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September 12, 2007 9:42 AM PDT

Microsoft says college students can 'steal' Office

by Ina Fried
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For college students who want Office 2007, but don't want to pay Microsoft a fortune, the software maker is offering another option: Steal it.

Well, actually Microsoft isn't encouraging piracy. Rather it is launching a promotion, dubbed "Ultimate Steal," in which college students can get the ultra high-end Ultimate edition of Office for just $60.

The promotion runs through April 30 and starts Wednesday in Canada, the United Kingdom and the United States. It launches next week in France, Italy and Spain. To be eligible, Microsoft said students have to be "actively enrolled" in a higher education program and have an e-mail address from that school.

"We're listening to students who have told us they need Microsoft Office for their studies and want more flexible ways to get the latest version," Alan Yates, general manager of Worldwide Education at Microsoft, said in a statement. "The Ultimate Steal is the latest in a long history of providing compelling academic offers for students."

Microsoft tried the promotion earlier this year as a pilot program in Australia, before deciding to offer it in the U.S.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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You THINK you need it
by MaLvaDo39 September 12, 2007 10:40 AM PDT
Until you realize there's open formats that read and write to
Microsoft's proprietary formats.

Even Apple's Pages can read and write to those formats.
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They suck though
by smilin:) September 12, 2007 11:14 AM PDT
We know about open formats and the free office competitors. They aren't selling because people don't know about them. It's because they suck.
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Why not High School students, too?
by seangum September 12, 2007 10:46 AM PDT
Why limit this to college students? My 15-year old son who is in High School has his own laptop and his own copy of Office 2003. If he could get the 2007 Ultimate version for $60, I am sure he'd buy it.

And, yes, we have been thinking about dumping Office 2003 to go with OpenOffice. MS should be more forward thinking and target highschoolers as well before they get used to OpenOffice. By college, it will be too late...

Sean Gum
SeanGum.com
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Why is it always assumed...
by ppgreat September 12, 2007 11:02 AM PDT
... that 5 years down the road MS products will still enjoy the
monopoly they enjoy now? If we're supposed to be allowing kids to
evaluate and make their own choices, let's not saddle them with the
crap that we are forced to endure by lazy IT departments and brain
dead CFOs/CIOs.
MS K-12 discounts
by grdrager September 12, 2007 2:31 PM PDT
MS does offer special arrangements on the K-12 side. Try looking at www.journeyed.com to see if something is in place for your state and what your pricing might be. In my state (PA), any K-12 student/staff member can get Office Pro Plus 2007 for around $85.00.
Get a grip
by kojacked September 12, 2007 12:20 PM PDT
Microsoft is just about giving away it's latest version of Office and there are still haters who have nothing good to say. Go figure, I guess they've already claimed their welfare checks for the week and have nothing better to do. If you like communism so well why not head over to Russia; I hear Putin is looking for a few good people to help him rebuild the government there.

This is the second benevolent thing that Microsoft has done today (the first being the announcement of opening up Vista's search). C'mon people just let it go...
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Such a clueless troll
by JoeF2 September 12, 2007 12:40 PM PDT
Even as a troll attempt, it was rather lame.
Microsoft Reveals Proper Pricing
by ColdMast September 12, 2007 1:40 PM PDT
$60 USD? should be the price for business, where is the rebate to people who bought a copy?

I think OFFICE 2000 is the last M$ OFFICE I'll ever 'use'.

OpenOffice.org ROCKS

also a portable application {no installation required}
http://portableapps.com/apps/office/openoffice_portable
I believe you are lacking a clue
by Microsoft_Facts September 12, 2007 3:20 PM PDT
MS is never benevolent unless forced to do so.

Besides, until recently there was no such thing as a document macro virus, only a Microsoft document macro virus. MS Office has been hacked dozens of times with viruses as the result. Add up the security concerns of every other office product on the planet over the last 50 years, and you won't even need your toes to count that high. In summary, the single most effective thing you can do to protect your Windows PC is to use as few Microsoft technologies as possible. When cost of ownership is added in, if MS gave you $60 to use Office it is still more exspensive than Open Office.
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re: Get a grip
by kjay528 September 16, 2007 2:32 PM PDT
it figures another joker that thinks if you don't use windows suite's you on welware and smoke crack, get a grip jacked there are people out there that don't like the windows crap and it is buy there choice. if you don't like go to russia, a perfect response to person who can't think for him self. You are a pitiful person.
you probably can't think for your self ( it's called freedom of choice ) jacked so go cash your welfare check and food stamps. try to have a good day ;>]
Steve, is that you?
by halfNakedPappy September 16, 2007 8:08 PM PDT
Come on Ballmer, man... I thought you stopped posting with that
account.
MSFT Desperation So Soon?
by Penguinisto September 12, 2007 12:29 PM PDT
No, seriously - they wouldn't be doing this if MS Office was selling like hotcakes, or if there was no threat from competition.

I'm thinking there's both, and MSFT is desperately doing everything it can to stop what's coming (as evidenced by this little fire sale of theirs, attempts at corrupting the ISO on OOXML's behalf, etc).

I'm guessing that fear is going to become a larger and larger factor in Redmond as time passes, and their marketshare begins to drop...

/P
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Office is selling like hotcakes
by rcrusoe September 12, 2007 1:04 PM PDT
but MS is probably starting to feel the heat from packages like OpenOffice.org.

IBM just joined the project promising all kinds of support including 35 full time programmers.

If MS can't keep the Office bucks coming in they may find it hard to keep pouring money into their "blackhole" projects like XBOX, mobile phones, search, etc. that are constantly losing money.
That's okay Microsoft, I'd rather "steal" OpenOffice instead!
by skillingssucks September 12, 2007 12:40 PM PDT
<eom>
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Is the free office suite OpenOffice.org a threat?
by kieranmullen September 12, 2007 12:41 PM PDT
Is the free office suite OpenOffice.org a threat? it does after all open up and save as Microsoft format for Word, Excel and Powerpoint. It has many of the features users are looking for. It may have some functions that power users are lookign for but it is worth spending a few minutes and downloading the program legally for free and trying it out isnt it?

KieranMullen
http://360oregon.com
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Is this like the Office 2003 "educational" edition?
by The_Decider September 12, 2007 1:12 PM PDT
Ya know the one that said it was for teachers and students but MS put no student/teacher validation requirements on the purchase?

MS must be getting desperate.
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Available to teachers too?
by mkrump September 12, 2007 1:35 PM PDT
Does anyone know if teachers can get it for this price? I can send an email from my school address.
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Microsoft Haters, read this...
by cary1 September 12, 2007 2:01 PM PDT
Freetards in Deep Denial...

http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2007/07/freetards-in-deep-denial.html

This article is about Linux vs Windows, but very well applies to MS Office vs OpenOffice too

Enjoy!
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dear cnet
by mjm01010101 September 12, 2007 2:52 PM PDT
Read the privacy statement from that website.

Look at who it's registered to.

Seriously, do what your advertisers and readers expect: investigate, don't just report. sheesh.
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This is turning into the Ultimate Scam
by ballssalty September 12, 2007 4:21 PM PDT
When I went there earlier around 2pm it said 1 hour to launch. Then I went back there an hour later and it said 1 hour to launch, it's not 7:20 and when I went back it said 40 minutes to launch. I mean ***?
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What crap
by t8 September 12, 2007 9:58 PM PDT
<quote>"We're listening to students who have told us they need Microsoft Office for their studies and want more flexible ways to get the latest version,"</quote>

No way that students have said this. In reality they are pirating the software or using Open Office or Google Docs and this is simply Microsoft's response to that.

What crap. As if students ring them up and say "I need Microsoft Office for my studies and want it in more flexible ways".

HA HA HA. Microsoft thinks everybody is stupid. I guess they believe that because lots of people use their software.
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The Ultimate MS Joke?
by ubnyan September 13, 2007 6:01 AM PDT
Microsoft press and the Ultimate Steal site says very clear: "This exclusive offer begins September 12, 2007!"
I went to theultimatesteal.com on Sep.12 and checked the site during the day until the countdown was 0 but there was nothing new to show. Today Sep. 13 I went to check it again and it says You can grab the steal in: 4hrs 3min... very funny microsoft....
How can we take
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Hotcakes?
by CeeAyy September 15, 2007 3:32 PM PDT
Selling like hotcakes... when was the last time someone you knew
bought hotcakes? Actaully, maybe that's a good analogy to use
after all. lol.
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I got mine for $89 legally
by tcardone05 September 15, 2007 7:39 PM PDT
with a student discount- from my high school at journeyed.com, just by sending in a pic of my ID card. It works with most schools and universities. I think teachers do to. It was MS Office 2007 Pro Plus.
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they're not giving it for elementary school kids?
by javaboy.ms September 15, 2007 10:29 PM PDT
only elementary school kids can be fooled. i wonder y college students have made such a stupid request. they're saying office07 for $60 is like stealing? >-@
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yeh actually they are
by cyndler September 16, 2007 12:28 AM PDT
the reason why they're saying its 'stealing' is because this price is a few hundred dollars cheaper then this suite usually is...

this is taken from the microsoft discount site:
http://www.microsoft.com/Education/Eligible.mspx
however i dont know for certain if the discount is for all of these or just college students, i will grab the flier up when i go back to work tomorrow
"Qualified Educational Users:
A) Educational Institutions
Defined as an accredited institution organized and operated exclusively for the purpose of teaching its enrolled students (?Educational Institutions?). An accredited institution must be:

1.
A public or private K-12, vocational school, correspondence school, junior college, college, university, or scientific or technical school that is either institutionally accredited by an accrediting agency nationally recognized by the U.S. Secretary of Education or, in the case of public K-12 institutions only, recognized or approved by the Department of Education of the State in which it is located.

OR

2.
A preschool meeting all of the following criteria: (i) is an early childhood program incorporated for the purpose of providing educational services to children between two and five years of age, and which serves minimum of ten such children; and (ii) has been in operation for at least one year.


Eligible programs:

? Academic Edition full packaged products

? Academic Open

? Academic Select

? Campus Agreement (Higher Ed only)

? School Agreement (K-12 Ed or Preschool only)


B) Administrative Offices or Boards of Education
Defined as (a) district, regional and state administrative offices of public Educational Institutions (b) administrative entities organized and operated exclusively for the administration of private Educational Institutions, or (c) other state or local government entities nearly all of whose activities consist of administrative support, of a nature that advances academic learning, for public Educational Institutions.

Eligible Programs:

? Academic Edition full packaged products

? Academic Open

? Academic Select

? Campus Agreement (Higher Ed only)

? School Agreement (K-12 Ed or Preschool only)


C) Full and Part Time Faculty and Staff
Defined as all full and part time faculty and staff of Educational Institutions.

Eligible Programs:

? Academic Edition full packaged products


D) Full and Part Time Enrolled Students
Defined as full and part time enrolled students of Educational Institutions.

Eligible Programs:

? Academic Edition full packaged products

? Academic Student Select


E) Public Libraries
Must meet all of the following criteria: (i) primarily provide general library services without charge to all residents of a given community, district or region; (ii) supported by public or private funds; (iii) make its basic collections and basic services available to the population of its legal service area without charges to individual users, but may impose charges on users outside its legal service area; and (iv) may or may not provide products and services, beyond its basic services, to the public at large with or without individual charges.

Eligible Programs:

? Academic Edition full packaged product

? Academic Open

? Academic Select

? School Agreement


F) Public Museums
Must meet all the following criteria: (i) are a public or private agency or institution organized on a permanent basis for essentially education or aesthetic purposes; (ii) utilize a professional staff; and (iii) own or utilize tangible objects, care for them and exhibit them to the public on a regular basis.

? Academic Edition full packaged product

? Academic Open

? Academic Select

? School Agreement


G) Home-School Program
Defined as a home-schooling program which provides K-12 education to a student or students and which is able to provide written proof that it either (i) belongs to a nationally-recognized home-schooling organization, or (ii) is expressly recognized by a local school district as an acceptable alternative to an accredited or state-recognized/approved educational institution.

Eligible Programs:

? Academic Edition full packaged products


Special note regarding Hospitals, Healthcare Systems and Research Laboratories:

Hospitals, Healthcare Systems and Research Laboratories (including independent Research Laboratories or Research Laboratories affiliated with the Department of Defense or the Department of Energy) are NOT eligible to acquire Academic Edition (AE) products unless they are wholly owned and operated by a qualified Educational Institution as defined above in Section A. "Wholly owned and operated" means that the Educational Institution is the sole owner of said hospital, healthcare system or research laboratory and the only entity exercising control over said institution?s day-to-day operations. Additional information on determining if an entity is wholly owned and operated by an Educational Institution can be found by referring to the: Hospital definition (28 KB Microsoft Word document).

Examples of entities not eligible for academic pricing:

? Non-accredited schools

? Training centers

? Non-United States residents or educational facilities

? Churches

? Hospitals, Healthcare Systems, and Research Laboratories that do not meet the qualifications above

? Non-profit/charitable organizations that do not meet the qualifications above

Note
These organizations may qualify for the
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25
by imhappinen September 15, 2007 11:23 PM PDT
We can get legally for $25 a my school.
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its legit
by cyndler September 16, 2007 12:03 AM PDT
I work in my college's computer labs and we recently got these little fliers about this deal for students, all you have to do is go to a site and order the suite (it asks for your college info)....its not 'stealing' just a discount for students
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Micrsoft Office for students $60
by lucydney September 24, 2007 5:47 AM PDT
How/where do I go to make this purchase? Microsofts webpage? Somewhere else online? Best Buy store?
I'm uncertain how I go about purchasing this at the $60 price. Or where I go to purchase it.
Use OpenOffice.org
by xconsole September 16, 2007 4:59 AM PDT
if you are going to use (and get hooked on) an office suite start using something you and the ppl you work with, teach, help ...., will be able to use in the future with out paying a fortune (think of the freedom also if you want, which is the most important to some of us :))

use : http://www.openoffice.org/
* at least give it a try *

ps: doesn't this m$ tactic have something with selling drugs, give it for free 1st and get them hooked.....
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