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June 15, 2007 3:19 PM PDT

Pirates nab Michael Moore's yet-to-be released doc

by Michelle Meyers
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From all that we've heard about Michael Moore's soon-to-be released documentary indictment of the U.S. health care system, he clearly supports universal health care.

But does he support universal Web access to his film two weeks before its official release? Probably not, or at least his studio doesn't.

Advertising Age reported Friday that Moore's new film, Sicko, has been pirated and is widely available for free download on the Web at BitTorrent and peer-to-peer sites. Advertising Age reporter Claude Brodesser-Akner wrote that he easily downloaded a copy and watched it late Thursday night.

The breach follows Moore's move last week to stash a copy of the film in Canada, "in case the federal government decided to impound it over an apparently unauthorized trip to Cuba made during its filming," Brodessor-Akner wrote.

Moore didn't seem to mind when his Fahrenheit 9/11 found its way to the file-sharing world--he even encouraged piracy at the time. However, that pirate ship didn't sail until after the film was out in theaters. The official release date for Sicko is June 29, known in the Apple world as iPhone Day.

Michelle Meyers is an associate editor who tracks online happenings in media, entertainment, and politics. E-mail Michelle.
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Mixed feelings about this
by cutedeedle June 15, 2007 8:41 PM PDT
On the one hand, it's appalling that anyone's film has already been pirated, even Moore's -- as much as I detest the very thought of him, not to mention his philosophy and junk he produces. On the other hand, it couldn't happen to a nicer guy, heh heh.

Universal health care? Oh yeah. So we can all be equally miserable without access to decent medical care -- the lowest common denominator for all? Do people run to the UK, Russia, Cuba, China or Canada when they want top quality medical doctors or procedures? Naah. They come here from all over the world because we have the best, which isn't true with universal/socialized medicine. And we will go bankrupt trying to fund Medicare in the future (the dirty little secret of the feds) -- who does Moore think will pay for universal socialized health care, with fewer and fewer workers in the labor pool in the future to bear that burden? The pious answer is to tax big business. Guess who pays for that in the end -- do you think those taxes and costs are absorbed by businesses due to the goodness of their hearts? It's naive to believe that. Ranting about big business is fruitless. They have an obligation to watch the bottom line for their stockholders.

Let's not even discuss the idea of waiting months, years, or .... never ...... for getting so-called elective surgeries under universal care. I'll pass, thank you.

And trust me, nobody is without medical care in this country. I didn't say insurance, I said care. There are County clinics, hospitals, even doctors, that provide free care for anyone who cannot pay. I know, I worked for County government for 15 years and nobody was turned away from the County clinic system OR the County hospital. This whole idea of the poor and impoverished not having access to health care is a crock and a smokescreen.

One last comment about the cost of health care in this country. Thank the likes of nasty scumbags like John Edwards for that state of affairs. He made his $50 million worth suing doctors and hospitals with dubious medical malpractice lawsuits. And guess again who ends up paying for the higher malpractice insurance in that case?

Duh.
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Maybe you should see the film first....
by xpgeek11 June 15, 2007 10:33 PM PDT
The films not even about people without health insurance for your information, its actually about fully insured people being completely screwed over by their health insurance companys. Try seeing it first before bashing it just because of who its made by.
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I can almost see the leash
by phillsawyer June 16, 2007 5:12 AM PDT
Those are borrowed thoughts and implanted emotions. You should - but never will, think about what you are saying. Otherwise you will continue to spit out more cliches while your life sails by.
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So it's okay to steal?
by qprize June 16, 2007 8:30 AM PDT
So long as it's from someone you don't like or are simply too
ignorant to fathom even the most basic concepts of
documentary film making?

The subject is Larceny, not politics. But since you
can't grasp the "nuances" (and that's not a term usually
associated with Moore's work) of Sicko - which you can't
have seen unless you've already pirated it
- it's likely too
much to ask that you understand that.
You people need get out of the sandbox...
by jelloburn June 16, 2007 8:51 AM PDT
I love how a news story about film pirating turns into an all out
political battle as Right wing backers try to actually justify the
illegal distribution of this film, because they don't like Michael
Moore. And the backers on the Left can't keep their mouths
shut, but instead try and defend Moore, when in the end, our
political discussions here don't matter.

It's just like on an Apple or Microsoft story. One company
releases software or an update, and somebody backing the other
company comes in and starts yelling about a subject that isn't
even mentioned in the story, and then comes the flamewars.

You don't like Michael Moore? I don't care. Don't like the idea of
National Healthcare? I don't care. In fact, none of us care about
your political beliefs, what operating system you use, how much
money you wasted to make your computer case glow, or what
you eat for breakfast.

Stick to commenting on what the story is about, and these
comment boards might be worth reading.

As for the story, they need to track down the people that do
this, and when they find them, they need to throw them in jail
for 20 years with the biggest cellmate they can find. Why people
think it's okay to go to a P2P service and download movies
completely bewilders me. If you want to see a movie, go rent it
or buy it.
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how lonely are the righteous
by doubtful1 June 16, 2007 4:22 PM PDT
"As for the story, they need to track down the people that do this, and when they find them, they need to throw them in jail for 20 years with the biggest cellmate they can find. Why people think it's okay to go to a P2P service and download movies completely bewilders me."

please, mr. overzealous pontificator. go get a glass of water and take your pill. 20 years for stealing a movie? yeah... that sounds about right. paid all of your taxes lately? ever stopped at the bar on the way home from work and tipped a few perhaps?
you sure are upset for someone that doesn't care and doesn't think these boards are worth reading.
oh yeah... a friend of mine let me borrow an old shawn cassidy record so i can put it on tape. please don't turn me in!
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More power to the people, less profit to Moore!
by nicmart June 16, 2007 9:11 AM PDT
As a socialist Moore should be thrilled that the masses are working
to remove the profit from his latest effort. If he wasn't such a
greedy sod he would have released the movie directly to YouTube.
He has to keep paying for those empty calories and trips to
Cannes, though.
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Moore gets a taste of his own medicine
by nicmart June 16, 2007 9:25 AM PDT
How stark is the distinction. Stealing is wrong if it is done by
individuals, but just fine when the government does it. That is the
essence of Moore's socialism, so he has no moral justification for
complaining when he is robbed. He advocates the confiscation of
money from some people to give to others, so he's just getting a
little dose of his own medicine.
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didn't notice ...
by kfdan June 16, 2007 4:31 PM PDT
Moore stealing from you? Certainly the government takes what it
can, when it can and how it can and we may bounce off the
rafters in anger about it ~ not because the government takes the
money but mainly because it wastes it!
Moore is focusing on social elements that even the most dense
Americans can understand as a grave imbalance. He presents it
~ that's all he does. If his documentary gets stolen and he makes
a few dollars less, he probably doesn't really care! It's about the
issues and that I think he does care about. He's a great
American!
didn't notice ...
by kfdan June 16, 2007 4:33 PM PDT
Moore stealing from you? Certainly the government takes what it
can, when it can and how it can and we may bounce off the
rafters in anger about it ~ not because the government takes the
money but mainly because it wastes it!
Moore is focusing on social elements that even the most dense
Americans can understand as a grave imbalance. He presents it
~ that's all he does. If his documentary gets stolen and he makes
a few dollars less, he probably doesn't really care! It's about the
issues and that I think he does care about those. He's a great
American!
personal responsibility
by doubtful1 June 16, 2007 5:44 PM PDT
if the government is stealing from you, it's because you're letting them. i wouldn't mind paying high taxes if i was actually getting something for them. regardless of what you think of MM's politics, he has the gonads to ask the questions that our politicians and corporate leaders don't like being asked. the honest answers to these questions make us all look bad; both the perpetrators and the victims for letting people get away with their crap for so long that we accept it and become cynical.
don't blame MM for showing us to ourselves.
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Oh, sure, just like Fidel
by nicmart June 16, 2007 5:36 PM PDT
You neglect one small fact, of course. Moore wants the injustices
he perceives to be corrected by having government forcibly
confiscate money from some Americans so it can be spent on
other Americans. In moral and practical terms this is known as
theft. Socialists like to deflect attention from the means by which
they achieve their ends. They are willing to break eggs to make
omelets. The use of violence to achieve ends is an unavoidable
element of socialism. The Fidel who Moore lauds is an infamous
mass murderer. Normally I'd oppose the bootlegging of a movie,
but for the socialist Moore I'll make an exception as the people
liberate him from his money. All power to the people!
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speaking of neglecting facts...
by doubtful1 June 16, 2007 5:57 PM PDT
sounds like you're blaming MM for the government "forcibly confiscating money so it can be spent on other people" i don't know if you're aware, but i'm pretty sure that's been going on since before MM was born.

put down your bong for a couple of days and step outside. in moral and practical terms this is called reality.
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Theft as old as government itself
by nicmart June 16, 2007 7:15 PM PDT
A defense of government theft based on the fact that the
practice is ages old ranks with a defense of slavery and murder
on the same basis. All of them are old, and all are immoral.

It is a sign of the feebleness of statist morality that the best its
supporters can do is to say that government coercion has been
with us a long time. We know that. The great advances in liberty
have all come when individuals took up pen and arms against
government tyranny.

On one side are those of us who admire the values of the
Declaration of Independence, and on the other side are those
who admire a Cuban healthcare system that is so excellent that
Fidel had to import a Spanish physician to repair his botched
surgery.
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no defense
by doubtful1 June 16, 2007 8:36 PM PDT
all i did was challenge your statement that MM is to blame for government theft. that's a far cry from defending it.
you'd make a great politician. you're good at twisting words to suit your motives and finding one thing wrong with a progressive idea, then using it to condemn the whole idea.
the rest of the world is at least willing to try different ideas in order to progress. america is falling behind and the reason is simple.

profit before people.
Moore opposes copyright and supports filesharing
by nicmart June 17, 2007 5:28 PM PDT
The people downloading "Sicko" are justing taking Moore at his
word.

"I don't agree with copyright laws and I don't have a problem
with people downloading the movie and sharing it...as long as
they're not trying to make a profit off my labor...

"I make these movies and books and TV shows because I want
things to change, and so the more people who get to see them,
the better." -- Michael Moore

http://www.boingboing.net/2004/01/06/
michael_moore_endors.html
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relieved
by doubtful1 June 17, 2007 6:38 PM PDT
whew...
i feel a lot better.
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