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July 24, 2007 4:12 PM PDT

GameSpot and Craigslist, where did you go?

by Erica Ogg

SAN FRANCISCO--A power outage hit downtown San Francisco Tuesday afternoon, leaving thousands of residents without power and knocking popular Web sites such as Craigslist, GameSpot, Yelp, Technorati, TypePad and Netflix offline for a few hours.

The power failure apparently hit 365 Main, a 227,000-square-foot data center in downtown San Francisco, particularly hard. The data colocation center's client list includes Craigslist and CNET Networks' GameSpot, a sister site of News.com.

It wasn't immediately clear if the other affected Web sites were customers of 365 Main or of other Web hosting companies, or whether the sites were blacked out for all visitors.

(Credit: CNET Networks)

At 4 p.m. PDT in an e-mailed statement, Miles Kelly, 365 Main's vice president of marketing, had this to say: "At 1:45 pm today, there was a major power event in San Francisco that impacted business operations for many San Francisco based companies, including 365 Main's San Francisco data center. PG&E has not yet determined the cause of the failure. Some customers within the 365 Main facility were temporarily effected by the utility failure. The building is currently 100 percent operational and running on back-up power (generators) until the company can confirm that utility power is stable."

Most sites seemed to be working again by 4:45 p.m. What this means for 365 Main's service agreements with its customers, which promises 24-hour-a-day, 7-days-a-week, 365-days-a-year power, is still unclear. We're waiting to hear more from 365 Main. In an ironic note, a press release from 365 Main dated Tuesday noted the company had provided Red Envelope "two years of continuous uptime."

Update 5:00 p.m.: Asked why the data center company, which bills itself as "the world's finest data centers," failed to meet its standard of ensuring service to customers even in the event of a power failure, Kelly said "I don't know."

According to the San Francisco Chronicle, Pacific Gas & Electric said that more than 30,000 of its customers lost power after an explosion under a manhole cover on Mission Street.

A man exits the main entrance of 365 Main on Tuesday.

(Credit: Elinor Mills/CNET News.com)

Contrary to prior reports, there was no mob of angry customers outside the 365 Main building, and no drunk employee had gone on a rampage, according to Kelly. The "mob" was actually a line of customers who were forced to enter through the front door and have badges checked manually to get into the building because the parking garage gate was affected by the power outage, according to Chris Hutchens, a network engineer at SF Data, which is a customer of 365 Main.

Update July 25, 9 a.m.: Kelly released some more details of went wrong at the San Francisco data center. While they still don't know all the answers, here's what they're saying now:

--Power was restored at 2:34 p.m. Tuesday afternoon, after a 45-minute outage at 365 Main. At least three of the eight colocation rooms were affected, and possibly more.

--So far it is estimating that the power failure impacted 20 to 40 percent of its San Francisco customers.

--The company is still investigating why parts of the back-up generator system failed during Tuesday's power surge.

Erica Ogg is a CNET News reporter who covers Apple, HP, Dell, and other PC makers, as well as the consumer electronics industry. She's also one of the hosts of CNET News' Daily Podcast. In her non-work life, she's a history geek, a loyal Dodgers fan, and a mac-and-cheese connoisseur. E-mail Erica.
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Still down ... amazing
by marap July 24, 2007 6:44 PM PDT
Looks like craigslist is still down, it has been like this intermittent since today afternoon.
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What black truck with a black helicopter over it?
by nnion63 July 24, 2007 7:36 PM PDT
There's no truth to the rumor that craigslist is being rebuilt on new servers, after federal agents took them all during the blackout.
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until 1:30 pst?
by nnion63 July 24, 2007 9:22 PM PDT
There are no recent posts in Current Issues, but the first post in Recently Resolved has today's date - it was edited. I read that post last night, and the last line was added today.


211: FAILBOAT - Some read only time this evening
Updated Tue, Jul 24 - 01:01 PDT
We need to do some unscheduled db maintenance this evening. Gonna fire it off as soon as i figure it all out. I'm a chikin, LOL.
Read only from 11pm pst - 11:45 pm pst.
back for more: read only to about 1:30am pst We are back. Let's see how this runs.
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365 Main's story should be good...
by caywen123 July 24, 2007 8:10 PM PDT
My company was one of the ones that host stuff in 365 Main, and we also lost power. I'm more than a little curious why a power outage threw them for a loop. Maybe their system can handle 5 straight powerup/down cycles?

I'm eagerly awaiting what our operations staff finds out about this.
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and...
by arimay22 July 24, 2007 8:48 PM PDT
This must be the reason livejournal is down too.
:(
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APC & Liebert were looking to not make quota this quarter until...
by JTowner July 24, 2007 11:08 PM PDT
Yea, so it looks like some big customers will now want to have a UPS in their cage. Not that I can blame them, a bad db or SAN shutdown can cause big problems. We all have become too dependent on building supplied power, that the extra coin to get a "small" UPS to cover your critical *hit is worthy.
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Crazy
by sfergy2227 July 25, 2007 12:22 PM PDT
"small" UPS? We have customers in our datacenter that are running nearly 300 Watts/sq foot. That's over 5,000 Watts per rack. Then make a best guess of how long you want coverage for (this outage lasted 45 minutes). Of course, then you would have to configure for redundancy. You go get a price quote on that, then we can talk about the maintenance of battery-backed UPS systems, leakage, etc. and the risks of having them on the datacenter floor in a customer cage and the space/weight costs.

Given the fact that most big customers have no idea which/what systems are critical, don't forget that everything in the path would need protection (transport gear, routers, switches, firewalls, load balancers, etc) I find it very unlikely anyone would go for it.

Fact is, most datacenters rely on either active or battery-backed UPS to provide power for a short period of time (10s-60s) until the generators kick in. Looks like in this case, the gens failed to come up for a portion of the floor.

It's going to be a long quarter for management...
It's not a data center without UPS
by toomchstout July 25, 2007 6:34 AM PDT
You can't really call yourself 365 data center if you have no UPS. Weather or not you have one in your cage the room should still be on UPS. What the hell kind of show are these people running? And who did their last audit if at all because that would be an immediate fail. Get your money back and get a new data center.
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UPS is not the answer
by daftkey July 25, 2007 10:13 AM PDT
Wow - what a genius idea! I'm sure 365's idiot staff never thought about that one when they were building the place. Where were you when they needed this insightful attention to detail?

Of course it could be like the article said - "...backup generators failed". Considering even the largest UPSs won't work for longer than a half-hour (and 365's were probably spec'd out to work for considerably less time, as they had backup generators in place) they might have actually had UPS in the room, and the customers may even have had UPS on their individual servers as well.

But we'll just stick with the "they are idiots who don't know the obvious" stance. It makes those of us who think of everything feel much better.
Ouch. ouch. again
by azareus July 25, 2007 3:47 PM PDT
power outages a'la 2001, enron?
ouch
http://brain.com
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Eeks!
by iggysnitx July 25, 2007 5:45 PM PDT
The only line longer than the one in front of 365 Main will be the one at the courthouse when folks start suing them for violating their TOS and the service agreements due to the power failure.

Curiouser and curiouser.
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