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November 6, 2007 11:45 AM PST

Democratic leader to Yahoo CEO: China policy is 'spineless'

by Anne Broache
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Members of Congress on Tuesday showed almost no mercy for top Yahoo executives attempting to smooth over accusations about the company's role in the imprisonment of Chinese dissident journalists.

Yahoo Chief Executive Jerry Yang and General Counsel Michael Callahan endured nearly four hours of tongue-lashing from Democrats and Republicans alike on the U.S. House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee.

The subject of the hearing: Allegations that Callahan provided "false information" to the panel last year regarding a case that landed 37-year-old Shi Tao a 10-year prison sentence. A related case involving an online writer named Wang Xiaoning also came up at the event. (For more, click here for our live coverage of the hearing.)

The company executives offered repeated apologies to the committee, both for failing to update the politicians with details about their subsidiary's cooperation with the Chinese government and for the suffering faced by families of the imprisoned dissidents. They also professed the Internet portal's commitment to human rights and continued to defend their decision to keep their Chinese operations alive, despite the censorship-happy whims of the Communist power.

In the end, politicians displayed virtually no sympathy for Yahoo's plight. Lantos called on Yahoo to account for what he called "spineless and irresponsible actions" in its Chinese operations.

"Look into your own soul, and see the damage you have done to an innocent human being and his family," Rep. Tom Lantos (D-Calif.), the panel's chairman, told them at the hearing's close. "It will make no difference to the committee what you do, but it will make you better human beings, if you recognize your own responsibility for the enormous damage your policies have created."

At issue are statements Callahan made under oath to the same committee alongside Microsoft, Google, and Cisco Systems representatives during a widely covered hearing about global Internet censorship in February 2006.

Specifically, Callahan told the committee that he didn't have any knowledge of the facts surrounding why Chinese authorities approached Yahoo China with a request for identifying information about Shi, who was later convicted of leaking "state secrets"--namely, forwarding an e-mail detailing press suppression to an overseas advocacy group--in violation of Chinese law.

But Callahan has acknowledged that he later found out that the legal order did, in fact, specify that Shi was suspected of leaking "state secrets." He apologized to the committee on Tuesday for the "confusion" his earlier statements may have sparked among politicians. He added that he sincerely regretted not updating the committee with that information when, in October of last year, the details of the Chinese government order were finally brought to his attention.

"This was inexcusably negligent behavior at best and deliberately deceptive behavior at worst," regardless of the reason, said Lantos, who repeated that declaration twice for emphasis.

The Chinese government, he added, is notorious for evoking the "state secrets" claim to back a "phony but devastating legal case against an innocent person who shares our values in an open and free society." He made it clear that Yahoo should have known better.

Most politicians said they weren't prepared to go so far as to accuse Callahan of lying intentionally. But they said they were nevertheless troubled that he wasn't more forthcoming earlier. They also attacked the company for failing to fire employees who were involved in that "mistake."

Yang defended that practice, saying no one was fired because "I really don't believe our employees acted in a way that was intended to deceive." He added that some "tightening" of processes had occurred.

Focus on victims' families
Two broader themes also ran through much of the politicians' questioning: Why hasn't Yahoo provided financial assistance to the families of two imprisoned dissidents in question, and what does it plan to do if confronted with similar situations in the future?

The first question was especially charged because Shi's mother attended the Capitol Hill hearing and was seated just behind Yang. At the start of the hearing, Lantos asked Yang to "beg the forgiveness of the mother whose son is languishing behind bars due to Yahoo's actions."

When finally given the opportunity to begin his opening statement, Yang said he wanted to "personally apologize for what they and their families are going through." He turned and bowed to Shi's tearful mother.

Repeatedly pressed by audibly incensed politicians, Yang and Callahan went on to acknowledge that they hadn't given "direct" help to the affected families but had supported "independent research" into human rights groups.

Lantos and several others suggested that the company would be wise to change that and voiced frustration at what they perceived as noncommittal answers. (Yang never outright committed to offering aid to the families but said the company would "certainly study it.")

"You're one of the richest companies in the country, and you don't know whether you can provide for the humanitarian needs for a couple of families?" asked Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.), who arguably became the most visibly agitated about the issue.

Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), who presided over the panel hearing with Callahan last year, said one way Yahoo could make amends is through settling a U.S. lawsuit brought against it earlier this year by the families of Shi and Wang. They allege that the company "willingly" divulged information about the two pro-democracy online writers, leading to their imprisonment.

"Settle it, and I would say settle it generously in their favor," Smith urged. "That would be one way you could convey to the committee, to shareholders, and especially (to) the victims that you recognize there are true victims because of this complicity."

Yahoo has already filed for dismissal of that suit, but Callahan told Smith that the company would be "open" to discussing settlement options with the families.

Next steps
As for what Yahoo plans to do if confronted with similar situations in the future, the answer was murkier. Callahan said the company plans to structure operations in any new foreign entities (Vietnam, for instance, is being explored) so that employees there aren't put in a position where they're legally bound to turn over customer information in cooperation with admittedly "overbroad" laws like the ones in China.

More than once, he and Yang also mentioned the global "industry standards" Yahoo and other technology companies are working to devise with human rights groups and socially responsible investors.

A minority of politicians present suggested that perhaps Yahoo shouldn't be made the scapegoat for broader conflicts among the policies of the United States and less-democratic nations.

Rep. Robert Wexler (D-Fla.) said the issue begs some "self-reflection" among the U.S. government regarding its decision to encourage trade with China in the first place. And Rep. Adam Smith (D-Wash.), whose constituency includes Microsoft, said weighing whether to stand up to oppressive regimes or to obey their laws is "not a simple black-and-white decision" for companies.

But most committee members made it clear that they're not content to let the industry regulate itself in this area. They touted a recently approved bill that would, among other things, prohibit all American companies from locating their servers and personal information about their customers in regimes deemed by the U.S. government to be Internet-restrictive.

Lantos and others repeatedly sought Yahoo's endorsement of that bill, whose prospects for passage into law remain unclear. But the company representatives punted, saying they didn't know enough about the details of the new version to comment.

In any case, Yang said of the company's future plans, "we'll take more responsibility both morally and ethically."

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Hypocrisy
by ewelch November 6, 2007 12:42 PM PST
And of course, American policy over the past how many
decades, for all the good it does, has been far worse for many
people. Rwanda. Darfur. The Balkans, the list goes on and on.

Not that I'm defending the spineless, business first at all costs
garbage from Yahoo. They deserve every criticism they got. It's
just the criticism would hold so much more moral weight if the
hypocrisy of these grandstanding by politicians - who won't even
vote to protect our own nation's children from disease - wasn't
dripping with irony.
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Congress is Spineless
by narc9 November 6, 2007 1:30 PM PST
This type of thing happens EVERY DAY in the US. What has congress done about it? Nothing, apparently since China doesn't donate to their campaign funds they can take the "moral high road", but when the RIAA dumps bribe money on these same "leaders" they shut up about how they let the RIAA raid servers for personal information for the same REASON.
Any type of action that limits the freedom of information is wrong. China is wrong for censoring the internet, Congress is wrong in trying to BAN the information highway from going into China as a response. Who are the communists now?
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strong language
by ramandaksh November 6, 2007 1:39 PM PST
Wow, the panel come across with lot of passion for the affected family due to "false evidence"

I havent seen anyone being punished / reparations being made for "false evidence" on weapons of mass destruction .. yet.
When are they going to get to this issue ?
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They never will.
by itango November 6, 2007 2:22 PM PST
In spite of Yahoo's apologies, and Congress's "strong language" nothing will be done.

Yahoo is apologizing to the wrong people - They should set aside a large amount of compensation for the Chinese man in prison and his family, who are the real victims in all this. They should also assist the family with their immigration costs to permanently emigrate to the US.

In other words, don't "apologize" - words are cheap. Show you are really sorry, and take responsibility for your actions by making reparations to the family. This would go a lot farther towards showing true contrition than empty apologies to the wrong people.
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Payback: Waterboard Yahoo execs!
by rcardona2k November 6, 2007 2:28 PM PST
Here's some more strong language:

It's legal to waterboard the Yahoo executives, right? It's also legal to declare them as enemy combatants and material enablers of torture (terrorism to the detainee) abroad
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By that logic
by flickrz November 6, 2007 7:24 PM PST
By that logic; the whole current Administration qualifies as material enablers of torture.
Yang's Next Move
by Phocion November 6, 2007 2:59 PM PST
Wow, "spineless and irresponsible", needing to "look into (his) own soul" for "self-reflection", and wanting for some sage advice in what "will make you better human beings". To hell with Yahoo - with those credentials, Jerry should be the next Speaker of the House.
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hypocrasy alright
by flemingho November 6, 2007 3:47 PM PST
You could replace "Chinese" with "USA" and "state secrets" with "terrorism/WMD" and "phony...society" with "illegal invasion of sovereign countries / arrest of a US citizen without due process", in the following paragraph of the article.


The Chinese government, he added, is notorious for evoking the "state secrets" claim to back a "phony but devastating legal case against an innocent person who shares our values in an open and free society."



:)
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True
by flickrz November 6, 2007 7:26 PM PST
I could not agree with you more.
ha, right.
by andrusha77 November 6, 2007 3:47 PM PST
In any case, Yang said of the company's future plans, "we'll take more responsibility both morally and ethically."

Right. Like cashing in stock options while your employees get laid off. ...
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Troll
by flickrz November 6, 2007 7:27 PM PST
when was the last time Yang cashed his stock options while people got laid off? Yahoo has been hiring left and right. Verify the truth before trolling.
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Not here
by mikeburek November 6, 2007 5:09 PM PST
Good thing this government never does illegal search and seizure, or bullies ISP and phone companies or just search engines for private info. This gov't would never have phone companies or VOIP providers or cell phone companies deliberately provide a backdoor so the gov't can monitor undetected so they don't have to go through the time and bother of getting a real warrant, much less real proof.
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doing business
by mikeburek November 6, 2007 5:14 PM PST
Yahoo is just following the rules of the country they are doing business in. Maybe China thinks we are a bunch of wimpy babies, always crying about lead in paint. Over here, we test and ban it, over there they don't.

Or what about wages? Why does Congress let companies choose to employ people in other countries, but be picky about what rules they follow. Any business with a country is, at least, a mild for of support and recognition. The taxes Nike pays to the Chinese gov't support that gov't even more than the laws that Yahoo follows to do business there.
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Democrates are spineless
by flickrz November 6, 2007 7:33 PM PST
Double stadards and politics go hand in hand. I am sure none of the congressmen would mind Chinese funding for their election campaign. What do they really think? Do they own China? If they really had "balls" they would tell Commies in China to release unfortunate gentleman rather than lambasting an American company. But, do they?
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I share the same thought.
by plee9 December 29, 2007 9:24 AM PST
these politicians are hypocrites indeed.
I refuse to use Yahoo
by t8 November 6, 2007 11:27 PM PST
Disgusting.

I will never use Yahoo from hence forth.
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Chinese Toothpaste, Leaded Toys Much Worse
by Stating November 7, 2007 1:10 AM PST
Let's put thsi in perspective. We have 300 million Americans at risk from imported Chinese products that the USDA and FDA, by their own admission, cannot adequately inspect. That is something that truly deserves hearings.
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But not if you have oil!
by Hank Wells November 7, 2007 1:11 AM PST
Saudi Arabia has from its interduction in 1996 always had fire walls to stop people from getting to certain sites. The UN resulation on the foundation of Israel, Any adverse comments on Saudi Arabia or Islam.

Who Provides it? No suprise the United States Of Americia. Oil talks, hence the war of terror does not go to its source. Why don't they come clean and say 'as long as we get cheap oil etc, we don't care about the human rights.

Total hypocrisy!
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Truth, Justice and the American Way
by SpiritMatter November 10, 2007 12:16 PM PST
Truth according to Big Brother Bush--We have proof that Saddam Hussein has WMD. We must stop him now before it is too late.

Justice according to Big Brother Bush-- Punishment should not be tied to the crime but to the level of hatred and fear we can generate in the people about the potential crime.

The American Way according to Big Brother Bush--In our talk, we honor the self-evident equality and inalienable rights bestowed by the Creator, however, like Musharraf, our walk recognizes that individual freedom must be sacrificed to the false god of security.
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