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Palm thinks small with new Pixi smartphone

by Steven Musil
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Palm's new smartphone, the Pixi.

(Credit: Palm)

Hoping to capitalize on the momentum created by the release of its Pre smartphone, Palm on Wednesday will unveil a smaller, cheaper smartphone called Pixi.

Apparently geared toward younger consumers than those targeted by the Pre, the playfully named smartphone will be longer but slimmer than the Pre and will sport a smaller multitouch screen, a full QWERTY keyboard, and a 2-megapixel camera, Palm said. However, like its smartphone sibling, the 3.5-ounce Pixi will still have 8GB of memory and GPS capabilities.

In addition to a new Facebook application, the Pixi will also be able to integrate LinkedIn contacts and Yahoo contacts, calendar, and IM in a single view via Palm's Synergy feature.

"With Palm WebOS, we're creating a new, more intuitive smartphone experience defined by unmatched simplicity and usefulness," Jon Rubinstein, Palm chairman and chief executive officer, said in a statement. "Palm Pixi brings this unique experience to a broader range of people who want enhanced messaging and social networking in a design that lets them express their personal style."

The announcement of the Pixi comes less than four months after Palm began selling the Pre, which the company said registered record sales when it became available in June. The company did not discuss specific numbers that first week, but some analysts estimated that between 50,000 and 100,000 units were sold during the first weekend.

The move coincides with an announcement that Palm would drop the price of its Pre smartphone to $150 with a two-year service agreement and two rebates. Palm did not reveal the Pixi's price but did say it would be less than that of the Pre and that it was expected to be available to consumers in time for the holiday shopping season through Sprint. Palm also plans to offer artist-designed, limited edition replaceable back covers, which it plans to showcase at the Mercedes-Benz Fashion Week in New York, which starts Thursday.

On Tuesday, Sprint kicked off a short-lived promotion that offered customers of competing carriers a $100 service credit to anyone who bought a Palm Pre and ported his or her old number to Sprint. However, the offer was pulled after a few hours with Palm saying that it was posted in error.

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Steven Musil is the night news editor at CNET News. Before joining CNET News in 2000, Steven spent 10 years at various Bay Area newspapers. E-mail Steven.
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by smellati September 8, 2009 11:12 PM PDT
sprint does not need another webos device. att does.
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by jaguar717 September 9, 2009 3:44 AM PDT
The more the merrier--spread webOS around so the app availability can spread even faster than the iphone's did.

Something Cnet should've pointed out is that this phone doesn't have a wi-fi radio. That seems like a big step backwards to me considering that access points will only become more and more common. I wouldn't have downsized the Pre screen either--it's crisp and fine as is.

The same screen, wi-fi included, and an SD slot coupled with the super thin design would've made for a very formidable phone, and they could've just sold it as the Eos alongside the Pre as simply an alternative form factor. Instead they turned it into a "Pixi" and are marketing it as a cheaper phone for teenage girls. Because that's a demographic that will take advantage of all the openness and modability of webOS...
by Get_a_life_Leo September 9, 2009 5:39 AM PDT
This phone looks like it was designed for Pixies who have 20:20 vision. The Pre screen is already relatively small compared to other smartphones and the keyboard is tricky. This is a mini-me version. The Pixi phone seems to have been primarily designed to be cheaper than the Pre but hobbled so as not to compete with the Pre. Will see when it hits the stores (photos can be misleading) but the omission of Wifi is also a killer for a phone that is meant to be an Internet device. This ain't China!
by rapier1 September 9, 2009 8:06 AM PDT
@Jaguar & Get a Life,

The point of this phone is to lower the price point and introduce it to people who aren't willing to drop $200+ on a phone. Its difficult to do that if you maintain the same feature set as the more expensive phones.
by bennywhatever September 9, 2009 11:33 AM PDT
@rapier1
I agree. This move is all about price point. Before you know it, the holiday season will be here, and this phone will be golden if they can keep the price point down. I don't see the Pre getting any lower than 129.99 by Christmas, but the Pixi could potentially sell for $49.99. That's a heck of a deal for a webOS phone.
And let's face it - a lot of people getting the Pre aren't getting it because of the Wifi or the WebOS or Synergy. They're getting it because there's an ad campaign behind it, and it's the "cool" phone to get. The pixi will be perfect for kids that want the cool-factor of the Pre, but without the higher price point.
by carbine68 September 10, 2009 8:46 AM PDT
Will wait for it to come out on Verizon.
by hightechfanboy September 8, 2009 11:33 PM PDT
This is good news for palm pre owners, this will help bring more developers into palm camp. This means more apps to chose from, and better future for palm to support and keep perfecting WEBos which ike it or not is better at multitasking than anything outthere.
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by Proud_Geek September 9, 2009 11:12 PM PDT
...Including Windows?
by hightechfanboy September 15, 2009 1:26 AM PDT
yes including windows. before the palm pre i had a ppc6700 running windows 5. then i got the mogul running windows 6 and then i got a htc pro running windows 6.1, so i know about windows, i mean is good at multitasking but not as good as the pre when going from one app to another.
by forever4now September 8, 2009 11:34 PM PDT
Hummm...looks quite nice!

Palm should consider offering a BONDI-based SDK, for their smartphones:

http://bondisdk.limofoundation.org/

This would make developing for the Pre & Pixi an easier sell, since the apps & widgets would run on other smartphones, as well.
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by ikramerica--2008 September 9, 2009 12:29 AM PDT
Maybe this will inspire Apple to release a sidekick style iPhone (iPhone slide) or something. I'd trade my 3GS in for one, as even though I can use the touchscreen keyboard just fine, I'd like another option. Apple will look outdated if they stick to one form factor while Palm and Android phones come in all sorts of shapes and styles.
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by Splashes September 9, 2009 1:22 AM PDT
Every other phone manufacturer hopes that's true, but it's not. Even though Apple makes beautiful hardware, their strategy is software-based, not hardware-based. They differentiate themselves with software, not hardware, which is smart because hardware is easily duplicated, while software is not. The iPhone will never be outdated, because the OS gets updated, and you can always get new apps.

This is exactly what Steve Jobs talked about in his Jan. '07 keynote introduction of the iPhone. He said the problem with other smartphones is their hardware-based interface -- once the phone is shipped, there's no way to improve the interface.

And with the Pixi having different screen resolution from the Pre, it will complicate the lives of developers. Apple considers the single form-factor to be a good trade-off. They're not trying to cover the entire market -- just most of it. And they can ship the same hardware to the entire world, while having better localization than other phones. The perfect storm.

I truly wish Palm some good luck. They're gonna need it.
by ikramerica--2008 September 9, 2009 2:06 AM PDT
True, but an iPhone with the SAME resolution (just a smaller diagonal, so denser), and a slide away screen revealing a keyboard would be no more outdated than any other QWERTY device. It'll live on. There is no requirement that programs be written any differently. The OS would simply treat the keyboard input identically whether it comes from the hard keys or touch screen. Think mouse vs. trackball vs. touchpad. The apps care not which device does the input, as that's the OS's problem. They respond the same way no matter what.
by DrtyDogg September 9, 2009 12:28 PM PDT
@Splashes: I didn't see the part that said there where two different resolutions or did you make that up?
by Random_Walk September 12, 2009 8:18 AM PDT
"True, but an iPhone with the SAME resolution (just a smaller diagonal, so denser), and a slide away screen revealing a keyboard would be no more outdated than any other QWERTY device"

Problem is, it would have to be thicker... much thicker. I doubt that Apple is into bulking up their devices much...
by IanBro September 9, 2009 1:40 AM PDT
But didn't the Palm come out like 3 months? So it's kinda bit a waste to get Pixi.
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by ikramerica--2008 September 9, 2009 2:08 AM PDT
Pre is not selling well, at least as a draw to steal customers from ATT/iPhone. Sprint is giving $100 credits to entice people to join Sprint.

Palm's mistake was joining up with an even worse carrier than ATT in Sprint. Sprint has earned such a bad reputation over the years, a "killer phone" is not going to convince me or any other ex-Sprint customers to come back to them...
by rapier1 September 9, 2009 8:13 AM PDT
Actually, the sales numbers probably are pretty decent. Will they match the iPhone? Doubtful, but that doesn't mean its doing poorly. We'll find out more on the 17th when the figures are released. Also, a GSM version of the Pre should be released in a month or two and it won't be on Sprint. The big question is who will be picking it up. For some reason I don't see it on AT&T.
by Random_Walk September 12, 2009 8:22 AM PDT
"Pre is not selling well, at least as a draw to steal customers from ATT/iPhone."

I disagree partially - most of the Pre's sales are coming at the expense of Windows Mobile in the US, and Symbian (IIRC) if they're selling overseas, since those two mobile OS types are the ones suffering the hardest in respective US/global marketshares. And, the Pre is actually selling fairly decently. The Pre is certainly not enjoying the stratospheric growth that the iPhone is still enjoying, but the things are selling.
by chilich33z September 9, 2009 3:01 AM PDT
Sprints main problem is that its billing sucks. They have no control over minutes spent AND they only allow ONE outlet per metropolitan area to handle returns and billing issues. Good luck in San Diego - its a two hour wait to talk to someone - OR - you can talk to the FAMOUS Sprint Indian team.
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by jaguar717 September 9, 2009 3:39 AM PDT
I think I could put up with the call center in exchange for one of the cheaper plans available. My AT&T plan ends in about a week, and to get what Sprint offers for $69 (or the $55 I've been offered with discount) I'd have to spend >$100, which is a major reason I'm leaving them.

Interestingly enough, despite all the whining I see on here about AT&T, my signal has been just great. I don't have a full-browser phone yet, but every time I've accessed the internet or glanced at the service icon I've had a 3G connection.
by eyepoker September 9, 2009 8:56 AM PDT
I wont ever talk to india-based support - there are rumors... true or not, though i suspect the former, of them taking financial data (i.e., cc numbers) and selling them - don't ever give any Indian call center person any sensitive personal info.

On the up side, my experience in the indianapolis support center was pretty positive. 15min wait both times i went in. not bad at all. Yes, indianapolis is not the size of San Diego... so, i guess its all about the size of the market you are in.
by ncprince September 9, 2009 6:27 AM PDT
Personally I think the perception of Sprint is much worse that its reality. Sprints service is just fine and data prices are lower than any other out there.
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by datum226 September 9, 2009 6:38 AM PDT
Not sure why Palm is doing Nokia game by coming out with more of the same. At this point Pre has so many issues to fix and I think they should focus on that.
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by Seaspray0 September 9, 2009 3:19 PM PDT
What issues? You didn't mention any.
by Hoodgrown_Magazine September 12, 2009 6:37 AM PDT
"by tech_crazy September 9, 2009 9:57 AM PDT
Then you must not know MetroPCS and others. Metro has an all you can eat for 45. Granted they are not national like the big 4."


Sounds good until you get into an area in which MetroPCS has no coverage and start to incur "roaming charges". Hardly a "true" all you can eat service. Boost Mobile is better than Metro PCS.
by bluemoth29 September 9, 2009 7:55 AM PDT
Sprint, plans are the best. $99.99 all you can Eat!!!! no cell company can sat that.
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by tech_crazy September 9, 2009 9:57 AM PDT
Then you must not know MetroPCS and others. Metro has an all you can eat for 45. Granted they are not national like the big 4.
by NYTechie September 9, 2009 7:56 AM PDT
I like it--I think it looks good, the Pre was a little thick for my tastes (and pocket) and the sliding capability felt a little clunky with repetitive use. I loved the OS though and it solved all the problems that I have with my Curve (mostly the processor freaking out when I forgot to close an application and opened another one). The GPS is also a nice touch. I'm not so upset about the lack of WiFi. I never turn it on in my Curve because it drains the battery, always looking for a signal. I'm on TMobile EDGE network (there are currently no TMobile 3G Blackberry's) and it's not so slow that I feel the need to use WiFi.
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by bdoyle87 September 9, 2009 8:13 AM PDT
Looks sleek, but looks like a lot of space was wasted where the screen could be bigger or the keys could be bigger
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by Rod Roddy September 9, 2009 8:30 AM PDT
Zoolander style cellphones, here we come!!!!!
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by eyepoker September 9, 2009 8:49 AM PDT
has anyone noticed the cordless charging station? to my knowledge, Palm is the only company (i don't know everything so surely there are others) with devices that do not require a cord to charge, rather, they must be in proximity to the charging base. There has to be a corded option though, yes/no?
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by Perry_Clease September 9, 2009 9:07 AM PDT
From what I read on the Palm website the Pixi is Touchstone "compatible." My interpretation of that statement is that the Pixi comes with corded charger, but you can use the cordless Touchstone if you want.
by jaxstephens September 9, 2009 11:23 AM PDT
I imagine the cutesy name alone will keep this out of the hands of many in the male demographic. I wonder if they really considered and intended that.
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by Seaspray0 September 9, 2009 3:22 PM PDT
That's only half of it. I'm sure there are plenty of men who will be attracted to the manufacturer name... palm.
by Proud_Geek September 9, 2009 11:14 PM PDT
@Seaspray0
LOL!!!!!
Nice one!
by Austinite007 September 9, 2009 2:09 PM PDT
Oh man, I would like to see how Sprint handles their Everything Data/Simply Everything plan requirement for this phone. Current Palm Centro customers with awesome grandfathered rate plans who are looking to upgrade to the Palm Pixi are not going to be happy about being forced to also upgrade to a much more expensive current rate plan to get a phone with a way too familiar hardware design.
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by habassa5 September 9, 2009 2:32 PM PDT
Pixi is such a feminine name. I don't think a lot of men would want a buy a "Pixi." Stupid marketing when you alienate half of your potential customers. Of course, this is the same marketing team that brought us those awful Pre commercials. Heads should roll.
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by ecabello64 September 9, 2009 6:43 PM PDT
so true, what were they thinking? This is the VW Beetle (with the daisy) of the cell phone market. Bad call!
by Proud_Geek September 9, 2009 11:15 PM PDT
Yeah that Palm Pre ad ... that one with the white woman in a dress, surrounded by (supposedly) Tibetan monks? ... yeah, that's pretty gay.
by Dan7637 September 9, 2009 3:20 PM PDT
they obviously think everyone has minature hands and that this is for women becuase no guy i know would be caught with a phone with a fruity name like pixi

also they should put a new keyboard instead of making it look like a crap centro keyboard

another cheap looking device
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by Proud_Geek September 9, 2009 11:16 PM PDT
Maybe it is targeted at kids. Most kids don't have big fat pudgy hands.

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by nSeika September 9, 2009 3:29 PM PDT
Not like either this or the Pre would came out of Sprint?s exclusive deal any time soon elsewhere (and not just the US or Europe). The sooner it?s released internationally, the better.
This is just like the Zune.

If Wi-Fi is the only drawback, it probably wouldn?t bother that much if it?s priced with cheaper price as it deserve to lose the Wi-Fi; hopefully as cheap as the price drop when trying to sell a second-hand phone with broken Wi-Fi.
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by sunny0121 September 10, 2009 12:34 AM PDT
I don't think the cheaper price of the new phone will appeal much if you take the 2-year plan cost into consideration. Would you be using the inferior phone for two years just to save the relatively small upfront fee?
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by quamaine22 September 10, 2009 7:44 AM PDT
can i trade in my palm pre for the palm pixi at no charge.
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by TechnoMan475392 September 11, 2009 8:00 PM PDT
No...you have to buy the new phone.

And besides-why would you want to?
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