December 17, 2007 11:22 AM PST

Upcoming Senate vote may shield wiretap collaborators

by Anne Broache
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Correction 2:40 p.m. PST: The original version of this story incorrectly stated the vote count. It was 76-10.

In a preliminary victory for the likes of AT&T and Verizon, the U.S. Senate has ventured a step closer to passing a law that would crush lawsuits accusing telecommunications companies of illegal cooperation with government spying programs.

By a 76-10 vote on Monday, the senators agreed to cut off the possibility of a filibuster that would delay final action on the so-called FISA Amendments Act, which the Bush administration argues is necessary to remove supposed hurdles to snooping on foreign terrorists. All 10 of the votes against limiting debate came from Democrats. (FISA refers to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, a 1978 law that sets the ground rules for intercepting communications between foreigners and U.S. persons.)

By overcoming that procedural hurdle, senators are now poised to consider several amendments and proceed to a final vote on that bill, which was originally approved by a 13-2 vote in a closed-door meeting of the Senate Intelligence Committee in late October. Critics, however, say that version gives the executive branch too much unchecked authority to eavesdrop, without a court order, on communications between Americans and people "reasonably believed to be outside the United States."

Equally controversial is the immunity provision contained in the bill. The language is crafted broadly enough to shield not only traditional telephone companies and Internet service providers, but e-mail providers, search engines, and instant-messaging services too. And the legal shield would apply not only to corporate cooperation with programs run by the National Security Agency, but also any activities at the CIA, the Defense Department, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the State Department, the Treasury Department, Homeland Security and other intelligence-related organizations.

Update 12:40 p.m. PST: An aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told CNET News.com on Monday afternoon that he wasn't sure exactly when a final vote would occur. Reid has reportedly set aside 30 hours for the bill's consideration.

The measure is intended to replace a temporary law, known as the Protect America Act, which is set to expire in early February and has been attacked by civil liberties groups and some Democrats as insufficiently protective of Americans' privacy.

The Protect America Act effectively expanded the government's ability to collect, without a warrant, phone and Internet conversations in which at least one party is reasonably believed to be outside the United States. But although it immunized private companies from lawsuits going forward, it did not address what to do about scores of pending lawsuits, such as the one that the Electronic Frontier Foundation filed against AT&T, alleging illegal behavior by telephone companies.

Bush administration officials insist their spying operations will fall apart without cooperation from communications companies and that those companies were only doing their patriotic duty. The president has made it clear he will veto any legislation that fails to grant retroactive legal immunity.

But some Democratic senators attacked that reasoning on Monday, arguing that Americans need assurances that their private conversations won't be illegally tapped by their service providers. They urged pursuit of a stripped-down version of the FISA bill, recently approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee, which lacks legal immunity for telephone companies. Presidential hopeful Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), who has vowed to block passage of any bill that includes retroactive immunity, delivered a lengthy speech before the vote urging his colleagues to oppose any bill that lets telephone companies off the hook.

"I'm here because the truth is not their private property," he said, referring to Bush administration officials who have sought to suppress lawsuits against telecommunications companies on state secrets grounds.

But other key party members don't share that view. Sen. John Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), the Intelligence Committee's chairman, said some components of that bill may be offered as amendments to his committee's bill, but he appeared unwilling to budge on the idea of shielding telephone companies from lawsuits.

"Companies who participated at a great risk of exposure and financial ruin for one reason and one reason only, in order to help identify terrorists and prevent follow-on terrorist attacks, they should not be penalized for their willingness to heed the call during a national emergency," Rockefeller said on the Senate floor Monday.

Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Penn.) said he's still hoping to spearhead a sort of compromise approach aimed at stopping short of full immunity. With backing from some Democrats, including Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), he plans to offer a "substitution" amendment, in which government lawyers would formally take the place of the telephone company or other parties being sued.

"I do not know whether there is wrongdoing or not, but I do not think it is appropriate for the government to act secretly, surreptitiously...and then come back at a later date and say please exonerate us," he said.

Whatever ends up happening in the Senate this week won't necessarily be the final word. A divided House of Representatives has already approved a rewrite of wiretapping law that does not provide legal immunity for private companies. Any differences between the final Senate version and the House bill will have to be reconciled in what appears destined to be a contentious conference.

Update 1:35 p.m. PST: Details about additional proposed amendments to the corporate immunity section of the bill began trickling out as debate continued Monday afternoon.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said she plans to offer an amendment that attempts to place limits on the immunity protection for companies. According to the latest draft language provided by her office, companies would be eligible for that privilege only if the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court had determined that one of three things occurred: the government's written request to the company complied with federal law, the company executives were acting in "good faith," based on "a demonstrable reason to believe that compliance with the written request or directive...was permitted by law," or the company didn't "provide the alleged assistance" at all.

In addition, Dodd said he plans to team up with Sen. Russ Feingold, the Wisconsin Democrat with the distinction of being the only senator to vote against the contentious Patriot Act, to offer an amendment that would strip the entire immunity provision, which means pending suits would not be immediately tossed.

Update 7:50 p.m. PST: On Monday evening, Reid decided to shelve the vote until next year in an effort to give politicians more time to work out how to handle the thornier provisions of the bill. Click here to read our update.

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Trade, then...
by missingamerica December 17, 2007 11:51 AM PST
"Companies who participated at a great risk of exposure and financial ruin for one reason and one reason only, in order to help identify terrorists and prevent follow-on terrorist attacks, they should not be penalized for their willingness to heed the call during a national emergency."

OK, Rockefeller - use your head, then, if you can't tear your hand away from your wallet - or stocks, rather.

Make the intelligence community - and the Telecoms - make public exactly how many different conversations with distinct and different endpoints in the United States have been and are being spied upon at any instant in time - in the past, now, and continually throughout the future.

Break it out on a per state basis - no need for further details. Numbers say interesting things about, well, just about anything - but in particular about just how focused and justified an intelligence operation is.

Further, add a rider to the legislation that says any effort to spoof the address of the originator or receiver of any traffic to meet the qualifier that one endpoint is "reasonably believed to be outside the United States." is a felony that carries a minimum prison sentence of 10 years.

Likewise make any attempt to substitute for or modify the content of any traffic in order to falsely incriminate or justify the further interrogation of an individual or group a felony that carries a minimum prison sentence of 30 years.

Now you know just how much I trust the intelligence community when PNAC has its tendrils so deep in the heart of our government.
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Welcome to the Total Surveillance State
by ecotopian--2008 December 17, 2007 12:44 PM PST
Apparently, we need to be protected from ourselves
legal question
by scdecade December 17, 2007 2:52 PM PST
I'm no lawyer so I've been wondering... How is it the US Congress has the authority to exonerate people (and corporations) after the fact? Isn't there some sort of 'ex post facto' rule whereby new laws cannot be applied retroactively? If these companies did something which was illegal at the time shouldn't they be liable come what may?

The only reason to commute liability is if something clearly illegal occurred. If these illegal acts occurred at the behest of the government then isn't it vitally critical liability is not forgiven? If this isn't the case then there is literally nothing to prevent the government from acting without consideration of legal or moral jeopardy? That's a recipe for disaster.
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Actuall you don't need to do something illegal
by Proustian December 17, 2007 3:53 PM PST
to get a civil lawsuit filed against you.

Only foreign terrorists outside the USA got wiretapped, but people are filing nuisance lawsuits against phone companies even if their lines were not tapped and they never called foreign terrorist numbers that triggered the wiretaps on phone calls anyway. Just that a lot of foreign phone calls get routed through the USA anyway, like Afghanistan to Iraq, and no US citizen took or gave the call in the first place.

These are like the McDonald's made me fat lawsuits, and are nuisance or frivolous lawsuits that only bog down the legal system and make it harder to go after the real terrorists and impede the war against terror. The McDonald's made me fat lawsuits all got thrown out of court, but not after wasting years of court time and legal resources to disprove. McDonald's does not make people fat, people eating too many Big Macs make themselves fat by eating too many of them and not eating healthier.
ex post facto
by suyts December 17, 2007 4:33 PM PST
relates to passing a law making an prior act illegal after the fact. An example would be, that I got stopped at a DUI check point and blew a .09 when .10 was the limit then "after the fact" a law is passed making the limit .08. I can't be charged for a DUI because I was legal when I committed the act. Hope that helps. Congress and the President, in this case, are trying to shield companies from civil suits, not criminal anyway. In this nation of lawyers, anybody can sue anyone for anything, not necessarily illegal or criminal. My 2 cents, if the companies were acting in good faith, congress should give it to them. Regardless of wether congress gives it to them or not, I'm sure the Supreme Court will hear the case anyway.
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They were only following orders
by appledogx--2008 December 17, 2007 3:32 PM PST
Doing illegal things to protect the country.

Where have we heard that before? I'm glad they weren't competing
for poison gas contracts.

Frankly, I have no sympathy for those who rush to do wrong for
profit. Too bad the Senate is so willing to do so. More dung is slung
on the Constitution.
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I don't believe the question of
by suyts December 17, 2007 4:42 PM PST
legality has been settled. As far as foreign, non-citizen phone conversations, I don't believe any criminal act took place. Foreign, non-citizens have no constitutional protection in this nation. I don't believe there was a profit involved for anybody other than the intention to protect the U.S. which is a Constitutional prerogative.
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Forsaking their duties once again
by m.meister December 17, 2007 3:46 PM PST
Once again, our magnificent Congress is forsaking their duties.
We truly are in a state of an out of control government.

It is time we stopped rushing through bills like this. It is time we
stopped using "the terrorists" as the main excuse for why it's OK
for the government to stomp on our Constitution.

We are but frogs enjoying a warm bath -- too stupid to see that
the water is coming to a boil.
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I agree,
by suyts December 17, 2007 9:09 PM PST
somewhat, to your point, phone tapping is somewhat unnerving and the question needs to be resolved by the Supreme Court regarding its constitutionality, whether the other half of a citizens phone conversation can be monitored or not. Please remember, though, the constitution does not guarantee protection to non-citizens. Please also remember when and why these policies were placed. These were placed as a direct response to the murderous attack on this nation on 9/11. After the attacks, action was not only warranted but constitutionally required. I understand your misgivings, most do, still I really don?t believe the threat of another attack is gone. You got a better way to prevent them? I?m listening.
Opposing the corporate welfare-warfare state
by nicmart December 17, 2007 7:33 PM PST
The simplest way to express your opposition is to vote for Ron
Paul for president.
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Sheeple
by enovikoff December 18, 2007 1:52 AM PST
It is the sheeple that believe that the government is always acting in their interests. If everything the government does is hidden behind secrecy with no checks and balances, what makes you believe it will be in your interest? Over and over again, administrations have proven you wrong, from Nixon (watergate), to Reagan (iran-contra), to today's warrantless wiretapping and blatantly causeless war in Iraq for which we are mortgating the nation's future. If there is no public scrutiny, our government's top officials will do just as they please, exactly like any dictatorship.
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