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July 9, 2007 12:00 PM PDT

Phoneless iPhones coming by Macworld?

by Tom Krazit

The large screen and landscape viewing mode that come with the iPhone could make for a cheaper video iPod that can't phone home.

The iPhone is an iPod, after all, and a version without the phone and data capabilities could tempt shoppers this holiday season.

(Credit: Corrine Schulze/CNET Networks)

Apple watchers Piper Jaffray released a report Monday predicting that Apple will soon update its high-end iPod lineup with a wide-screen model that looks an awful lot like the iPhone, just without the phone and data connections. It's been a while since Apple released a new iPod, and rumors have been circulating for a long time that Apple has plans for a wide-screen iPod.

With the launch of the iPhone, Apple does indeed have that wide-screen iPod, but its hefty price and data plan requirements could turn off iPod users who just want that large screen without all the bells and whistles. Piper Jaffray estimates that for around $299 Apple could sell a phoneless iPhone that runs Mac OS X and uses the same touch-screen interface as the iPhone.

Tom Krazit writes about the ever-expanding world of Internet search, including Google, Yahoo, online advertising, and portals, as well as the evolution of mobile computing. He has written about traditional PC companies, chip manufacturers, and mobile computers, spending the last three years covering Apple. E-mail Tom.
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They're called IPODS!!!!
by ewelch July 9, 2007 12:53 PM PDT
Sheesh.
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and, your point is......
by batavier July 9, 2007 4:27 PM PDT
[must enter da body (c|net insists)] [now entering the body]
Phoneless YES - Dataless NO
by coolcat312 July 9, 2007 12:55 PM PDT
I'd buy an iPod that is an iPhone minus the AT&T hardware and
phone, but keep the WiFi and Safari and Mail. I wonder how much
more memory Apple could get into it without the cell radio? Add
stereo BlueTooth through A2DP and I'll line up for one.
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There's a name for that...
by VTAlum July 9, 2007 1:04 PM PDT
There's a name for a wide screen media player. It's called a Microsoft Zune.
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Nope
by tedk7 July 9, 2007 1:11 PM PDT
No, the Zune is a flaming piece of crap whose wireless capabilities
are limited to "squirting" DRM-laden poop at other flaming pieces
of crap.

The market has spoken, and it hates the Zune.
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Yep
by Lindy01 July 9, 2007 4:34 PM PDT
And there are phones like the Cingular 8525 that do everything the Iphone does and more.

Of course 3 years from now, the pole smoking, Apple can do no wrong, I want Steve Jobs man gravy, types will tell you that Apple came out with the wide screen MP3 player first....just like they do with Spotlight vs Vista search or time machine vs shadow copy...and many other things they did not get to first.

These are the same drones that will sleep on a sidewalk even thought they don?t need to. Cnet will post at least 2 articles a day about it 60 days prior to the release.

Oh and for that mental giant that said the Zune squirts DRM music?.yes it does, and non-DRM music, and so will any version of the Ipod that can share music with another device. DRM believe it or not was not invented by Microsoft or Apple?.even though you might think Apple had it first.

Hurry up drones I hear the line is forming!!! You can download Itunes 7.4 over edge using your iphone as a modem for your Macbooks?..if you start downloading right when you get in line you may just have a enough time!!
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Zune is Doom
by microsoft slayer July 9, 2007 1:13 PM PDT
I heard microsoft is thinking about killing off the poorly received Zune...welcome to the mp3 graveyard along with the Dell's defuncted JukeBoxer...
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Don't you have that backwards?
by Dalkorian July 9, 2007 2:37 PM PDT
I thought the zune was going to be the iPod killer, squirting it's
nastiness all over the world whether or not anyone wanted it (note:
I see iPods everywhere, but the only zune I've ever seen was in a
display case I was walking by at Target - and no one else was even
in the isle).

What do you call it when a killer dies? Justice?
What's the point of putting OS-X in the iPod
by tundraboy July 9, 2007 1:37 PM PDT
if you cripple the data connection? This thing has got to have wi-fi and full internet capabilities if they really want it to be a blockbuster product. I'd buy three right off the bat, mine and one each for the kids.
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Re: What's the point of putting OS-X in the iPod
by imacpwr July 9, 2007 7:49 PM PDT
Could I interest you in adapting a 51 year old kid...???
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WiFi is non-negotiable...
by cedartree84 July 9, 2007 1:54 PM PDT
In order for the next iPod to succeed, it needs to not only have WiFi but connect to the internet. Also, it should have the ability to connect to shared iTunes libraries using Bonjour.
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Isn't it obvious....
by sunman42 July 9, 2007 2:25 PM PDT
....every Xmas shopping season, there are people who stand
dumbstruck in line at Apple Stores, when they find that you need to
use a computer to get music for iPods. Why? No good reason, any
more. Anywhere there's WiFi, or even a good EVSO-like phone
network, you could download music, and simply skip the computer
part of iTunes. And if the the WiFi/3G iPod also happens to have a
pretty, OS X interface and a big, color screen, all the more likely to
make it sell.
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Keep WiFi
by imbiere July 10, 2007 5:40 AM PDT
Hoping for an iPhone without the phone, including the great internet browsing and WiFi. That would make a great iPod/PDA.

It is missing a good Outlook sync with categorized Notes and To Do Lists. There is not a good way on the iPhone to keep Notes synced to a Mac or PC. That would make the unit terrific.
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Note Syncing??? It's in there! (at least on the mac)
by bigjoe72 July 10, 2007 6:06 PM PDT
Microsoft actually did something that a lot of end users were
screaming for with Office 2004 and I would hope 2008. If you go
into your preferences, you will find an option for "Syncing Services",
which allows Entourage to sync with iCal for calendar, Address
Book well...for adresses, AND .Mac for notes. Granted it requires a
.Mac membership, but it can be done and works wonderfully.

P.S. To all those naysayers who said that the iPhone doesn't
support Exchange...IT'S IN THERE!
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Yes!
by alphapolitan July 10, 2007 7:18 PM PDT
Exactly!!! They should keep WiFi! To hell with AT&T!
More domination?
by sanjayb July 10, 2007 5:50 AM PDT
Apple should release an IPOD with all the fancy IPHONE features just before Christmas. I would predict that would capture the rest of the MP3 market that Apple doesn't have yet. :-)
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