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June 18, 2007 7:35 AM PDT

Apple: You can gab on that iPhone for eight hours

by Caroline McCarthy
(Credit: Apple)

According to Apple, you can ditch your fears over the rumor that the iPhone has 45 minutes of talk time. The company announced Monday that the much-anticipated handset will ship with much better battery life than was expected when it was first announced in January. The iPhone will finally be released, as you probably already know, on Friday June 29.

The numbers from Apple? The company had initially anticipated that the iPhone battery would allow five hours of talk time (though rumors around the blogosphere suggested it was actually much less than that), but now Apple is boasting that it'll last a full eight hours with a whopping 250 hours of standby time. Apple is also saying that you'll alternately be able to enjoy six hours of Internet use, seven hours of video playback, or 24 hours of audio playback. That's twice as long as the ultra-efficient iPod Shuffle.

A comparison chart from Apple pitting the iPhone against its rivals.

(Credit: Apple)

Additionally, the touch-screen of the iPhone has been upgraded from plastic to optical glass to make it clearer and more scratch-proof. So, with that and the extended battery life, maybe you can take your iPhone on wilderness excursions.

Update at 10:12 a.m. PDT: Whoops! There was an error in Apple's original competitive data chart (above, corrected). The original chart said that the Nokia N95 did not have Wi-Fi capabilities. It, in fact, does.

Caroline McCarthy, a CNET News staff writer, is a downtown Manhattanite happily addicted to social-media tools and restaurant blogs. Her pre-CNET resume includes interning at an IT security firm and brewing cappuccinos. E-mail Caroline.
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One word:
by Penguinisto June 18, 2007 8:33 AM PDT
pwnage.

With WiFi, I don't have to pay out the arse for some provider's ungodly expensive "data plan" just to get connected (AT&T damned well better not charge to unlock that WiFi lovin', either).

The rest is... well, right there in the chart.

Man, I can't fscking wait.

/P
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Free wifi to the rescue
by Vegaman_Dan June 18, 2007 9:07 AM PDT
You'll need that wifi to do any useful data surfing definitely. With Edge, the data transfer is equivalent to slow AOL dialups. Free public unsecured wifi connections will be your savior there. Not anything I'd trust to do secure browsing on, but that's true of any free wifi spot.
About that data plan...
by Christopher Hall June 18, 2007 9:39 AM PDT
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7683

Pay me now or pay me later, but either way, iPay.
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N95 has wifi
by MRMOAV June 18, 2007 9:47 AM PDT
Ok, the N95 does have wifi and the blackjack using it's smaller
battery with 3 hours of talk time is actually a bit thinner then the
iphone... though it does have the camera hump though. One, thing
I did notice having had a chance to use the iphone last week is that
it is HEAVY!!! i mean even more so then my beloved 8700c which I
can hold upto my ear for more then a few minutes.
Ahhh
by Lindy01 June 18, 2007 10:58 AM PDT
our daily cnet Iphony story.

"The rest is... well, right there in the chart" minus a few rows like......

price
3g
Native Exchange compatibility
Hundres of applications that can run on it

the pwnage......goes to "they dont say"?

So $150 Blackjack....or a $499-$599 for a Iphone?

Have fun looking for the those hot spots.
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Yeap!
by Xtoo June 18, 2007 8:38 AM PDT
This "upgrades" were expected. Sounds great!
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Learn from the past
by Pixelslave June 18, 2007 8:51 AM PDT
If history repeats itself, people need not be too happy too soon. Remember how Apple marketed its PPC chip Mac? It kept saying the PPC chips are "X" times faster than comparable x86 CPU. But when Apple released its own x86 machine, suddenly, the x86 CPU is "X" times faster than the PPC chip they used. The number never gets too match up.
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different chips, genius
by muskratboy June 18, 2007 10:07 AM PDT
yes, the x86 chip they switched to IS faster than the ppc chip. just as the ppc chip was faster than the OLD x86 chipsets.

you do understand that these are all different chips, right?

and that the REASON apple switched was because the NEW x86 was faster/more efficient. i don't understand what the problem is here.
PPC Was Faster ... For A While
by open-mind June 18, 2007 10:14 AM PDT
PPC was faster ... for a while. And that's the time period where Apple was making those claims. Then a few years went by where IBM didn't keep up with AMD/Intel. Only after that did Apple make the reverse claims about Intel.

Also, you can't fully quantify the performance of a CPU (much less a computer) with just one number. There are way too many things to measure. However, battery capacity can be pretty well quantified with just one number.
Here's why.
by ethana2 June 18, 2007 10:15 AM PDT
They never match up because things are constantly improving. Be grateful for that. If you want something that doesn't vary as much, benchmark some computation at home project on linux vs windows kernel or measure uptime on online servers.
I would expect no less
by Vegaman_Dan June 18, 2007 9:03 AM PDT
Since my current phone exceeds these ratings, I would expect decent battery ratings for the new iPhone. I'm glad that they say it will last eight hours. They'll need that sort of lifespan to be competitive with other OEM's that exceed it now.
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How long before the first battery recall? -grin NT
by john55440 June 18, 2007 9:20 AM PDT
No Text
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Your Phone! Your iPod! Your PDA!
by Robbo75 June 18, 2007 9:58 AM PDT
All lost at the same time!!! Gee, imagine the fun it'll be the day you pull up your pants too quick and see your phone, iPod, and PDA all lost when it drops in the toilet and dies.

What they need to do is hook it up to an online storage device so we can get new iPhones and have all of our data intact.
Until then, I'll keep my peripherals separate. If I lose my phone, I still have my music to keep me company.
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Nope.
by ethana2 June 18, 2007 10:11 AM PDT
Seems to me, if they're all one thing, like they should be, (a pc) it's that much easier to make them all waterproof at once.

I must admit, I've never heard anyone voice support for the logic of separating all your functions out on different devices. But assuming the central device sucks, I guess I see where you're coming from. You do have a windows machine, right?
it does (sorda)
by kyler June 18, 2007 11:05 AM PDT
to add contacts,music, pics, calendar events, etc.. you mainly use
the computer - iTunes for music, iCal for calendar, AddressBook
for contacts, iPhoto for pictures, etc - so as long as you don't lose
your computer, everything is, in a way, backed up...

http://www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/getready.html
Nokia n95 has wifi..... it has every function a fone can ever have
by sachin0072 June 18, 2007 10:04 AM PDT
Apple is for the amateurs ..... who just look at it and think it is the best gadget.... in terms of functionality.... apple is nowhere near nokia!!!
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wow, EVERY function EVER!
by muskratboy June 18, 2007 10:11 AM PDT
that is truly an amazing device. is it from the future? Is nokia the recipient of far-advanced alien technology?

thank you, dr. hyperbole, for your insight. now i'm going to have my nokia n95 make me a cup of coffee and walk my dog.
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Horrible build design
by MRMOAV June 18, 2007 10:19 AM PDT
Have you used the N95? The design build on it is terrible it just
terrible for a $700 phone . in a dark room it looks like the
phone is about to bust apart. Lite escapes from every nook and
cranny. I can't believe they actually built it this way, it is terrible.
However, the greates thing on then N95 is that you can use it
with 3.5mm standard headphone jacks. But you have to pay 200
bucks more for it then the iphone and it gets so hot after talking
on it for 15 minutes. The camera is great but the symbian OS
just ruins the photo editing features. Also, it is so slow, like
mollases in january and even worse it doesn't even work on our
3G networks for some reason. Plus the battery life is horrible,
horrible!!!
What are you smokin
by rjpotts June 18, 2007 11:36 AM PDT
and can you share it with the rest of us.
YEAH!
by Speiler9 June 18, 2007 12:21 PM PDT
Apple is for the amatuers....!
Is that why everyone I know who runs a show intertainment world
either has an Apple computer or wants one? despite not being
prfect, ( and what company is...) they offer a great deal in terms of
stability and useabilty that Windows users are just plain jealous of.

Correct me if i a wrong!
It's not features but benefits that sell a product.
by Macsaresafer June 18, 2007 2:38 PM PDT
Sure, the Nokia has mostly the same features, but the iPhone
has all the benefits.

Web browsing for example, is a feature on both phones, but
because it's real web browsing on the iPhone it's a benefit.

Voicemail is a feature on both, but a benefit on the iPhone
because of Visual Voicemail.

Email is a real email client, so it's a benefit on the iPhone... the
list goes on and on...
Well duh.
by ethana2 June 18, 2007 10:07 AM PDT
What did you expect? It's a crippled pc. PC's require smaller process sizes to be able to do what they do, because they need, on average, more processing power. I think all these dedicated devices need to die, and we need to see smaller laptops with better power saving features. I could play, well, multiple days of music if I configured the software right. And those man bags don't look half bad if you have the right glasses ;)
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Never!
by Christopher Hall June 18, 2007 10:20 AM PDT
I cannot emphasize this enough: there is [b]never[/b] a valid excuse for a manbag.
Also, I bet they use...
by umbrae June 18, 2007 11:44 AM PDT
Recalled Sony batteries to help enhance you July 4th weekend!
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THAT'LL BE ONE SMUDGED UP SCREEN!
by sandoggjack June 18, 2007 3:16 PM PDT
It may be glass and scratch-proof, but what about all the greasy finger smudges the screen will have constantly. You'll have to wipe it on your shirt, pants, dress after every use!
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Business opportunity
by kool_skatkat June 19, 2007 1:04 AM PDT
Easy solution and business opportunity. There are clothes that you buy that you store with the phone. Finally that business will fly. People that have camera and wear glasses know where to get them.
YOU MORON! DON'T BUY AN IPHONE!
by iMacUser June 18, 2007 4:01 PM PDT
You know it won't be any good! The battery life will suck. I hear
the number "9" on the virtual keypad continually sticks. Just like
the AppleTV, it will never be hacked. Don't even think that you'll
be able to get your own widgets on board! I hear the battery
will likely explode. Also, it may violate several patents and will
likely be confiscated after you purchase it. It'll probably leave
the toilet seat up too. The iPhone has been known to start coups
d'etat in several small countries... like Rwanda & Burundi. Rumor
has it that Steve Jobs gets paid a 25 cent royalty on every single
TXT message you send AND receive. You'll probably have to pay
an extra $100 a month for a full binary data... the $50 plan only
transmits zeros and receives ones. The screen scratches if you
look at it the wrong way. It will randomly dial your friends at
3AM.

Hopefully everyone will listen to me and I can cruise on into the
AT&T on June 29th and pick up one without waiting! If you want
every feature known to man, buy a Windows Mobile phone, like
my current one. If you want a nicely, but by no means
exhaustively, featured phone that just plain works very well, the
iPhone is probably you're best hope.
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Cnet nothing but apple shills?
by Magicland June 18, 2007 5:55 PM PDT
Nice chart. Where'd you get it? Oh, I see, Apple. Aren't you clowns supposed to be journalists? Can't you make up your own, unbiased comparison chart? Say, instead of a wifi column, with a 3G column? Oh wait, the iphone doesn't have that. How about instant messaging? Nope. Syncs with Outlook? Nope. Requires an itunes account. Oh, yeah, it does, but apple doesn't want to spread that you not only need a subscription with AT&T, but also with itunes in order to share any sort of data. And has ANY independant review estabished the 8 hour talk time? No? So give us a call when that's actually news rather than speculation.
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EVERBODY IS SPECULATING!
by iMacUser June 18, 2007 10:05 PM PDT
A bit disingenuous yourself. What does establishing an iTunes
account cost? What's the big deal? Do you really think most people
interested in an iPhone don't already have an iTunes account??? 3%
of the people who actually purchase an iPhone will have to create
iTunes accounts because they don't have one yet. Big Deal... Non-
Issue.

Also, who still IMs? OK, all you AOLers put your hands down! You've
made your point! You can still use iPhone's Safari to go to aol.com,
log into your AIM account, and join the 1990s! Don't forget to IM
the Backstreet Boys while you're there!

Have you tried syncing it with Outlook? No? Give us a call when you
quit speculating. My Windows Mobile 5 phone doesn't even sync
with Outlook, at least not reliably. Microsoft's own products seem
to dislike syncing with each other. I'd list this as a "feature" of the
iPhone, not a "fault".

Is anyone afraid of iTunes? I'm sure there is an "iTunes For
Dummies" book out there... or, if you get confused, ask any soccer
mom how she syncs her iPod. iTunes is only used everyday to sync
the millions of iPods out there.

It IS a shame that it there will be no configuration involved... I'm
really going to miss ActiveStync!
Well, duh
by Fochsenhirt June 19, 2007 11:55 AM PDT
Of course everyone is speculating. The JesusPhone still hasn't been released. I hope everyone who claims to want a JesusPhone buys one for $600. Then the phones that actually let people do real work will be even cheaper. When it can get push mail from an Exchange server, let me know. Otherwise, I'll keep my Blackjack and nano.
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