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July 5, 2007 5:32 PM PDT

Apple logo--a real buzz kill

by Elinor Mills
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I found myself at a friend's birthday party July 4 eve with a bunch of San Francisco hipsters celebrating the fact that the next day was a holiday.

Downstairs, DJs were spinning techno and break beats; upstairs was a mellower scene. The attic of this historic home in the Presidio had been turned into the ultimate chill pad, the floors covered in futons and faux-fur throws, lamps throwing colored light on the ceiling; a carefully chosen ambient selection drifting from iTunes. On a big screen, the interactive iTunes Visualizer was warping the music into beautiful swirls of color and pattern, undulating and flowing in sync with the sounds. Everyone was happy; all guards down; the vibe good.

Then up on the screen popped...the white Apple logo. Repeatedly and spontaneously throughout the night. How brilliant, and troubling, of Jobs and Co. to sneak a billboard so intrusively into trippy visual art being watched by people quite possibly in a vulnerable state to marketing.

The logo reappears every few songs and remains at the center of the screen for what seems like half a minute or so before fading away. There is no option to disable it, but there are other visualizers that can be used. (See screenshot and more information on Wikipedia.)

I pointed the logo out to a friend who's an avowed Microsoft fan, definitely in the minority in this crowd. He laughed as he, ironically, was passing out apples to the blissful group. "Have an iApple slice" he said sarcastically. "And don't forget to use Google search."

Elinor Mills covers Internet security and privacy. She joined CNET News in 2005 after working as a foreign correspondent for Reuters in Portugal and writing for The Industry Standard, the IDG News Service, and the Associated Press. E-mail Elinor.
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hmmm....
by biggstuu July 5, 2007 6:19 PM PDT
must be complain about all things apple on cnet today...how i do
miss when cnet used to have journalists that wrote about, oooh,
whats that thing called again? um um, um...yeah thats it...news!
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Seconded
by MadKiwi July 5, 2007 7:32 PM PDT
Do you what you profess to be your job c|net
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Are You Kidding Me?
by AWeber30 July 5, 2007 6:24 PM PDT
You are complaining about Steve Jobs showing an Apple logo in
software that Apple itself has designed? I would be more surprised
if they didn't have it show up. Whoever wrote that article needs to
find something else to waste their time on, because I'm sure if they
designed something for a company they owned, they would put
there logo all over it. Enough said
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Too many c|net logos
by MadKiwi July 5, 2007 7:34 PM PDT
Every damn page I go to on this web site has at least one often two red c|net logos. What a downer...
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seriously
by pjhenry1216 July 6, 2007 2:55 AM PDT
you macfans have to learn to draw parallels that are, oh, i don't know, parallel? The feature we're talking about is visualization thats supposed to be calming and relaxing and then this big white logo appears RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE?? How obtrusive is the C|Net logo to your reading their articles and blogs? Oh wait, that's right... NOT AT ALL!

This just shows how good Apple is at marketing. Who would have thought a company could get people to follow them blindly as if they can't do anything wrong.
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Nine seconds...
by drumpat01 July 5, 2007 6:37 PM PDT
First I read an article where one of you bloggers complained that
you had to give your social security number for a credit
check...which you always have to do on any credit check for a new
cell phone...and now you dont like the apple logo which only
appears for 9 seconds....NINE SECONDS!!l You have a friend who is
an avid Microsoft fan?? Boy i wonder what that says about
you...hmm.....
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Mac fans are the worst
by pjhenry1216 July 6, 2007 3:00 AM PDT
Yea, cause there's no reason to be a microsoft fan. Oh yea, except if you like customization and also EVERYTHING DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE A BIG APPLE LOGO ON IT. It's not a fashion people.

The Mac is more stable. But you're locked into Apple-everything. Windows is less stable but its much more customizable and you can buy things from hundreds of third-parties (and everything doesn't need to be windows approved... unlike mac).

So, yea, you can be a fan of one or the other. It doesn't say much about either. But at least most Microsoft fans don't preach being MS fans... unlike a good portion of mac fans who think Jobs is God and that Apple is a way of life and a status symbol.

Mac: Hi I'm a mac
PC: And I'm a PC
Mac: So what you doing PC?
PC: Upgrading my Graphics card, RAM and Processor.
Mac: Oh.... Ummmm
PC: Don't you just love a good upgrade!
Mac: Well actually, I can't. If you want to upgrade you'll have to buy a new system...
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Microsoft Logo
by bmorrise July 5, 2007 7:01 PM PDT
The other day I was browsing software in CompUSA when I came to
the operating systems section. I looked down and was appalled to
see a Microsoft Windows Vista box with a Microsoft logo right on
it. I stared at it for minutes. The logo never went away. I turned to
my hard-core Apple friend and said, "Can you believe that they
would put their own logo on their own product?" Ironically, we was
wearing a Window repair shirt.
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again...
by pjhenry1216 July 6, 2007 3:01 AM PDT
Let's make analogies that make sense.

The Windows Vista box's purpose IS NOT visual. In fact it's purpose is to advertise. Unlike the visualization on iTunes. You already have it and are using it.

Some of us don't want to get brainwashed like you folks.
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Very nice post
by jollyjo2 July 5, 2007 7:19 PM PDT
If I did not know better I would believe Steve Jobs and Apple are on a mission to take over the world...
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No just to change it
by Lee in San Diego July 5, 2007 8:10 PM PDT
:)
Might work for you
by Redscooterist July 5, 2007 7:26 PM PDT
Cycle through the effects manually by pressing the following keys:

q w - change foreground effect
a s - change background effect
z x - change the colour

The keys q a z cycle back through the effects, and the keys w s x cycle forward. When you hit a key, the current effect gradually fades into the new effect, letting you manually change the slide show.

iTunes provides a few more keystroke controls:

d resets the visualizer to its default settings

f toggles the frame rate display on and off (shown in the top left of the display)

t toggles frame rate capping on and off. With frame rate capping on, visualizer never exceeds 30 frames per second. With capping off, presumably it can and may consume excessive CPU power (and battery juice in a laptop).

b holds the white Apple logo in the middle of the display, which eventually fades out. Alternatively, press d to reset the visualizer and remove the Apple logo immediately.

i displays the currently playing song information, which gradually fades out. Alternatively, press d to reset the visualizer and remove the current song information immediately.
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Another C/NET dolt
by Mr. Dogers2U July 5, 2007 7:34 PM PDT
Gee, and how much did you pay for that visualizer? Oh, wait,
iTunes is free so why don't you go out and pay for something for a
change and then complain.
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Boy do Mac fans get defensive fast
by aka_tripleB July 5, 2007 11:20 PM PDT
How about using Windows Media Player. You don't have to pay for it, AND it doesn't rely on subliminal messages. Say what you want about me, but you can't dispute my logic!
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It's a conspiracy!
by titanium667 July 5, 2007 7:38 PM PDT
I was channel surfing on my tv tonight and low and behold...
On Nick at Night they had a freaking logo in the corner!
So I switched to CNN... Another logo in the corner!
Then, on to my local NBC affiliate... ANOTHER LOGO IN THE
CORNER!!!!!!!! And on all these channels, their logos lasted
longer than Apples does in Visualizer!!!!! How dare these
networks force their logos upon us!!!!!! And finally on every
freakin' page on c/net news I see their logo!!!!!!!! This whole
experience is a real Buzz Kill! ;-)
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lol
by dondarko July 5, 2007 8:52 PM PDT
u funny
Envy much?
by unabutthead July 5, 2007 7:39 PM PDT
At any post, blog or story about Apple that isn?t absolutely fawning over the company are invariably followed by a handful of comments which whine about Microsoft.

Any post that mentions Microsoft, good, bad or indifferent, rarely if ever, generates an Apple reference.
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misleading title
by coolfactor July 5, 2007 7:49 PM PDT
This is more of an opinion piece than a legitimate article. Shame on c|net for
allowing such low-quality content on their site. Let's write about something
worthwhile. :-)
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It's a blog...moron!
by anarchyreigns July 5, 2007 7:58 PM PDT
<eom>
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There are Microsoft fans?
by Xenu7-214951314497503184010868 July 5, 2007 8:21 PM PDT
Don't you mean misguided Microsoft victims?

When pro-Microsoft journalists can only take potshots at Apple's logo on the iTunes visualizer, well . . . let's just say the war is over, and guess who lost.
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boo
by pjhenry1216 July 6, 2007 3:07 AM PDT
Sucks that the war is over. Damn shame the lion share of the market in the desktop computers went to Apple... oh wait.

Windows is better then Mac for some things. Mac is better than Windows for some things.

Get over it people! One isn't better then the other. It's called preference!

At least Microsoft fans aren't so god preachy.
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People actually watch iTunes visualisations?
by Lara Jass July 5, 2007 8:24 PM PDT
I thought they were stimulating the first few times i watched them.
but they always start the same and even the way they
transition/morph is the same. Then there is the inescapable apple
logo every few minutes. I wished there were more options, like
maybe using your iTunes album art, or something more
customizable.
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Sure beats waiting for the screensaver to kick in.
by davez2006 July 5, 2007 9:05 PM PDT
We need something to watch in the meantime.
How low can Cnet go?
by qwerty75 July 5, 2007 8:41 PM PDT
First it was Declan whining about how a CNET "reporter" could not get into a private meeting where no other journalists were allowed, even real ones. His "reasoning" was she should have been allowed in because it was a private meeting held in a public building. Like private meetings never happen in public spaces.

Now we have this genius crying about a visualizer made by Apple that has the Apple logo in it for a few seconds.

Ladies and Gentlemen! How low can you go?

The bar is now so low that the next guy in the limbo line is going to break his back.
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This Is Stupid
by bjarrett99 July 5, 2007 8:47 PM PDT
So what if you see the stupid Apple logo? Like you're not bombarded by marketing all the time. There are worse things to endure in this life. This is one of the lamest articles I've read; I don't even know why it was written. I don't know why I'm even commenting on it.
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How brilliant and troubling
by jd29 July 5, 2007 9:25 PM PDT
for c/net to put its logo in the top left corner of this ****** news blog.
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Written
by jcatma61 July 5, 2007 10:01 PM PDT
While the scab is still forming over the hologram of the Windows
logo that was just etched in your forearm.

Oh, pleaze!
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BREAKING NEWS AT CNET!
by totorototoro July 5, 2007 10:17 PM PDT
Wow, slow news day?
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At least Apple's logo is hip
by ancadre July 5, 2007 10:42 PM PDT
So what if Apple's logo is in the Visualizer? Apple's COOL. It
made the iPod and the iPhone. So many DJs use MacBooks. So
many young people have iPods. The iPhone is a status symbol.

I find nothing "buzz killing" about the Apple logo. Now Microsoft
is another story:

Microsoft: Your potential. Our passion. Now that will make the
partygoers say "***?"
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???
by pjhenry1216 July 6, 2007 2:47 AM PDT
Who cares what it made? It's not a status symbol. The iPhone lacks a HUGE amount of features that come standard on many smart phones nowadays. You people flock to anything Apple releases like a moth to a bright light.

iPhone's biggest draw: It looks pretty. ::GASP::

No matter what the company does, it doesn't make the logo trippy. It doesn't make the logo look better. It's obtrusive. Just like when Microsoft put the huge X-Box logo on their controllers, just in case you forgot what console you were using.

Apple is just another company people. It's not a state of mind. It's another business trying to get your money (not that there's anything wrong with that).
wow
by rapier1 July 6, 2007 7:56 AM PDT
you are talking about a global corporation who's main interest is divorcing you from your money as being 'cool'?
Even more lackluster than a default visualizer....
by sandman619 July 6, 2007 2:20 AM PDT
Try running anything microsoft and tell me that their windows logo does not appear as
default desktop, screen saver, generic icon & more. So probably the real point of this
lame commentary is to make Apple seem less hip & cool? Nah, if you are running the
default visualizer, then you are the buzz-kill. Get some imagination, get some real
newsworthy subjects & get a life.

Cheers!
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wow
by pjhenry1216 July 6, 2007 2:51 AM PDT
You must really have lost brain cells somewhere along the lines to draw a comparison between the two. The logo isn't obtrusive. It doesn't pop up in the middle of the article you're reading every couple articles just to remind you that "hey, you're reading c|net." maybe if apple decided to have the apple logo be a small little thing at the top left corner and just leave it there, that'd be better. But the whole feature is based around visualization (while c|net isn't) and the logo kills it.

Face it. Apple designed something poorly. It can happen. Apple != infallible.
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