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February 27, 2008 3:56 AM PST

EU slaps Microsoft with $1.35 billion fine

by Mike Ricciuti

This post was updated several times, most recently at 7:40 a.m. PST, with additional reporting provided by CNET News.com's Dawn Kawamoto.

European Union regulators on Wednesday fined Microsoft a record 899 million euros, or $1.35 billion, for failing to comply with sanctions.

The fine specifically addresses sanctions over the pricing structure Microsoft had set for licensing of its interoperability protocols and patents.

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The pricing issue is the last of three parts of the European Commission's historic March 2004 antitrust order, which called for the software giant to provide complete and accurate interoperability information to rivals so their software could work with the Windows operating system, as well as to license the information "under reasonable and nondiscriminatory" terms.

"We always knew the possibility of a fine (over the licensing fee structure) was...there, but no one knew when it would come or how big it would be," said a source familiar with Microsoft's thinking. "Now the other boot has dropped."

In July 2006, the Commission fined Microsoft 280.5 million euros, or $424 million, for failing to comply with the other two parts of its sanctions related to providing complete and accurate interoperability protocol information to rivals. The original decision from 2004 was upheld by the European Court of First Instance last fall.

In addition to the two fines for failure to comply, Microsoft was originally hit with a 497 million euro levy by the Commission for having abused its dominant market position at the time of that order. (The 497 million euros originally was worth $613 million. Today it converts to $752 million.)

The newest fine, announced Wednesday, is the largest ever imposed by the EU upon a single company. In total, the European regulators have fined Microsoft roughly $2.5 billion in the long-running antitrust dispute.

Neelie Kroes

(Credit: European Community)

"Microsoft was the first company in 50 years of EU competition policy that the Commission has had to fine for failure to comply with an antitrust decision. I hope that today's decision closes a dark chapter in Microsoft's record of noncompliance with the Commission's March 2004 decision," EU Competition Commissioner Neelie Kroes said in a statement.

The ruling comes just one week after Microsoft announced a broad interoperability strategy, which included a pledge to not sue open-source developers.

"As we demonstrated last week with our new interoperability principles and specific actions to increase the openness of our products, we are focusing on steps that will improve things for the future," Microsoft said in a statement.

Although Microsoft's announcement and the Commission's fine come within days of each other, one source said the two were not related. Microsoft's announcement last week addressed how the software maker would apply the Court of First Instance's ruling to the rest of its business, according to the source.

In its new order, the Commission specifically said that Microsoft had charged "unreasonable prices for access to interface documentation for work group servers."

According to the EU's ruling, Microsoft initially had demanded a royalty rate of 3.87 percent of a licensee's product revenues for a patent license and a rate of 2.98 percent for a license giving access to the secret interoperability information. In May 2007, following complaints by the Commission, Microsoft reduced its royalty rates to 0.7 percent for a patent license and 0.5 percent for an information license within the EU. Worldwide rates remained unchanged.

On October 22, 2007, Microsoft began providing a license that gives access to the interoperability information for a flat fee of 10,000 euros and an optional worldwide patent license for a reduced royalty of 0.4 percent of licensees' product revenues, the Commission said.

The view from the competition
Microsoft's competitors and adversaries wasted no time in weighing in.

The European Committee for Interoperable Systems applauded the Commission's move.

"Commissioner Kroes is to be commended for her perseverance over the last three years in the face of Microsoft's foot dragging and appeals to the Court of First Instance," Thomas Vinje, ECIS legal counsel, said in a statement.

ECIS, which comprises Microsoft rivals Oracle, RealNetworks, Sun Microsystems, IBM, and others, further characterized Redmond as preferring to pay antitrust fines rather than allowing "merit-based competition" to occur in the marketplace.

Last month, the Commission announced it was initiating a formal investigation into Microsoft, focusing on potential antitrust violations regarding bundling of its products with its dominant operating system.

Browser maker Opera Software had initiated a complaint to the Commission, alleging that Microsoft was violating antitrust laws by tying its Internet Explorer browser to its Windows operating system. Opera highlighted concerns that Microsoft was adding new proprietary technologies into its browser that diminished interoperability with open Internet standards.

As part of its investigation, the Commission said it would also look into a complaint by ECIS. That complaint alleges that Microsoft refused to disclose interoperability information for a broad range of its products, including its Office suite, server-related products, and .Net framework.

Mike Ricciuti joined CNET in 1996. He is now CNET News' Boston-based executive editor and east coast bureau chief, serving as department editor for business technology and software covered by CNET News, Reviews, and Download.com. E-mail Mike.
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A bit Harsh?
by Gerry1981 February 27, 2008 4:16 AM PST
I can understand a couple of million, but over a BILLION??
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Government is extortion
by bitjack February 27, 2008 4:31 AM PST
It may seem harsh if you think the purpose of government is to protect you. However, if you understand that governments are implemented for the sole purpose of extortion, it makes perfect sense. Any more, and they may break Microsoft and not be able to bleed them again next quarter. Any less, and they would be leaving money on the table.
No, not that harsh...
by S.M. Iseger February 27, 2008 5:00 AM PST
Remember three things if you think this fine is harsh:

1. The fine is in euro's at 899 million euro; it's the exchange rate
that makes that well over one billion USD;

2. MS is the first company in 50 years that has failed to comply
with an EU anti-trust decision;

3. MS is a multi-billion dollar company. Fining them a couple of
million would be utterly useless. I doubt even this huge fine will
hurt them even slightly.

At least the EU has shown the balls to act on MS behaviour,
unlike the US!
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Nothing is harsh for Microsoft, remember
by Fil0403 March 1, 2008 1:27 PM PST
Who cares, it's Microsoft, everyone will be happy and, plus, if you need or want money, what better and easier way to get it than simply fining a rich company multiple times for basically the same reason just because they happen to be the incontested market leaders?
Ouch!
by rcrusoe February 27, 2008 4:49 AM PST
Looks like they'll need to call their banker and tell him they want to
borrow even more money to buy Yahoo!
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A matter of option
by giant_david February 27, 2008 4:51 AM PST
I use Linux for desktop, servers and enforce its use to my students.

That said, I think it is a political issue. Of course the EU don't want an US company(msft) domination.

What option do MS have? Give up this market?

On the other hand, EU court is doing its job well. Why wouldn't an Asian or a Latin American gov. do the same? Just because MS "lobby" will "work" at those countries. If you know what I mean.
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If this were a European company...
by nyte3k February 27, 2008 5:30 AM PST
I wonder if this would be happening if Microsoft was a European company. I'm not a Microsoft fan by any means, but it seems like the EU just won't let up with them.
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European companies get fined too!
by S.M. Iseger February 27, 2008 7:26 AM PST
If you think that the EU is only after fining American companies,
think again. Less then a year ago the European Commission fined
Heineken, which is Dutch, 220 million euro for operating a price-
fixing cartel in European markets. Bavaria and Grolsch were also
fined...
Don't bite the hand that feeds you
by Vegaman_Dan February 27, 2008 7:49 AM PST
Since the EU is funded through member countries and fines imposed, they wouldn't be too smart to go after corporations in countries they control too much. You can only milk the cow too much there.
i got to agree
by jsnunya February 27, 2008 9:39 AM PST
If MS were a from say... France... they may get fined, but i bet it wouldn't be neary 3 billion U.S.

im tired of all the anti-MS antitrust whining and lawsuits, as any OSx or Linux fanboy will tell you there are better systems to be had....

my $.02
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MS are the only non-compliant company in 50 years
by t8 February 27, 2008 3:31 PM PST
Obviously European companies have complied to antitrust orders.
How long will
by suyts February 27, 2008 5:31 AM PST
the U.S. stand by and let the EU extort money from this American company. It seems the EU won't be happy until MS opens all proprietary property to the public. I thought our trade agreements with the EU promised to respect our IP laws. Apparently now, if one was to innovate something that sells well abroad, they'll just have to turn over all trade secrets, schematics, and design to the EU so some European company can replicate it. George Washington warned us about entering agreements with foreign nations. Seems he was right. Soon the EU will leave us no choice. Retaliate or withdraw. Either would be fine with me.
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It will go on
by The_Decider February 27, 2008 8:52 AM PST
Until Microsoft starts respecting and following the laws.

This is Microsoft's fault. They do not have a leg to stand on, just because they were able to bribe their way lout of trouble in the US doesn't mean that all governments need to cave in to the evil empire.
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This Has Got To Be All About The "Money"!
by Commander_Spock February 27, 2008 5:31 AM PST
Here is why: This article in parts states; "The sanctions stem from a 2004 ruling, upheld by an EU court last year, that Microsoft had withheld information from rivals on how to interoperate with its software...". How in the world can this make any technological sense when there is "SAMBA" for "Opening Windows to a Wider World:

"Samba is an Open Source/Free Software suite that has, since 1992, provided file and print services to all manner of SMB/CIFS clients, including the numerous versions of Microsoft Windows operating systems. Samba is freely available under the GNU General Public License".

http://us1.samba.org/samba/

Therefore as the subject line states - "It Has To Be All About The Money"!
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All about ticking off the EU
by ppgreat February 27, 2008 6:29 AM PST
Obviously MS is being made an example of in this instance. That
said, the sanction fits the company. Anything less would not get
their attention.

As to Samba, it is not a perfect solution and has its glitches in
working with MS technology. Ask anyone who has tried to
integrate their Mac into a Windows environment.

In light of Microsoft's history, this sanction is very fair.
Samba didn't have any help from MS
by herkamur February 27, 2008 7:20 AM PST
The creation of Samba was completely independent of Microsoft. CIFS was reverse engineered by the Samba developers without documentation from Microsoft. So, the EU's argument holds. Microsoft didn't provide any interoperability information to help with the creation of Samba.
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Cha-Ching...
by Zaunto February 27, 2008 9:31 AM PST
I have to agree that it's about the money.

Naturally Microsoft's rivals will gang up on them and tout this ruling as being fair and just, which in this case, I don't think it is. Who is having widespread interoperability problems with Microsoft products? Seems to me that it's in Microsoft's best interest to have others make products that work with Windows. Since the EU appears to be fining them left and right for this and that, it seems to me to be all about money. Think about it- They decided to fine them a couple days AFTER an announcement on an interoperability initiative? Give me a break.
Did you know.....
by chash360 February 27, 2008 2:08 PM PST
Do you know how the Remote desktop access protocols work? Does anyone else?

This, along with many other things are what is being sought, there is not just competitive infromation that M$ is withholding, its downright scarey the security issues, and unknown risks that M$ has created.

Do you trust M$ with all of your personal information?, Access to your computer? security flaws that could allow others access? Hidden features to enable hackers? Deliberate violations and deviations of standard security protocols they claim to support? The ability to shut your system down anytime they want, when you connect to the internet?

If you think these concerns are paranoid dribble you have blinders on. It does not matter that there are alternate options, that does not equivically imply people have a choice.

I can not choose to use Mac in all of my work environment, even though the option is available, it will not do certain things I need. In other circumstances the Mac is my only choice, for certain work.

M$ being the dominant market share, to in effect a stabndardizing body, has a responsibility to adhere to those standards, and at the very least publish deviations from documented standards.

What if a different standards conforming body were to behave like this, say the power company? And they decided that they could serve more customers by changing the line voltage or frequency, thereby affecting all current users disabling many devices, and then worse by not letting anyone know what that new voltage or frequency was such that only they could develope devices for it?

Is that right in your eyes?
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EU Commission is the true gangster on the block!
by plee9 February 27, 2008 6:27 AM PST
How can you charge someone for demanding high price? This group of oldies is the true monopoly. Has Europe gone communism or something? They act as though they don't understand how open economy works.
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Who's the gangster?
by RamonFHerrera February 27, 2008 6:37 AM PST
> How can you charge someone for demanding high price?

Just like all the other M$ apologists, you chose to ignore a crucial fact. Let me make clear for you.

WHEN YOU ARE A MONOPOLY, THE USUAL RULES DO NOT APPLY ANYMORE. YOU DIDN'T PLAY BY THE RULES, AND HENCE CANNOT EXPECT TO BE TREATED BY THE NORMAL RULES.

You say: "How come that poor guy is in a room with iron bars? Don't they have freedom of movement in this country?"

Once again: Wear your glasses: THE GUY IS A CHILD MOLESTER.

> They act as though they don't understand how open economy works.

YOU act like you don't understand how "open economy" works. Incidentally: it is called "free market", or "capitalism" not open economy.

-RFH
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Anti-Competetive, covers more than just monopoly
by chash360 February 27, 2008 1:06 PM PST
Anti-Competetive behavior is what is be fined for, not just the state of being a monopoly.

If you are the only person who produces and sells books in language X, then you are a monopoly. Lucky you, there is nothing wrong with this.

When someone else comes along and prints a new story in that language X, and attempts to sell it and you attempt to prevent or usurp them, mass producing a similar story in that language X and bundling it with your best seller, you are breaking the law, you are being anti-competetive.

Especially when you start to try to change the language, everytime a competitor shows up, such that competitors can no longer write in that language....

This is of course an over simplification, but you get the idea.
MS is the gangster
by t8 February 27, 2008 3:51 PM PST
MS is the gangster and the EU is the police.

If you break the law, you are a criminal. You will then be penalized for your crime.

This is basic stuff, but obviously this needs to be explained to you.

Surely you have heard the saying, if you can't do the time (pay the fine) don't do the crime.
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Ignorance of U. S. Are No Excuse...
by Commander_Spock February 27, 2008 6:29 AM PST
... for this EU stupidity.

Read this article: "Software Patents for Methods of Doing Business?A Second Class Citizen No More" by "Arnold B. Silverman" which states inter alia:

"For many years, anyone seeking to patent the use of a computer for functions that were previously performed manually had double trouble if the invention related to a ?way of doing business.? First, the Patent and Trademark Office decided that mathematical algorithms were not a statutory category of subject matter that could be protected by patent. Second, ?business methods? were held to be unpatentable. These two objections have been eroded over the years.

Recently, software inventions involving algorithms have been eligible for United States patents as long as tangible results are produced. Also, in the mid-1980s, Merrill Lynch won a court ruling that it was entitled to have a patent on its Cash Management System, which involved various types of processing of financial data by computer.

In 1998, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in the State Street case destroyed the last remnant of the ?method of doing business? objection to obtaining a patent. It ruled that no legal basis exists for such an exception to patentability and that if an invention otherwise meets the standards for patentability, there is no legitimate basis for denying the issuance of a patent. This ruling was made for a software invention that used computerized processing to establish a system for pooling of assets of mutual funds.

The State Street decision, combined with the rapid growth of e-commerce, has led to a large number of patent filings on software inventions related to a method of doing business. Amazon.com, for example, patented its ?1-click? system, which enhances the speed and efficiency with which a customer can place an order..."

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/matters/matters-0012.html

Also, The "Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution" states inter alia:

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Simply put - "You Get What You Pay For"; otherwise , it is intellectual dishonesty.
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Ooops...
by Commander_Spock February 27, 2008 6:31 AM PST
That subject line should have been "Ignorance of U. S. Laws Are No Excuse...
This is a joke, right?
by ppgreat February 27, 2008 6:32 AM PST
Microsoft has proven itself time and again to be an acquirer or
copier of tech, not an innovator.

The EU is not driving American business from its shores as your
post implies.

It is simply not allowing MS to ignore the rules in another
country nor to behave in the same predatory fashion that earned
it the distinction of 'convicted monopolist' in the US.
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EU Dictatorships or Panhandling?
by Vegaman_Dan February 27, 2008 7:38 AM PST
I find it very interesting that the EU's funding comes from two sources- the sponsoring countries it represents (which are having trouble keeping up with the operating costs the EU has) and from fines it imposes.

The EU is financially in trouble. Now they fine a large corporation that is out of their coverage area a huge fine that will to their own coffers and not to the countries they support.

I see a conflict of interest here. Granted, this is the EU and they can set whatever laws they want and nobody has any input on it unless you are a resident of the member countries.

I'm curious how they set the amount of the fine. Do they look at their ledgers and determine what they need for an operating budget and then go after others for this income? It seems awfully convenient.

As the EU sets the regulations for what they consider to be an antitrust, they are pretty much free to do what they will. Even if MS complied with every demand (and there is no doubt of what this is), somehow I feel they would have still claimed foul and charged a fine- they do need to get their money some how, right?

Webster's has a definition for this:

ex-tor-tion

noun 1. an act or instance of extorting.

2. Law. the crime of obtaining money or some other thing of value by the abuse of one's office or authority.

3. oppressive or illegal exaction, as of excessive price or interest: the extortions of usurers.

4. anything extorted.


Now while this may apply to the Unitied States, the EU is free to call it whatever they wish. There is nothing Microsoft can do about this. The EU has gone after Apple and Boeing for money as well. It's legal for the EU to do this in their member countries.

Imagine if the US Government decided to do this to non-US countries like Shell Petroleum, Arco, Toyota, etc? Hmm... now that I think of it, perhaps this is a way the US can get back some of the huge oil profits. The EU has set the way. Heh. Wishful thinking, I know.
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GOOD!
by paul.saulnier February 27, 2008 7:54 AM PST
If the U.S. authorities are going to be wimps with their treatment of Microsoft, it's good to see that this BS doesn't fly in the EU. A couple million would be nothing for a company this size, except a cost of doing business. A couple billion is a sizable enough chunk that maybe Microsoft will start doing business properly.
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When are you going to take off the "blinders" you are wearing!
by Commander_Spock February 27, 2008 8:19 AM PST
"it's good to see that this BS doesn't fly in the EU" what the heck are you talking about "a pig". On the other hand one thing that can "fly" is AIRBUS 380; and, from all appearances it cannot fly anywhere and if the airport modifications around the world are not done then the world might just see AIRBUS 380 "flying" in the EU only. If this is the "GOOD!" that you are talking about then thats just "fine"!
What exactly is MS doing
by suyts2 February 27, 2008 9:11 AM PST
that you believe warrents a fine. Offering a product that you can choose to buy or not? Trying to protect their own intellectual property? Take off your "I hate MS" blinders and realize the precident that this is making. The EU is trying to force MS to share its IP with its competitors. If they can do that to MS, they can and will do it to any other U.S. company they see fit. How many jobs to you think that 1.3billion just cost the American economy? Left unchecked, how many more will be lost? This isn't about MS, its is about the EU imposing its will on U.S. companies.
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The E.U. Are Socialist Scumbags!
by WJeansonne February 27, 2008 7:59 AM PST
The only reason they slapped a fine on Microsoft was to prop up their fairly new socialist regime. It's as simple as that. They saw a gold mine and went after it from day one. I think it's high time the U.S. retaliate by slapping an enormous fine on BMW, Thomson and other huge European conglomerates.
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Microsoft calculates everything
by onlyauser February 27, 2008 8:09 AM PST
None of this really even dents today's software playing field. Microsoft uses it's money to play with time.

If you know anything about football the MS defence is running the rivals out of bounds as the MS offence charges up the gut with punishing running plays. All the while running the clock down on these companies.

This is a different kind of game and apparently MS knew of the fines and went ahead with their plans regardless. I for one believe MS does the math every single time and found that they would make more going with their plan and just taking the fines if they ever came.

Everyone needs to realize that Microsoft calculated all of this long befre it happened.

This is the Microsoft MO. Just look at the history it is the same play and stunt moves over and over again. MS simply has such a strong strangle-hold in our society that this company does exactly what it wants to do.
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Wow
by The_Decider February 27, 2008 8:56 AM PST
More ignorance from you.

Microsoft can not do what it wants. It is an illegal monopoly and has to follow the rules set up for it.

They had four years to come into compliance and didn't. This is the result of arrogance on the part of Microsoft.

What US laws have BMW violated? Why should they be fined? MS bribed its way out of sanctions in the US, why cry because the EU isn't as corrupt as the US government?

I am curious, how do you remember to breathe?
Oh, the indignity of it all..........
by m.o.t.u. February 27, 2008 11:26 AM PST
perhaps the complete absence of scrutiny & regulatory requirements conglomerates such as Haliburton and it's affiliates experience may go someways to re-assure you that the Capitalist Business Model can still find areas of the globe in which to operate.

If we cast our minds back, not to far, we might also recall that golden period when U.S. Owned agricultural conglomerates operated in South America, also unburdened by regulation & scrutiny.

I don't understand enough of the E.U. problem to say what's right or wrong in that particular instance, however your alarmist diatribe, followed by an "economic call to arms" displays an almost atypical belligerence, compounded by a distinct unwillingness to view the situation in anyway that doesn't fit your U.S.- centric world view.

Red's under the Beds - how 1950's, it's time to move on, please.
Big deal...Microsoft does not seem to care.
by onlyauser February 27, 2008 7:59 AM PST
Big deal...Microsoft does not seem to care.

Sure they roll a little this way or that to ajust just a wee bit but to MS this is just tiddly-winks.

Microsoft does not seem that bothered by these fines.
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it'd be funny
by rnieves1977 February 27, 2008 12:47 PM PST
if microsoft actually didn't pay a dime and the whole thing turned into this huge mess. Then at the very last minute when they have billions in fine they say... "You know what, we didn't like Europe anyhow. Build your own damn operating system..."
That would be epic...
-0-
by meski.oz February 27, 2008 6:58 PM PST
Suggesting, as some have, that the EU could regard the fine as a substantial percentage of their revenue has just got to be dismissed as delusional ravings too.
The fine????
by hassan_bin_sober February 27, 2008 8:03 AM PST
Threaten to cut off Bill's Nuts, that will make a bigger impression on MS than a cash payout.
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Suppose MS pays up
by Vegaman_Dan February 27, 2008 8:08 AM PST
Let's just toss this idea out for consideration.

Suppose that MS met the demands of the EU and paid the fine. That should satisfy the EU and they would have no reason at all to go after them further, right?

Somehow I suspect they would find something else to go after at that point. Why let a cash cow get away, after all?

I believe they would keep going after then with fine after fine after fine. If you can't find laws they are violating, then make some up and do it that way. As long as you can still milk that cow, it really doesn't matter.

I know this is all originally supposed to be about the actual consumers in the EU member countries, but I believe they got left out of the equatin a long time ago. I'd be impressed if the EU took the fines and paid those consumers, but I doubt that would actually happen.
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Microsoft is breaking EU laws
by onlyauser February 27, 2008 8:13 AM PST
Microsoft is breaking EU laws. Again, this or the fines do not matter to Microsoft.
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Wrong as usual
by The_Decider February 27, 2008 8:58 AM PST
The fine is for not following the rules for four years.

What you basically said is "a bank robber did his time so he should be able to continue robbing banks without penalty".

That is a new low in logic, even for you.
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That is so ignorant
by t8 February 27, 2008 3:39 PM PST
When you break the law you pay the price.
When you break a big law you pay a big price.

Microsoft is the only company in 50 years to not comply. They have infringed in a pretty big way.

Do you think giving a murderer 30 days in prision will deter him from doing it again?

Likewise if the fine is not going to hurt Microsoft, then they will continue to break the law.

Simple as that.
Not so easy
by RacerX7 February 27, 2008 8:12 AM PST
Few EU firms have monopoly power in the U.S., which is what the core of this case is about.
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Oops..meant to be a reply to WJeansonne
by RacerX7 February 27, 2008 8:17 AM PST
Need...more...coffee...
Exactly, what monopoly power
by suyts2 February 27, 2008 8:49 AM PST
are you inferring that MS has in the EU? Really, I'd like to know what they are selling that is exclusive.
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It was all written. Not a sould should be surprised.
by onlyauser February 27, 2008 8:21 AM PST
The EU had its motives and knew exactly what they were doing and the fines and everything else are calculated based on financial information not so randon fine out of the air.

Micrsoft had detailed satalite maps of this battle field and felt is was a wiser move to keep the MS ball in play and just take the fine if it ever came.

Don't kid yourself. The EU knew what would happen. MS knew. MS just decided to take the more lucrative path. This is a repeat of history.

Simple
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BS
by sal-magnone February 27, 2008 8:22 AM PST
Protectionism at it's best.
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Give me a break...
by onlyauser February 27, 2008 8:25 AM PST
...every player is dirty. They are all greedy goons ripping off the people.
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What a shame..
by jsargent February 27, 2008 8:25 AM PST
I just a shame so many Americans choose to show their ignorance. Complete rubbish about dictatorship and socialist regimes when they don't know a thing about other countries or politics, political models or which parties are in power. M$ is a great company but there are some unethical practices it chose to do that both the US courts and the EU courts have taken action on. However, even though they were found guilty in a US court for some other nasty practices what penalty did they give them. Maybe the judges in the US courts were "anti-American"?
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Don't you know your history!
by Commander_Spock February 27, 2008 8:37 AM PST
What do you think led to the "Boston Tea Party"!
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Ancient history....
by suyts2 February 27, 2008 10:00 AM PST
So what other company has the EU compelled to give up its intellectual property? Didn't the EU promise to respect the U.S.'s IP laws? What logic dictates the EU's imposing of the fine? It is very difficult not to feel a bias against America when the EU's actions are such.
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Back up jsargent
by jgeprogrammer February 27, 2008 1:48 PM PST
I am sorry, but you are making just as ignorant comment as the other person did by stating the EU is a dictatorship and socialist regime. Not all Americans believe the EU is an evil dictatorship and socialist regime. I am an american and I believe it is great; the EU has finally done what the US courts were not able to do. M$ has been a bully for many many years, either stealing ideas from their competitors or buying their competitors.
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Clueless
by mackenzie2881 February 27, 2008 8:44 AM PST
Why do you say Europe has a socialist regime?
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Perhaps....
by Commander_Spock February 27, 2008 8:48 AM PST
... nothing much has changed since that "dude" that lived in Europe and who was around during 1939 - 1945 that felt that the rest of the world revolved around Europe. Duh!
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faq The basics and the fine print on Microsoft's options for those eyeing the next operating system from Redmond.
• Full Windows 7 coverage

Road Trip 2009: Big Sky Country

CNET News reporter Daniel Terdiman takes his car full of gadgets to the Rockies and the Great Plains in search of tech, science, nature, and more.
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