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January 15, 2008 1:22 PM PST

MacBook Air: Not the thinnest notebook ever

by Michael Kanellos
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The MacBook Air, unfurled today, might be the thinnest notebook on the market today, but it's not the thinnest of all time.

(Credit: Daniel Terdiman/CNET News.com)

That distinction belongs to the Pedion, an ill-fated notebook developed by Mitsubishi and Hewlett-Packard back in 1997.The Pedion measured 18.4 millimeters thick, which comes out to 0.7244 inch thick. Although the Air gets to 0.16 inch at the thinnest point, the Air is 0.76 inch thick at the beefiest portion, making it minutely thicker. Mitsubishi released the Pedion in early 1998.

The Pedion, however, wasn't exactly the paragon of quality or value. The $6,000 notebook came with 64MB of memory and a 1GB hard drive. The notebook came with a magnesium case to make it sturdy. Even with that, though, consumers quickly reported mechanical and other problems. Mitsubishi subsequently withdrew the notebook from the market. (HP never came out with its version, I don't think. I'll check.) The name probably didn't help either. "Attention Circuit City employees. I have a Pedion on aisle one."

Apple calls the Air the world's thinnest notebook. How you interpret that ("on the market today" or "ever") is up to you.

Others have come close but not limboed under. A special-edition Sony Vaio X505 sold back in 2004 comes close to the Air. The notebook, issued in limited numbers to commemorate the Vaio line, measured 0.8 inch thick at the fattest point and 0.38 inch at the thinnest. Part of the shell was made of carbon fiber for strength.

Sony's thinnest notebook now, meanwhile, measures 1.2 inches thick at the fattest point and 0.8 inch thick at the thinnest point. (If you asked me in college if I'd be arguing notebook thinness as a grown up, I would have laughed.)

Although the Pedion died a quick, ugly death, some of the ideas behind it linger on, and one of those ideas is the thin notebook with a medium-size screen. Back then, most mini-notebooks came with small screens and keyboards. The Pedion had a 12-inch screen, big for the time, and a relatively normal-size keyboard. In other words, it had normal X and Y dimensions, but a small Z. The formula has been popular ever since.

Although notebook makers have for the past few years focused quite a bit of attention on notebooks with 15-inch and larger screens, the new battleground will be in the 11-inch and 13-inch screen arena, predicted Xavier Lauwaert, a Vaio product manager. These notebooks are roughly similar to dimensions of the old Mitsubishi model.

Dell recently put out a light notebook with a 13-inch screen, while Sony showed off 11-inch and 13-inch models at CES. The Air fits in the same category.

"There will be a war around thinness, battery life, and price/performance. You can see this is where everyone is going," Lauwaert said. In these notebooks, optical drives become an option.

Manufacturers will also have to explore chemistry labs as well to find new materials similar to carbon fiber that can be fashioned into thin chassis.

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Toshiba R500
by RadioPictures January 15, 2008 2:58 PM PST
This machine comes within .01 in to the ludicrously overhyped Air.
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PS
by RadioPictures January 15, 2008 3:01 PM PST
The R500 weighs less, also!
Wrong ... I just checked it out
by Thomas, David January 15, 2008 3:15 PM PST
You got me all excited over nothing.

This is the link to the data-sheet of the least expensive R500:

http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/datasheet/portege_R500-S5001X.pdf
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Thinkpad 560
by ecoeccentric January 16, 2008 9:16 AM PST
The Thinkpad 560 came out in 1996, two years before the Pedion, and also had a 12 inch screen and full-size keyboard and was 1.2 inches thick and weighed ~4lbs. I believe the Thinkpad 560 was an earlier ancestor to modern subnotebooks, which includes the current Thinkpad X61s.

From the article:
"Although the Pedion died a quick, ugly death, some of the ideas behind it linger on, and one of those ideas is the thin notebook with a medium-size screen. Back then, most mini-notebooks came with small screens and keyboards. The Pedion had a 12-inch screen, big for the time, and a relatively normal-size keyboard. In other words, it had normal X and Y dimensions, but a small Z. The formula has been popular ever since."

The Thinkpad 560 had all of these attributes two years earlier.
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Intel Mobile Metro?
by jrm125 January 16, 2008 9:36 AM PST
I guess it doesn't count since it hasn't actually hit the market yet (or has it?). But it's 0.7" thick and only 2.25 lbs.
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Toshiba Protege 2000 "limboes under"
by Kricke242 January 16, 2008 1:09 PM PST
Wrong in article: "Others have come close but not limboed under".

Toshiba Protege 2000 (From product PDF).

Dimensions (WxDxH): 11.4? x 9.0? x 0.6/0.75?
Weight: 2.6 lbs (with Primary Battery)

http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/detailed_specs/portege_2000.pdf
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Reality Check C|NOT
by Llib Setag January 18, 2008 1:14 PM PST
1. Steve Jobs NEVER said that the MacBook Air was the thinnest laptop of all time during his keynote.
When he did say this was the thinnest notebook, he was stating the obvious as to the CURRENT market of laptops available...NOT SUB-NOTEBOOKS, of which the MB Air is not, nor was it ever said that is was a Sub-Notebook.

2. splitting hairs over some laptop that was made in the past, that failed to remain in the market of TODAY who was a few millimeters thinner is just drawing at straws to put Apple down like C|NOT gets paid to do by it's sponsers & masters, Microsith & Dell.

3. 0.46" thick is the overall AVERAGE thickness of the MB Air if you take into account that it is a TAPERED base notebook ( 0.76 inch at its thickest and 0.16 inch at its thinnest )

4. Get a clue C|NOT.
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harsh
by jc364 January 18, 2008 4:40 PM PST
Wow, strong reaction.

1. Pretty sure that we already know that Steve Jobs never said the MacBook Air was the thinnest laptop of all time. The article mentions that. Also, how do you know the MacBook Air will not be a sub-notebook? I don't think that the makers of the Pedion expected the problems that they ran into. For all we know, the laptop could be one of the worst products Apple has ever put on the market.

2. I don't think the author is trying to put down Apple. After all, he does mention that no other current laptop comes close to the thinness of the Air.

3. You are probably right about the average thickness. However, do you know for sure that other laptops do not have an AVERAGE thickness of less than .46" thick? There may not be any, but its hard to find any specifications that list AVERAGE thickness.

4. Strange that a submitter with the name of a well known Microsoft employee is such a fan of Macs.
uhm...
by hlywd217 February 4, 2008 5:49 PM PST
Fanatical Apple fan much?
Lack of optical drive
by robmclean January 18, 2008 9:53 PM PST
Go to apple.com com and check out their guided tour of the MacBook Air. The guys at apple obviously thought about the lack of an optical drive. There is an included program that allows one to share an optical drive of another computer (PC or mac) over the WiFi. It is pretty slick. One can mount the disk drive onto the desktop of the MacBook Air and watch movies, install programs, etc.
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Wrong
by hlywd217 February 4, 2008 5:44 PM PST
You cannot watch DVD's through the other computer's optical drive.

From the Review on CNET:
"You won't be able to stream DVD movies or music CDs via remote disc, but it's fine for getting files and installing apps."
http://reviews.cnet.com/macbook-air/?tag=prod.txt.1
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Wow
by hlywd217 February 4, 2008 5:47 PM PST
That's brilliant!
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Portege R100 , 0.7" thick , 2.4 lbs 07/10/2003
by Frank In New York February 14, 2008 8:26 PM PST
Where have you been? CNET reviewed the Toshiba Portege R100 on 9/12/03. This is a great machine. And before that there was the Portege 2000.
The dimension and weight statistics of recent released ultralights or ultra thin notebooks have not improved on those of the predecessors I have mentioned.
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