Web 2.0 cage match: Microsoft vs. Yahoo

The potential merger of Microsoft and Yahoo will put the two companies' Web apps in internal conflict. In some cases, a Microsoft app might replace a Yahoo app. But in more cases, products from Yahoo, a company built for the online platform, will be the ones to survive. Here are likely outcomes from what would surely become a multiyear internal struggle.

Portals and start pages: Yahoo.com vs. MSN.com

Portal pages like My Yahoo and MSN.com, and their personal page counterparts My Yahoo and My MSN, act as big advertisements to whatever products and media the company wants to push on a given day. Yahoo and MSN will likely keep their distinct brands for a good long time while the underlying platforms and user bases are merged. On the surface, the products themselves are more alike than different. But online content and indexing is Yahoo's main business; it will pick up this battle. Winner: Yahoo.

Search: Search.yahoo.com vs. Live.com

Yahoo, founded on Internet search, has three times the search market share of Microsoft. Microsoft will kill its good-money-after-bad Web search project and move its users over to Yahoo. Winner: Yahoo.

Email: Yahoo Mail vs. Hotmail

I give the nod to the killer development team over at Yahoo, which came over in the OddPost acquisition. While most of those people are now on other Yahoo projects, the OddPost platform is slick and innovative. Microsoft could slowly move its users over. Winner: Yahoo.

Mapping: Yahoo Local Maps vs. Live Search Maps

Microsoft has the pretty bird's eye view and a 3D map viewer plug-in (which is cool but slow on many machines). But Yahoo has a better fundamental mapping product that allows click-and-drag rerouting. Google Maps is still more useful than both. Winner: a merger, hopefully, of Microsoft's features with Yahoo's nicer UI.

Photo sharing. Flickr vs. Live Spaces

Even though I think Flickr is too weird for the real world and that Yahoo should not have killed its straightforward and smooth Yahoo Photos, Microsoft buries its photo site in its blogging platform, Live Spaces. It's a nice tool but the content and the users have hewn to Flickr, due to its community-forward features like group tags and its open API. Winner: Yahoo.

Bookmarking: Delicious vs. Listas

Ever heard of Listas? Exactly. Winner: Yahoo. (Actually, Microsoft has money in Digg, but it doesn't own it.)

Video sharing: Yahoo Video vs. MSN Video

Both companies have capable video posting and sharing services, but neither has the rabid community of YouTube. Winner: Neither.

Social Networking. Mash vs. Wallop? Really?

Please. These sites are experiments. Wallop isn't even inside the Microsoft walls; it's a spin-out. The time for this kind of messing around is over. The merged company should buy Facebook during the inevitable upcoming valuation backlash. Winner: Neither.

Blogging: Yahoo 360 vs. Microsoft Live Spaces

Both are decent platforms. But neither have the flexibility of WordPress or TypePad or Blogger blogs, nor the clarity of focus of a personal blog site like Vox. Winner: Neither.

Instant messaging: Yahoo Instant Messenger vs. MSN Instant Messenger

These two IM networks already allow users to communicate across them, which speaks well of both companies. A merger of user accounts is the next step. Yahoo has a more flexible collection of interfaces to its platform, thanks to its integration into Yahoo Mail. Both Yahoo and Microsoft have Web clients. Winner: Yahoo.

Mobile: Go vs. Windows Mobile

Yahoo has the superior mobile portal, Go 3.0. However, Microsoft has its own mobile operating system. I smell synergy. Winner: Both.

Mashup tools: Pipes vs. PopFly

These are both really clever products, but with limited audiences. My anecdotal observation says that more people are using Pipes to build experimental Web apps. Winner, Yahoo, not that it matters all that much.

User authentication: OpenID vs. Live ID

Microsoft was ahead of Yahoo in trying to create a universal Web log-in scheme, called Passport. The updated version is called Live ID, but no major non-Microsoft products use it. Yahoo recently pledged support for the OpenID standard, which is gradually becoming a standard for Web 2.0 authentication. Winner: Yahoo.

Productivity: Nothing vs. Office Live Workspace

Neither company has a credible all-online productivity strategy. Yahoo is not in the space, and Microsoft is still pursuing hybrid apps: It's Office Live Workspace service uses the Web for access to documents that are edited in Microsoft Office. Microsoft will begin to release crippled online versions of its productivity apps eventually, and must follow with an online version of Office before Google takes over in this market. Winner: Microsoft.

Ad networks: Right Media vs. aQuantive

These two ad networks, combined, are a more credible threat to Google than they are separately. However, Google's lobbyists will ensure there's argument that the combined network is just too big. Winner: the DOJ.

Upshot: Microsoft is buying its way in to the Web 2.0 and Yahoo's online products are, for the most part, the ones that will survive. However, there are still holes in the combined company's Web 2.0 product set.

I realize that I have left out several categories. I will try to add them in later.

[zcollvee]

I disagree on the Messenger subject. I love "Windows Live Messenger" It looks awesome. Both are good but I prefer the cooler look of WLM and the speed of Y!M

[Remo_Williams]

RAFE!

Mailing lists/ Groups: if Microsoft were to buy Yahoo and do anything to make my life as a list owner worse, I'd be really, really stuck. You missed a good one here.

-R

[FirefoxRocks61]

I hope Windows Live Messenger and Windows Live Hotmail win the battle of those categories. I can't even predict what will happen if Yahoo! took over Hotmail and Messenger.
As for OpenID vs LiveID, I have never used OpenID before, but LiveID is certainly a great product. If it is replaced by OpenID, what will happen to existing OneCare subscribers?

[amysu88]

I honestly hope that Microsoft doesn't acquire Yahoo. It might mean slight improvement but it's also going to mean less choices for consumers. The internet is slowly turning into an oligopoly.

[generdude]

As a Mac user I hope Microsoft stays away from Yahoo. Microsoft continues to make my Hotmail account even less Mac-like and difficult to use sometimes whenever there is a change in the format. I would probably switch to Gmail if this goes through.

[FRAGM3NT]

I personally think that the only things that will happen is yahoo and microsoft will combine products and things will be called like, Yahoo Live Messenger, Mail, Search and all that other stuff..

Live may get a kick-off with the yahoo base of people

And what about game portals? Whats better yahoo or zone?

[stolenblogs]

Your post has been ripped off at <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://stolenblogs.com/2008/02/03/web-20-cage-match-microsoft-vs-yahoo/" target="_newWindow">http://stolenblogs.com/2008/02/03/web-20-cage-match-microsoft-vs-yahoo/</a>

[abhishek_kumar2k1]

dd

[blusteel21]

Yeah to this merger tell me how many people are sick of owning more then one account just because they have family and friends on different accounts. as for this MS vs. Yahoo. I would have to say that neither win on the e-mail service because they really haven't integrated the email with spaces or anything else, well only a little so far.

[motorush]

Probably the worst anti-Microsoft article I've ever wasted time reading. Let me see the URL?... oh, ok - Webware.com count me out as repeat user in your stats...

[Revrant]

I agree except for one specific category, Yahoo's messenger is utter crap, I have installed it on six computers and it's buggy, thrown together code, on three simply clicking specific parts of the interface causes it to crash, this has been a HUGE issue since the Talk refresh which introduced so much new code, by comparison Windows Live Messenger is incredibly stable, has a huge plug-in community and a greater diversity of user generated content usable through aforementioned community.

[tuneslover]

u helped yahoo to win. it's actually funny post &#38; i think u really hate microsoft......

[tuneslover]

u helped yahoo to win. it's actually funny post &#38; i think u really hate microsoft......hahahhahah...hahhahahahh...u r fool or u dint use ms service &#38; product.

[rootsmusic]

A couple of these are in beta stages, so it's unfair to compare by popularity. The comparisons should be judged by innovation, capabilities, and ease-of-use. Since you'll be adding to this scorecard, a couple more match-ups:
<a href="http://live.yahoo.com">Yahoo! Live</a> vs. ???
<a href="http://www.jumpcut.com">Yahoo! Jumpcut</a> vs. ???
<a href="http://music.yahoo.com/launchcast/">Yahoo! LaunchCast</a> vs. ???
<a href="http://upcoming.yahoo.com">Yahoo! Upcoming</a> vs. <a href="http://home.services.spaces.live.com/events/">Live Events</a>
<a href="http://geocities.yahoo.com">Yahoo! Geocities</a> vs. <a href="http://home.services.spaces.live.com">Live Spaces</a>
<a href="http://answers.yahoo.com">Yahoo! Answers</a> vs. <a href="http://qna.live.com">Live QnA</a>
<a href="http://classifieds.yahoo.com">Yahoo! Classifieds</a> vs. <a href="http://expo.live.com">Live Expo</a>
<a href="http://briefcase.yahoo.com">Yahoo! Briefcase</a> vs. <a href="http://skydrive.live.com">Live SkyDrive</a>