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July 27, 2007 12:25 PM PDT

Google to filter copyright videos by September

by Greg Sandoval

YouTube will launch a system in September designed to prevent pirated material from going up on the site, a Google lawyer said in court on Friday.

Google, which acquired YouTube in October, plans to generate a library of digital video fingerprints that would be used by a computer system to screen clips being uploaded to YouTube, said Philip Beck, one of the attorneys representing Google and YouTube. Beck added that the screening process would take only a few minutes to determine whether a clip is copyright material.

Google, Viacom and the class of copyright holders that have filed suit against Google and YouTube within the past year, were in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, for a scheduling hearing.

Beck's statement is significant because it would appear to be the first time that anyone from Google has set a firm launch date for a filtering-system roll out. The company has frustrated numerous media executives by promising to produce better copyright protections for YouTube but not delivering. Critics are quick to note that many of YouTube's competitors already screen content.

What may not go over well in Hollywood is that Google appeared to hedge once again when asked to respond to Beck's statement.

"We hope to have the testing completed and technology available by sometime in the Fall," said a Google spokesman in an e-mail. "But this is one of the most technologically complicated tasks that we have ever undertaken, and as always with cutting-edge technologies, it's difficult to forecast specific launch dates."

Louis Solomon, an attorney with Proskauer Rose, who along lawyers from the law firm Bernstein Litowitz, were appointed interim class counsel at the hearing. Solomon indicated that Google's filtering system would have little impact on the massive damages being claimed for past infringement.

In the class action suit filed in May by a group that included several European sports leagues, the plaintiffs have asked for billions of dollars in damages.

"If in fact Google puts this (system) in place, it is obviously way too late," Solomon said. "But we encourage Google to come forward and do what other companies have already done and treat all the content providers fairly. Not just the favorite few who have agreed to share advertising revenue with YouTube."

During the court proceeding, lawyers from both sides estimated that pre-trial discovery could take more than a year. That means there's a chance that YouTube's copyright issues may not be resolved until late next year.

Greg Sandoval covers media and digital entertainment for CNET News. He is a former reporter for The Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. E-mail Greg, or follow him on Twitter at http://twitter.com/sandoCNET.
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Fingerprints?
by MarkBentley July 27, 2007 1:06 PM PDT
Sounds hard to implement, even if copyright owners comply in advance of any uploads. I'll bet plenty of videos still get through; but Google will argue that it has discharged its duty under the law through these attempts.
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this willl fail
by pjhenry1216 July 27, 2007 1:37 PM PDT
Modified and manipulated video may possibly be able to get through. Degrading quality a bit, stretching, skewing, any various amount of transformations can be done that'll make the video still watchable and understandable but the computer may not recognize it. Sort of how a computer can't read those crazy words with lines through them (usually see them when creating accounts. stops bots from creating accounts). We can read the letters, but the computer can't. If it comes down to it, the same will happen with video. There will always be people looking to steal stuff and they'll stoop to any level.

I'm hoping Google is just doing this to show its impossible but to just show they're "trying."

It's probably cheaper to do this than fight in court OR pay $1 billion (a ridiculous sum... literally. i don't see how they came up with that number.)
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one BILLION dollars!
by MarkBentley July 27, 2007 2:07 PM PDT
Haven't you seen Austin Powers? <holds pinky finger to corner of mouth> That's how they came up with it.
Endangering their protection from the DMCA?
by unknown unknown July 27, 2007 3:52 PM PDT
If the start filtering doesn't that mean they lose a lot of protection under the DMCA? Seems like implementing this filter isn't exactly in their best interest.

Viacom is being more than little hypocritical, cause they own iFilm, a video sharing site similar to Youtube, which has videos that are likely infringing and the only method they offer for remove is DMCA take downs. Seems to be the standard for the content industry, not to practice what they preach.
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YouTube wont survive on VLOGs alone..
by imacpwr July 28, 2007 11:19 AM PDT
About all that'll be left of You Tube after they block will be "The
Geek Diaries". Techies and kids sitting in front of their web cam
babbling out whatever comes to mind at that moment..

Z Z Z Z z z z zzzzzz........
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They never learn . . .
by asdf12345asdf July 29, 2007 1:58 PM PDT
Sigh. Even if this worx - and as explained above, it won't - I don't see how someone who wants to post/show video is required to use Youtube. IOW, if it becomes too much of a pain to use Youtube, a "clean" (unrestricted) Youtube will appear and people will go there instead. And on. And on. And on. If enough lawyers mess around w/this non-crime long enough, someone will eventually release "Youtube in a Box" - a complete video sharing website development tool. Get HW/bandwidth resources, type the new site's name, click, and go . . .
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Killeen Texas Computer Nerds - Why Not Key Words ?
by thetopnerd July 29, 2007 11:38 PM PDT
It is great that Google is taking a proactive approach to filter copyrighted material from being uploaded. Why can?t Google take the same approach on the ever so popular Pay per Click Ad Words? Key words contain federally protected Trademarks and are widely pirated by competitors and those that wish to profit from the intellectual property rights of others. Google obviously has the technical capability to police this action yet chooses not to do it. Yahoo on the other hand is doing it with remarkable success.

The Artists and others that have an interest in the videos posted to U Tube are no more of a victim of copyright and trademark infringement than the Businesses that are damaged by similar piracy.

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Executives are dumb as hell
by gwhitham July 30, 2007 5:51 AM PDT
Unless they are going to watch every video and then do the research on them to find out if they are copyrighted, there is no way to prevent copyrighted material from showing up. Not possible at all. Fingerprinting????? What the hell is that going to do? You would have to have a fingerprint of every piece of material in existance. That is not possible. The video can be altered, the audio can be altered. It's kind of like trying to prevent piracy of cd's and dvd's. You cannot prevent it from happening. If I can hear it, I can copy it. If I can see it, I can copy it. No amount of encryption technology will be able to prevent piracy. So what is so hard to understand about that. If you want piracy to stop or be minimal, drop your overinflated prices to the point that it isn't even worth someone's time to copy etc. Executives are overpaid dumb people that do not understand any technology at all.
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