September 11, 2007 4:19 PM PDT

Getting fuel out of water

by Michael Kanellos
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DAVIS, Calif.--Here's a novel business plan. Prairie Village, Kansas-based Nowa Technology has come up with a wastewater treatment plant that sucks out materials from wastewater and some of these removed products can be consumed as a diesel additive. It depends on what's in your wastewater, but Nowa CEO Richard Nelson says you find the fuel there quite a bit.

You can mix it 50-50 with diesel and get about the same amount of energy as pure diesel, according to Nelson. (I ran into him in the hallway at the GoingGreen conference taking place here.) This is different than what Israel's BioPetrol is trying to accomplish. That company is applying the coal-to-petrol process on human sewage.

The unit costs $7 million and pays for itself in a few years, he added.

Water remains one of the growth areas in clean tech, but it doesn't nearly get as much focus as biofuels and solar power. One of the fears about the water market is that the main customers are slow-moving municipalities.

That's a misperception, asserted Jeff Green, CEO of NanoH2O, a desalination company that grew out of research at UCLA; 70 percent of the water that gets used goes to agriculture while 20 percent goes to businesses. Many of these companies have their own private purification systems.

"We are trying to make desalination competitive," Green said. In urban centers, water sells for around 25 to 50 cents a cubic meter. Water run through standard desalination processes sells for 50 cents to $1 per cubic meter. Nanotechnology and new membranes will bring the price down, he said.

Another interesting water company at the show is WaterLink Systems, which studies weather patterns and conditions and releases irrigation to farmers accordingly. One of the company's systems, bought by industrial water uses and agribusiness, can save up to a million gallons annually, according to CEO David Chacon.

The company actually grew out of the Three Mile Island nuclear disaster, said Chacon. After that debacle in 1978, two scientists tried to come up with a system that would use meteorological data to help rescue crews get people out of dangerous areas.

Big customers weren't interested until after the Bhopal disaster in 1984. DuPont then bought the company. The same two people then went on to create Waterlink.

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"Pay for itself?"
by Matt Bowman September 11, 2007 8:19 PM PDT
Greentech companies need to start talking in Silicon Valley terms. VCs need hockey-stick growth, not pays-for-itself growth. Unless you happen to find a REALLY idealistic VC, who doesn't care about mon... nevermind.

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Why go one big merry go round to get fuel out of Water
by K A Cheah September 12, 2007 6:30 AM PDT
9v battery will create hydrogen from water: reader comment from Zupek
Posted on: June 4, 2007, 9:47 AM PDT
Story: Alternative fuel for thought

Go home, fill a small dish with water. Go get a NEW and FULLY CHARGE 9v battery. Put one wire to the postive and put it in the water and do the same for the negative.

Those bubbles you see in the water are HYDROGEN and OXYGEN. and it took hardly any power...

Water- the divine gift has the power life to all beings on earth will also give power to all common combustion engines in the simple process of electrolysis to produce the fuels in the form of hydrogen & oxygen gases HHO that we would ever need to run everything on earth in including power stations & rockets
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Why go one big merry go round to get fuel out of Water
by K A Cheah September 12, 2007 6:35 AM PDT
9v battery will create hydrogen from water: reader comment from Zupek
Posted on: June 4, 2007, 9:47 AM PDT
Story: Alternative fuel for thought

Go home, fill a small dish with water. Go get a NEW and FULLY CHARGE 9v battery. Put one wire to the postive and put it in the water and do the same for the negative.

Those bubbles you see in the water are HYDROGEN and OXYGEN. and it took hardly any power...

Water- the divine gift has the power to give life to all beings on earth or this universe will also give power to all common combustion engines in the simple process of electrolysis to produce the fuels in the form of hydrogen & oxygen gases HHO that we would ever need to run everything on earth in including power stations & rockets
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does not make any sense
by budzinsorp1 September 12, 2007 12:38 PM PDT
You want to use electrolysis to get hydrogen out of water and therefore use water to power everything. Haha that a good one?
1. do more research
2. water is heavy
3. don?t have a lot of fresh water
4. takes more energy to produce hydrogen then can be made back (about 20 % loss)
5. hydrogen is smallest atom therefore there are a lot of leak problems if it is used at the fuel.
If want to use electricity then use electricity to drive the car or that ever drive, just have to wait till 2008 for super capacitors to come out(battery), and the solar panels improved with nanotubes (electrisity).
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Obviously you are one of those great scientist who overlooked the fact....
by K A Cheah September 13, 2007 5:46 PM PDT
Obviously Water holds a better promise as the Alternative Fuel: reader comment from K A Cheah
Posted on: May 28, 2007, 12:36 AM PDT
Story: Alternative fuel for thought

In our school days we have learnt in Physics that it possible to split water into its basic atomic components with the application of electricity but even great scientists overlooked the fact that
Water is the better and safer storage of power, the promise water has as an alternative fuel has been unlimited using a simple process of using electrolysis to split water into hydrogen and oxygen only when required, where the hydrogen & oxygen gases HHO's power to drive a car engine will also recharge the battery(minimum 9 volts) that originally did the electrolysis splitting of water into hydrogen and oxygen and also the hydrogen will be only produced when needed just before starting the engine and the electrolysis process will be switched-off when switching off the engine at the same time. This HHO gaes-run engines will run cars, SUVs, trucks, buses, trains and airplanes so cheaply and successfully that not other alternative fuels would ever be needed but these technologies will be suppressed owing to big business money and political scams from Oil Producers and other vested interests. They might even commit murder to suppress these inventions from propagating and flourishing successfully.

Please watch related report of the Water Car Inventor who had been murdered:- Link:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6yRn4IAsrU&mode=related&search =
by carwaterguide November 24, 2008 1:08 AM PST
it's has review many sites like gasforfree,runyourcaronwater etc.

You can truly get better mileage...... http://carwaterguide.blogspot.com
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