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February 12, 2008 4:00 AM PST

Microsoft may pick own services over Yahoo's

by Elinor Mills

While Microsoft and Yahoo do the M&A dance, a big question lingers: which parts of Yahoo would survive if the deal were to go through?

Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer has said if his company's proposed acquisition of Yahoo goes through, the Yahoo consumer brand would live on, which could be the death knell for MSN. Microsoft has said Windows Live and Office Live brands will likely stay, but Windows Live could be winnowed down.

The brands have different strengths in different regions. While they jockey for second place to Google in the U.S. market, Yahoo is hugely popular in Asia and Microsoft does very well in Europe. Eliminating the bigger brand in any particular region could send those users to Google and mean fewer ad dollars.

Then comes the regulatory question: would merging the companies pose any threats to competition in any markets? Google Chief Legal Officer David Drummond has warned that Microsoft could try to use the merger to extend "unfair practices from browsers and operating systems to the Internet."

That statement may be a bit of an overreaction and even hypocritical, but antitrust experts say there are some areas that could be murky with the proposed merger.

Regulatory perspective
Regulators may look at how the merger would affect the Internet advertising market, just like they did with Google's proposal to acquire DoubleClick. U.S. regulators have approved that deal, but the review is pending in the European Commission. The U.S. Federal Trade Commission found that Google and DoubleClick were not direct competitors in any relevant market. Google is the king of search advertising and DoubleClick is strong in display advertising.

Yahoo has nearly 19 percent of the display ad market in the U.S. and Microsoft has nearly 7 percent, bringing their combined share to about 26 percent, while Google only has 1 percent, according to ComScore. In paid search, which so far has proven more lucrative, Google has about 70 percent market share in the U.S. That's compared with Yahoo's 9 percent share, with Microsoft's being much less than Yahoo's, according to eMarketer.

"One place to look would be, will the combination of the two companies lessen competition in the markets for Internet advertising?" said J. Bruce McDonald, an antitrust lawyer at Jones Day, a former deputy assistant attorney general with the U.S. Department of Justice's antitrust division.

Given that the FTC has already said it considers the display and search ad markets as discrete, this is likely not to be too much of an issue.

Looking at the e-mail and instant-messaging markets, a combined company would have about 75 percent of each worldwide, with 58 percent in the U.S. That compares to Google's 15 percent share in e-mail and 1 percent or less share in IM, according to ComScore figures.

Although combining these two heavy hitters in these markets creates a powerhouse, consumers have many options, so chances are regulators won't be concerned. However, the regulatory review could take into account the relationship between Web-based applications and desktop software and how much they compete.

"If the future of computing is going to be determined in part by the competition between putting the smarts of the computer on your desktop or in a central location where users get it off the Internet, then Microsoft and Yahoo will be competitors," said McDonald.

Which services would win out?
Would Microsoft choose to keep its own businesses in these overlapping areas, or not? It's hard to tell.

Microsoft will want to have one ad platform so that marketers have one set of tools to use and one interface. It's likely to go with its own AdCenter given all the investment it has made, including the acquisition of ad firm Aquantive, and the demographic tools that Yahoo doesn't have, said Matt Rosoff, an analyst at Directions on Microsoft. (Rosoff is also a contributor to the CNET Blog Network.) The company would gain lots of inventory on Yahoo sites and Yahoo's network of publishers.

Microsoft is so new to search that it could defer to the more senior algorithms Yahoo acquired from Inktomi, but then retain some of the Live Search interface, Rosoff said.

There is already interoperability between the IM applications and it's a toss up as to which brand will live on. Integration of the different e-mail systems is more troublesome. Given the confusion Microsoft has created with its MSN, Hotmail, and Live services, the company could choose to keep the Yahoo brand, which recently got an overhaul that makes it more desktop-like.

"The Yahoo brand has more cachet among consumers," said Allen Weiner, an analyst at Gartner.

As far as mobile, Yahoo Go has a slick interface, but Microsoft has already established paths to hardware with its Mobile CE operating system and deals with AT&T and Verizon. And Microsoft just announced on Monday that it is acquiring T-Mobile Sidekick maker Danger, which gives Redmond yet another mobile operating system. This is another area where there is likely to be much debate over which to choose.

They also overlap in content sites, with strengths in different areas. Yahoo's popular Finance is likely to stay, as well as My Yahoo, Yahoo Answers, and Flickr. Microsoft's bird's eye view and 3D map viewer plug-in give it the advantage on maps. With video, it could go either way, with both eclipsed by YouTube.

Whatever Microsoft does, the integration of everything from technology teams to infrastructure and services will take years to accomplish. As the acquiring company, Microsoft is likely to favor its own technologies over Yahoo's in areas where there is not a clear leader. Microsoft also designs with software and services in mind, which creates more of an incentive to maintain its products.

CNET News.com's Ina Fried contributed to this report.
Elinor Mills covers Internet security and privacy. She joined CNET News in 2005 after working as a foreign correspondent for Reuters in Portugal and writing for The Industry Standard, the IDG News Service, and the Associated Press. E-mail Elinor.
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Microsoft and Yahoo are just trying to fend off the next Google
by Manhattan2 February 12, 2008 6:12 AM PST
This Computer and Internet industry is not rocket science! That is why Microsoft has to try so hard to squeeze out or acquire startups. Who has the next big idea is the real question. The coding and databases can be set up almost overnight. Google "Sensible Ventures" and you will find where big ideas are powering a NASA like exploration into the future of information technologies and some real rocket science also.
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Microsoft should just improve on MS branding
by fred dunn February 12, 2008 7:30 AM PST
and totally blow off the yahoo deal. That would give them the same capital they would have spent on an aging Yahoo infrastructure and dedicate that to building more MS datacenters around the world and start taking on Google slowly.

A journey of a thousand miles starts with one step and that step should not be buying a "has been" Yahoo.
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agreed
by rdgadz February 12, 2008 8:07 AM PST
there is no technology that microsoft can gain from this deal, only users and clients. In my opinion MS has better products than google and yahoo.
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Why didn't Ballmer just license the search engine?
by CharlesRovira February 12, 2008 8:22 AM PST
Typical chair throwing bully scare tactic.

If the search engine is what he wanted, it would be so much cheaper and easier to license it.

But this get Microsoft's name in the news (and puts them in the EU's antitrust spotlight again [http://and maybe the US's DOJ's radar, if they ever grow some balls again.|http://and maybe the US's DOJ's radar, if they ever grow some balls again.])
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So go work for google
by SqlserverCode February 12, 2008 8:23 AM PST
First of all this deal is not done yet
for all the 1000 people getting laid off, Google wants you

http://otherthingsnow.blogspot.com/2005/10/google-interview-questions-they-are.html
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Riverdance at Yahoo!
by lonestarState February 12, 2008 8:36 AM PST
A merger between Yahoo! and Microsoft would be the worst thing that Yahoo! could ever do. There is no benefit to Yahoo! other than a temporarily higher stock price.

The important question to ask is what does Microsoft have to offer Yahoo! other than it's money?

The answer is very simple absolutely NOTHING! Microsoft services are all redundant to those of Yahoo! and worst of all not one Internet service Microsoft offers supersedes those of Yahoo!. A Microsoft control of Yahoo! would be like a drunken man driving a race car... NOT GOOD!

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This isn't likely to be good for Yahoo! or Microsoft
by rcrusoe February 12, 2008 9:58 AM PST
IMO, Microsoft has a history of buying good companies and
turning them into mediocre companies, and if they handle
Yahoo! the way they did Hotmail, RAV, etc. they will lose both
customers and users.

I have to agree with Scoble on this one. He said something
along the lines of:

You can't get an eagle by breeding two turkeys.
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Ugh, keep Yahoo Maps please!
by gsmiller88 February 12, 2008 10:37 AM PST
Microsoft's map service doesn't even work with users outside of
Windows.
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To do that would scuttle the value of the deal
by rdean February 12, 2008 2:42 PM PST
If Microsoft chooses its own services over Yahoo!'s, it's going to have a hard time keeping the the intellectual capital (i.e., smart people) on board, let alone the customers who chose Yahoo!'s offerings over Microsoft's. Basically Yahoo! would look like Netscape after the AOL buyout.

The only ones happy about this deal are the big institutional investors that own boatloads of stock in both companies.
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LOL The masses don't use M$ stuff in large numbers now...
by JCPayne February 13, 2008 3:40 PM PST
Why would they want to after actually having used Yahoo before????
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yehaa
by se.rev February 16, 2008 9:31 PM PST
yehaa yipee Ilike google
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