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June 21, 2007 3:29 PM PDT

Buy AT&T/Yahoo DSL and get... e-mail ads!

by Elinor Mills

Customers paying for AT&T and Yahoo's co-branded DSL service are outraged about ads that started showing up over the last few weeks that take up quite a bit of real estate on the page. A chunky "skyscraper" ad now runs up and down the right side of the page. There have always been ads on Yahoo's free Web-based e-mail service, but paying customers say the monthly fees they pay should be enough to spare them the advertising.

"AT&T Yahoo has inserted advertising into every corner and crevice of the AT&T Yahoo 7 Browser interface for email," one CNET News.com reader wrote in an e-mail. "Users of AT&T Yahoo are outraged. The company said that they needed to provide this 'feature' to give us 'unlimited storage space.' Most of us didn't want 'unlimited storage space.'"

"I'm perfectly fine with ads, but not of this enormous size. I'm completely appalled," wrote one customer in a forum on the Broadband Reports site.

"I will gladly pay more for no advertising...so why don't you charge me more and for those unwilling to pay more... you can SPAM them!!!" another wrote. "I am so angry I think steam must be coming out of my ears."

The situation prompted Nate Anderson of tech news site Ars Technica to post a humorous "letter" to Yahoo this week:

"So I get a graphical ad on the right side of the screen. Not cool, but ok, whatever. But it didn't stop there. Small text ads have appeared just above my 'Inbox' and three more are positioned just below my list of custom folders. They look 'cluttery,' like the knickknack shelf above my grandma's fireplace with its collection of wooden owls. Also, you've tacked an ad to the 'sent mail' confirmation screen. Thanks! Diving into this with both feet, I see."

Someone has even posed a question on Yahoo Answers asking how to get rid of the ads:

"When Yahoo/AT&T/SBC switched to adding ads in the browser page of my email, at first I was 'eh...it's not so bad' but now, its causing issues with my computer. Or at least it seems that way. Email takes along time to load, it stutters as it loads. Just annoying. Any suggestions other than use a different mail browser?"

Sadly, as of three days later there was not one answer.

Yahoo's answer to me, via a spokesman, was that they have received "minimal feedback" about the ads and that it was a "business decision by both companies to do this."

Then the canned e-mail Yahoo statement arrived: "This will serve as a new source of revenue to help maintain our commitment of delivering a leading broadband experience complete with industry leading features at a competitive price. As we remain committed to providing users with the best possible online experience, the new advertisements will be carefully integrated and aimed at being useful to consumers."

Hmmmm. "Carefully integrated" and "useful?" Try again.

Maybe Yahoo should take a cue from Microsoft. The software giant provoked a similar response early on when it tested skyscraper ads, but decided to drop the ads and forgo the revenue.

Update 10:00 a.m. June 22: I received e-mails and reader feedback noting that although Yahoo claims not to have received a lot of customer complaints about this matter there are pages and pages and pages on Yahoo's own Yodel Anecdotal blog of angry barbs written by customers furious about the ads. Too many comments to count. I'd say that's not so "minimal."
Elinor Mills covers Internet security and privacy. She joined CNET News in 2005 after working as a foreign correspondent for Reuters in Portugal and writing for The Industry Standard, the IDG News Service, and the Associated Press. E-mail Elinor.
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Yahoo email is run by idiots - more bad changes today
by SandraDallas June 21, 2007 4:26 PM PDT
Today, in addition to losing all that screen space to annoying ads, I found that the "delete" button is now where the "reply" button used to be! I use Yahoo Mail Beta, don't know if it has happened on the regular version. And the reply button is now located, you guessed it! right next to the delete button. How incredibly stupid to put those buttons right next to each other.

On another note, someone "chat" got turned on or maybe its a new feature and every time I open my inbox it tries to connect. While its trying to do so it slows the loading of my inbox. I did a search in the help section for "disable chat" and came up with nothing.

In all my years of using software and the internet I have never been so disgusted. The day the ads showed up I called technical assitance and was the 72nd caller! And they claim they haven't had very many complaints!
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What is so difficult?
by satchev June 22, 2007 4:07 AM PDT
As for the Delete and Reply buttons... they've been side by side since the Beta email was release as far as I know. Look at what you are doing and you'll be surprised how many mistakes you avoid.

The chat in email was a 'feature' that Yahoo touted several months back. It is integrated to allow the ability to sign into email and be able to IM without having to sign into messenger. If you don't like it, revert back to the regular email. You are not required to use Beta.

As for the ads... Why in the H3LL are you using the Yahoo browser????? Remove the darn thing and use either IE or Firefox. Nothing in your agreement with ATT/Yahoo for Internet service requires you to use their stupid browser.
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Maybe use AdBlock on Firefox?
by keithpr June 21, 2007 5:02 PM PDT
Short of a user backlash forcing Yahoo to get rid of the ads, I wonder if using the AdBlock add-on in Firefox can help get rid of them?
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Do it like this, not perfect, though
by ao9news June 27, 2007 12:20 PM PDT
Follow the posts of this user:

http://www.mitchelaneous.com/2007/05/04/yahoo-unlimited-e-mail-storage-ads-for-everybody/#comment-20015

You'll still end up with a very annoying vertical blank space there, but no ads, and if you're having problems with speed, then it might be a bit better too.
Another way around the ads
by christopherdorrell June 21, 2007 6:29 PM PDT
If you use a mail program such as Mail for the Mac, the ads are gone. I will just wait until they remove the ads and use the web based mail only when necessary. That will make it a little less painful.
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Post on Yahoo's Blog
by schuck June 22, 2007 8:39 AM PDT
Yahoo and ATT's claim that they have had "minimal complaints" is pure B.S. Add your complaint to Yahoo on their own blog at:

http://yodel.yahoo.com/2007/05/14/unlimited-storage-its-coming

Yahoo and ATT are being flooded with complaints for the past weeks. Yahoo has even tried band-aid fixes to the further ire of paying subscribers.
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no ads in yahoomail plus
by sharppaul June 22, 2007 3:16 PM PDT
I have a yahoo mail plus account - $20/yr with no ads.
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has your account been "upgraded" yet?
by ao9news June 27, 2007 12:25 PM PDT
The ads are only showing after the accounts have been updated. Some people who have Yahoo mail plus have complained too, but it's only implied that they were paying directly to yahoo and not that they're "just" DSL customers, who used to get "Yahoo Mail Plus" as a feature with the package too.

So do you have the new Yahoo messenger feature? You should be able to see it in the top of your page. Also, did you have 2GB limit before, and now have unlimited?
Tried to complain - they wouldn't let me
by gary_wagner June 29, 2007 11:20 AM PDT
Maybe the reason they haven't gotten a lot of complaints is because the tool they make you use for providing feedback doesn't work. I tried four times to send them a message asking them to get rid of that annoying ad or I would find another email service. It wouldn't work any of those four times.

Look like google wins again. I'm going to start using my gmail account from now on since Yahoo refuses to listen to its user base.
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by smawg March 29, 2009 6:53 PM PDT
No where to complain to. I have had DSL through Bellsouth/AT&T for a few years. Bellsouth e-mail was clumsey and tedious, but at least I could check e-mail. This new Yahoo e-mail page is maddening! Not only the wait for all the ads to load, but at least two out of three attempts to check e-mail returns a "Sorry for the inconvenience..." message, and I have to go back to the home page and start over. I wish I could go back to the Bellsouth screen, but none of the "contact us" screens actually provide a way to contact Yahoo or Bellsouth about e-mail problems. I'm ready to go to g-mail myself.
AT&T overwhelming advertising on email page
by cpmuller April 3, 2008 4:08 AM PDT
4/3/08: AT&T's email account customers continue to endure unwanted advertising embedded into, what they expect to be, their personal email page. The paid-for service now includes large embedded advertising icons within the customer's actual email list of messages, not just outside that particular box. I believe most email subscribers perceive this to be a gross intrusion into their 'personal' space. When will AT&T return to putting the customer FIRST - above all else???
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by michael661618 June 15, 2008 7:41 PM PDT
I have att/yahoo dsl. their browser (ATT/YAHOO) doesnt allow me to add bookmarks. I talked to the tech who transferred me to another tech who said he couldnt trouble shoot ATT/YAHOO IE BROWSER because his computer was using FIREFOX! Good Grief. lol. I asked him if that's the case how can you trouble shoot me? He said he didnt know.. (okay ) So I have to go to regular ie and add bookmarks instead of usking their ATT/YAHOO browser? Good grief. GUYS DO NOT GO WITH ATT DSL..RUN RUN RUN. I ve no choice. but instead of logging on to their own ATT/YAHOO interface ill have to start using the vanilla IE. I dont want to do this because I want to use their version. Its simple, but alas its not working. . I'll live with this..but if they cant even trouble shoot their own ATT/YAHOO IE Browser there is a problem.
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by cruisemates July 30, 2008 10:07 AM PDT
Do NOT subscribe to AT&Ts DSL service. I don't care about the ads becaus I use my own email, but their customer support is unbelievably bad. They lose install orders and their billing is awful.

I have the DSL in my San Diego vacation home. It was disconnected because I missed a bill, sorry, but I paid a reinstatement fee and they did not turn my DSL back on because I did not call them and SAY I wanted my DSL on again. My phone continued to work, but the DSL was off when I arrived for my vacation.

Never did they contact me to say it was going off. Why? Because they are only allowed to call the house that has the DSL service. They have NO way of recording a different contact number. I don't live in that house,its my vacation home.

Upon finding out it was off, I called AT&T. I spent two hours talking to India, being put on hold repeatedly (without asking) anytime I asked a question a different department might handle. Three departments: billing, collections and service IN INDIA do not share information. Once it was onbvious they couldn't help me (2 hours) they connected me to a U.S. center (collections).

Upon hearing my complaints of no notification and using my vacation info as their contact they said "That's the way AT&T works, sir," - no help, no apology, no nothing except the run around.

I had to submit a new order for new service (they said) which was five days out. I knew they could throw a switch - I know DSL. I have all the equipment already installed. NO! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE, AT&T DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY"

Five days later my DSL did NOT come on. I called INDIA again. After an hour they realized I had a valid install scheduled for that day, but it had been lost. So guess what, they "flipped the switch" and turned it on.

ASH POLES!
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by BushtamanteATT August 23, 2009 1:52 AM PDT
AT&T has some of the worst people you can deal with. The DSL is lousy and the deal is full of hidden charges.
Six month into the contract I got rid of it because of problems with the service and the charges did not match what was advertised - and no one seemed to be listening. They sent me a charge for Early Termination of $90. I called them and they said I had to keep it for a year to avoid it - reasonable - and he told me if I reinstated it I would not be charged. So I said reinstate it. Later I discovered they created a new 1 year contract and charged for the early termination too. I called them and compalined about the charges. But no one listens. They just don't.

I'd avoid ATT Yahoo DSL. Or anything to do with ATT that deals with internet service.

Nothing against ATT - I have cell phones from ATT and dealing with that dept has just been fine.
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by TheComputerDoctor September 1, 2009 6:36 PM PDT
What's so difficult?

Nothing is difficult about it other than the fact that EVERYTHING has changed. I didn't sign up for yahoo. Hell, I didn't sign up for AT&T but unfortunately, bellsouth did so nothing to it until this yahoo crap started. I've been a Bellsouth customer for over a decade and not much changed after the joint venture with AT&T. Now, within the last month, my DSL service has been experiencing 3-10 hour outages at random whereas before I have NEVER had an outage. I don't even use the web-based email but what do you know, one day I open outlook express and it asks me to confirm my password for all six of my accounts I use and all the passwords were incorrect. I was told that I HAD to login to the web based email so that it would 'confirm' my change to the at&t -yahoo email pages. I had to do this every time I opened outlook express for about a week and now I finally got over that. It didn't stop there, however, now when I open OE, what used to take less than a second to check my mailboxes, it takes up to a minute for each of the six accounts even if there is NO NEW MAIL.

The fact is, people pay for speed and efficiency which is why they opted to use bellsouth/at&t but piling all these new undesired features on top of the service is complete crap!
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by Kuya-D November 6, 2009 9:34 PM PST
I'm just wondering if this pain in the xxx problem with the ads is a result of using the supplied
AT&T-Yahoo software. I say this because I use (for want of a better expression) a generic DSL connection, and Google for my IE7 homepage, and Outlook 2007 for email. I've not experienced any of the hassles with the ads mentioned here...

FYI ... You don't have to use the AT&T-Yahoo software to access the internet, and if they try to tell you you have to, well that's a bunch of baloney! I've never used their software, and my AT&T-Yahoo DSL runs like a well tuned engine - smooth and rouble free. And, none of those lousy ads!

In all fairness to this issue, I did try the software when I first bought the service a little more than a year ago, and frankly I can't really say here what I'd like to about their software, but suffice it to say that I'd rather have a root canal without pain medication than use it...

Peace Be With Everyone...

Kuya-D
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