="_newWindow">http://www.lhcdefense.org/</a><br /><a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.lhcconcerns.com" target="_newWindow">http://www.lhcconcerns.com</a><br />Popular Mechanics - "World's Biggest Science Project Aims to Unlock 'God Particle'" - <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/4216588.html" target="_newWindow">http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/4216588.html</a>"

[elgatos]

How will we know if we don't try..... that's science!<br />Particle accellerators rock!

[scotta12211]

im only 15 and even i know man is destoring our earth and it seems not even thats enough you want to kill us too! now lets say if it does go right, the next exsperiment might go wrong and not being scared of doing/ learning new thing its being sensible why cant we leave the earth the way it is know but greener? if you think about it we dont need these thing like bombs neclear bombs ect i meen for example why are soldiers dieing in the middle east other oil? it belongs to them it is in their country beside we do have other renewable fuels we could use in stead of fossil fuels eg.water ,cooking oil, sunflower oil and more for cars, wind turbinds wave turbind solar panels ect. all i got ot say is why put a price on a greener earth why does it cost so much?

[illegallydead]

because, kid, things cost money, that's why. We went to war over political reasons, and we obviously are not doing much to "get" there oil. Why don't we use those other technologies you mentioned? Simple answer: Money.<br />Solar and wind are great, but at the moment they cost something like $.50 or much much more per kilowatt-hour to generate, while coal is happily set at $.02 per kilowatt hour. The technology is not perfected, so they are NOT super efficient and are in no way cheap. Same goes for the cars. Changing cars to run on those fuels would cost billions of dollars, which the car companies do not like to spend easily, when they can sell you a perfectly good gas car right now and Make money. Or you, the consumer, who professes your "care" about the environment, would also not like to spend $100,000 on a "green" car that uses these natural fuels of which you speak. And yet, people will buy new cars to be "greener" and "save money". You know what's cheaper? take that POS car you get when you turn 16, drive that SOB into the ground. Drive the hell out of it, and in the end, you will save so much money over buying a new one, because those fuel savings take over 10 years in most cases to even near paying themselves off.<br /><br />Why do we have nuclear bombs? well, like they said when they were making them, it's to counter-intimidate those who were also building them. Because, like it or not, if we take the high road and don't make them, someone else will, and that really sucks for us. So, unless everyone could decide to be decent to one another all at once, we have to continue building up arms to stay "safe" in the world.<br /><br />Welcome to the world of politics kid. And economics. and all the other BS that makes this world suck. We do the best we can. You do the same, perhaps YOU can make a difference, but for gods sake, do not turn out like every other environmentalist who spews ideas of drastic change without a) seeing if it is actually feasible and b) looking at the cost to make these changes.