July 29, 2009 6:04 AM PDT

Sprint's customer losses continue in 2nd quarter

by Marguerite Reardon
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Updated 8:57 a.m. PDT with information from the conference call.

Despite improvements in its network reliability and customer service, Sprint Nextel is still losing high-value customers as the company reported a wider-than-expected loss for the second quarter of 2009.

The company reported a loss of $384 million, or 13 cents a share, compared with a loss of $344 million, or 12 cents a share, during the same quarter a year ago.

Revenue also fell about 10 percent to $8.14 billion. Analysts had expected a loss of 2 cents a share on revenue of $8.13 billion, according to the Reuters news service.

As it has done in recent quarters, Sprint lost valuable post-paid customers--that is, subscribers--in the quarter just ended, albeit at a slower rate. CEO Dan Hesse said during the company's conference call with investors and analysts that Sprint has made significant progress in improving its customer satisfaction ratings, but he admitted the company is still dogged by continued customer losses.

Over the past seven quarters, Sprint has lost nearly 7 million subscribers--during the second quarter it shed about 991,000 of them, an improvement over the 1.25 million lost in the first quarter. These are high-value customers who typically sign a contract and pay monthly for their service. They tend to spend more per month than customers paying in advance for services.

Meanwhile, competitors AT&T and Verizon Wireless each added subscribers during the second quarter. AT&T added 1.4 million customers in the second quarter and Verizon Wireless added 1.1 million subscribers.

Sprint managed to improve its churn rate, or the rate at which the company's post-paid subscribers ditch its service for another provider's service, in the second quarter. But this rate was still higher than it was a year ago and still higher than rivals AT&T and Verizon Wireless. Sprint's churn rate in the second quarter was 2.05 percent, down from 2.25 percent in the first quarter. This was also higher than the 1.98 percent churn rate the company reported for the same quarter a year earlier.

Hesse said that retaining existing customers and adding new ones is a priority for the company.

"We have to increase the number of gross adds on the post-paid side," he said. "We need to have more customers coming in and a higher percentage of customers on contract. The overall issue for us is to turn around this post-paid trend."

Hesse said that the company has greatly improved customer service and network reliability. As a result its service is scoring higher in customer satisfaction surveys, but he said that it will take a long time for these improvements to manifest in improved subscriber numbers and churn rate.

"The trend line we've seen for the past three years is a reduction sequentially in gross subscriber additions," he said. "We've been working hard to mitigate that and slow the decline. We are making significant progress. But it takes a while for customer perception to catch up with reality."

Hesse blamed much of the recent customer declines on the ailing U.S. economy. A large portion of Sprint's post-paid subscribers are business customers. While these customers tend to be more loyal and generate more revenue than consumers, currently these customers are spending less on services as companies layoff employees. Hesse explained that these corporate customers aren't canceling their contracts entirely, but they are deactivating phones, which affects the company's overall subscriber count and revenue.

A boost from Boost Mobile
On a positive note, Sprint did gain strength in its prepaid business. The company added some 938,000 new prepaid customers to its Boost Mobile brand during the quarter. This was more than analysts had expected, which forecast a gain of between 500,000 and 900,000 new customers. Boost's $50 unlimited voice and data plan, which launched in January, likely helped attract many new prepaid customers.

Executives on the conference call said that Boost customers, which use Sprint's iDEN network, are starting to spend more per month on their service. And the churn is improving. But the company does see that these customers use about twice as many voice minutes and data services than post-paid iDEN customers. Still, Sprint says that it has upgraded the network to ensure it can keep up with demand.

When the unlimited service first launched, some Boost customers complained of delayed text messages. But that issue has supposedly been resolved.

In an effort to bolster its prepaid business, Sprint announced on Tuesday that it plans to spend $483 million to buy prepaid provider Virgin Mobile USA. Hesse wouldn't provide details about how Sprint will integrate the Virgin Mobile service into its overall prepaid strategy, but he said that the acquisition should help the company grow this part of the business.

"We see an opportunity to use the two brands (Boost Mobile and Virgin Mobile) very effectively," he said. "The Boost brand has traditionally been strong in its segments, and our unlimited offering is expanding the relevance of that service, which is why gross additions are up. Virgin has historically been very strong in the youth market. And we think that these two brands are better than one."

Some analysts question the profitability of prepaid services and inexpensive unlimited services like the one Boost offers. But Hesse said that the company is already making profits on the Boost unlimited service. He argued that it's easier and less expensive to acquire prepaid customers because they don't have to sign long-term contracts. Prepaid services also help mitigate the company's exposure to customers who rack up large bills and don't pay them, he said.

He added that the key to making prepaid more profitable is reducing the churn rate on this service. And he explained that the unlimited plan has helped do that.

"You get big profit swings on prepaid by improving churn," he said. "We see big changes here with improvements in network quality and the simplicity of our plans. We don't think we can get to post-paid churn levels. But we can get closer. And then we'd expect prepaid to be even more profitable even as we increase capacity on the network."

Getting a grip on the Palm Pre
Sprint also launched the much anticipated Palm Pre during the second quarter. Hesse said he was very pleased with the sales of the device, calling the launch of the device in early June the most successful the company has ever had. But he would not provide specific numbers about how many devices have been sold.

He did say that the early sales of the device were mostly to existing Sprint customers, who were looking to upgrade to new devices. Most of these customers were loyal Palm customers who had been waiting for a new and improved smartphone from Palm. But now, he said the company is starting to stock its non-Sprint retail channels, such as Radio Shack and Best Buy, with Palm Pres, which should help expand the customer base to attract people not yet using Sprint's service.

Hesse acknowledged that the introduction of the new iPhone 3GS on AT&T's network in mid-June caused a slight increase in customer churn, but he said the launch of the Palm Pre and the BlackBerry Tour helped stem the losses.

"When there is a new device launch, like the iPhone, which is a real hero device, we see a blip in increased churn," he said. "So I don't want to lead you to believe there was no impact with the iPhone 3GS. But I think we mitigated the impact with our new devices.

Currently, the Palm Pre is exclusive to Sprint. But that exclusivity is likely to run out at year's end. Verizon Wireless's chief operating officer Denny Strigl announced on the company's conference call earlier this week that Verizon Wireless plans to offer the phone starting in early 2010. Hesse would not comment specifically about when the exclusivity deal with Palm would expire, but he reiterated earlier assertions that the deal will run into 2010.

Despite Hesse's continued assertions that things are improving at Sprint, it appears that investors see the continued customer losses as a negative for the company. The company's stock was trading down more than 9 percent on Wednesday.

Marguerite Reardon has been a CNET News reporter since 2004, covering cell phone services, broadband, citywide Wi-Fi, the Net neutrality debate, as well as the ongoing consolidation of the phone companies. E-mail Maggie.
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by stepyourgameup July 29, 2009 6:41 AM PDT
Sprint SUCKS. You can't even get reliable service at their World Headquarters in Kansas City.
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by UITD July 29, 2009 9:06 AM PDT
Verizon Wireless is no better. You know those commercials that brag about how this couple made a choice to buy a home is what the neighbors warned them as a "dead zone" because with Verizon Wireless there are no dead zones? Well, we bought in the dead zone and they couldnt give two *****. Not even their CEO's secretary gave a *****. She told me to "go explore other carriers, sir". Nice, eh? How's THAT for A) lying commercials, B) rude customer service? The grass isnt any greener on the other side - or should I say, the connection isnt any better on the other carriers.

One thing, of many, that is pathetic is that its 2009 and my BAG phone, from back in 1987, worked 100x better than the crap they offer us these days. Its 2009 and they still cant get voice to work. Its 2009 and all they're concerned with is giving new customers deals while treating existing customers like *****. Nothing changes.
by eeee July 29, 2009 12:56 PM PDT
this is your thrill to get in the first comment: NO MATTER HOW FREAKING OFF THE WALL IT IS !!!!!
by cnote1287 August 6, 2009 12:30 PM PDT
I have great signal up in the chicago area. better than At&t.....one of the reasons i wont change to the iphone.
by BlitzBoy1120 July 29, 2009 6:47 AM PDT
I feel that Sprint is actually a great carrier, held down by the lack of phones that ALWAYS need the Everything Plan. They also have a lack of free phones which are typically the best way to get new subscribers. I was a Sprint customer, and now I'm Verizon, but I cannot say that Verizon really does something that Sprint can't.
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by thabassman July 29, 2009 6:57 AM PDT
Same case here. Sprint to verizon. however... i LOST service in a sprint store in metro atlanta, among other places. I live in a populated area, but I find myself low on bars lots of times. That speaks for itself. Verzion has far better phones, far better service, and FAAAR better customer support. Not to mention a 3G network that actually works. I can't say verizon dosen't do anything sprint can't because it would be a lie, but sprint isn't as bad as media says. Still a TERRIBLE company, but it could be worse.
by DMAN3k July 29, 2009 7:10 AM PDT
Yeah, my now $20 SERO plan is the only reason I'm staying with Sprint. (It was $25 with a $5 discount, but Sprint just gave me another $5.)

500 minutes (Free nights and weekends starting at 7PM)
Unlimited Data
Unlimited Text
But no GPS

Not to mention I cannot upgrade to a decent phone since the release of Samsung Instinct, where Sprint forces SERO users to "upgrade" to a Everything Plus Data plan for $60 with just 450 minutes (with GPS). So why should I pay $40 more a month for a prettier phone?

The only alternative is to get the EPD Family Plan with 4 people which would average out to 400 minutes at $35 (1600 shared minutes at $140). But I'm now paying $20 a month; when it was $25 a month, I was slightly considering paying $10 more for a Pre. Why would I want to pay $15 more or $180 a year more for the Pre? Even if I assume that my $10 discount stays with the account, it still average out to be $32.50 a person, $12.50 more a month; and I'm not even considering the other 3 people.

Understandably, this plan is outright ridiculous and Sprint probably is only making $1 profit a month from me. But, hey, it's not my problem if their system is messed up and their customer service has the perception of being bad. I had a lot of customer service problems when I first started with Sprint, but I called them recently and they solved the new problems quickly and I was fully satisfied with their support. So yeah, their customer service has improved, but the system hasn't!

I have to switch carrier to even port parents' numbers over to my account so we can even get on the EPD Family Plan while keeping our numbers. Port to a prepaid phone, and port it back to Sprint. This is ridiculous, especially if I'm porting to Boost!
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by eeee July 29, 2009 1:17 PM PDT
please explain what a SERO plan is________?
by sellersce July 29, 2009 7:11 AM PDT
I think that Sprint is a great carrier. I was with them for about 7 years when I decided to try Verizon because the company I worked for got a discount. I was still paying way more with Verizon with a discount than I was with Sprint. The call service was about the same on both networks but I had huge issues with text messages not going through on Verizon. Anyway, I went back to Sprint and have very little issues. I don't see any reason to pay more for pretty much the same service.
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by Deontrae_Pace August 29, 2009 11:52 PM PDT
Thank you for that comment on Sprint. Power to the people!

Enjoy your Sprint Service.
by einbit July 29, 2009 7:22 AM PDT
I had been with Sprint for about 7 years, I enjoyed the phones and the plans what I did not like and it seemed to to get worse and worse was their coverage, I live on the Space Coast, FL and I was not able to use my phone while at the beach or the Space Center Visitor complex, and they are promoting the largest 3G network....... it would be nice if it was true. Im with AT&T like the phone, customer service is not all that great, their plans are so so, but I can use my phone anywhere, no dropped calls, weak signals.
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by cnote1287 August 6, 2009 12:38 PM PDT
My family has always used At&t and weve had nothing but problems. In our house we live we NEVER get decent service.....2 bars at the most. We even called at&t to ask them about it and you know what their response was? "Oh your located right between 2 towers......the signal is the weakest in your area" we asked if they could do anything and their response was to try other carriers......now were with sprint and get near full signal everywhere in our area. true story.
by peterwhite July 29, 2009 7:33 AM PDT
I'm with Sprint now and have been for about 12 years. I spend most of my time in the Pacific Northwest with frequent travel to major cities and a few recreational trips to not so big cities. My service has never really been an issue for me anywhere I've traveled. In fact, my single issue has been that my home reception is great upstairs (5 bars) but only (3 bars) in the daylight basement - weird. Also, I have never EVER dropped a call - I never understand those commercials from other carriers because it hasn't happened to me (other than standing inside a n underground garage elevator and watching the bars go to one then none).

Because of my work I've carried a second phone with AT&T (when it was AT&T Wireless), Verizon, T-Mobile, and then AT&T (post Cingular take over). I've had tons more issues with those carriers. I liked the convenience of my T-Mobile auto hopping onto Rodgers and Orange (international) but the phone itself seemed pretty cheesy. Same with my first AT&T. Now I'm using my personal phone for both home and business since I showed my boss that my Palm Pre and everything plan means no more overages of any kind whatsoever. (don't worry, I had my IT & HR departments sign a form acknowledging the phone number belongs to me - plus I have them reimburse me directly, not the carrier). Anyway, just a few random thoughts ...
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by July 29, 2009 7:44 AM PDT
Sprint does suck...They sent me a letter to inform me I was now "Premier" customer and that I could upgrade my phone and receive the $150 discount (after 12 months instead of the normal 22 months). Well needless to say, when I tried this, I was denied the $150 discount and was told to send them a copy of the letter I had received, to verify the discount. What kind of company does this kind of business? They do not even have communication between themselves let alone customer service. When my contract ends, it's off to AT&T
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by thelemurking July 29, 2009 8:45 AM PDT
call to cancel your contract, they will offer you all sorts of freebies and goodies to get you to stay.
by cnote1287 August 6, 2009 12:41 PM PDT
After about 18 months i think you become eligible for an upgrade.(and 2 year contract extension).....at&t does this too.....except they forgot to tell my parents that it would extend their contract......my parents were looking to get out of att but now they are stuck there for 2 more years
by ANS79 August 27, 2009 11:03 AM PDT
Sprint has a loooooong way to go in customer service and I wouldn't be surprised if they keep loosing more and more customers. The CSR's don't really care if someone stays with Sprint or moves on.
by J5Chicago July 29, 2009 7:49 AM PDT
Phone exclusivity is killing Sprint. Besides the Pre, what was the last handset that they pushed really hard? The Instinct? Yikes, that wasn't their finest hour. It also took them forever to get a Moto RZR (remember that?).

I have had Sprint for many many years because they beat almost every other carrier in Chicago but they've gotta step up and provide some serious devices soon or they'll see more and more subscribers slip away. It wouldn't be a bad idea to take a page from a company like Orange or O2 in the UK. Make the hardware easy to get (affordable) and make your money on the plan. Or better yet give new phones to current and new customers for the same price. That would be an industry first in America. Why should loyalty be punished?

Come on Sprint! I'm rooting for you! Just get it going already. Oh, and they could do with an easier to navigate website for current subscribers, because, I mean, damn, it's 2009 and all.
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by sting7k July 29, 2009 8:01 AM PDT
I guess the Pre isn't their savior after all. Sorry Sprint, Palm had better get it on Verizon quick or a GSM version out if they don't want to go down with them.
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by christophercrob July 29, 2009 8:20 AM PDT
I was a Sprint customer for almost 9 years. I had been an AT&T customer for 4 years before that. I stayed with Sprint because of inexpensive data plans. Their coverage was so-so, but not much different from AT&T and better than T-Mobile. The customer service is what forced me to leave. The CSRs I had to interact with (when I could even get through) seemed determined to push me to another carrier. I finally did last month.
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by penguin_wk July 29, 2009 10:09 AM PDT
Agree 100% with this comment. I too was with Sprint 7 years, been with AT&T for the last 3. Sprint had competetive coverage within the Seattle area. In terms of coverage, AT&T seems to beat Sprint only the few times I travel internationally. When I last spoke to Sprint CS 3 years ago, it was the last straw. The unresponsive (and quite honestly rude) CSR convinced me to cancel my plan immediately in spite of early cancellation and move to AT&T. Personally, Sprint CS went so far to offend a long time customer that I would never return my business regardless of any changes to Sprint's management.
by Deontrae_Pace August 29, 2009 11:58 PM PDT
Welcome to Sprint.
by slapppy July 29, 2009 8:22 AM PDT
The Pre didn't do squat at all. Those sales numbers are so bad Sprint is too chicken to post them. The Pre was a big FAIL!
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by thelemurking July 29, 2009 8:43 AM PDT
Sprint rarely posts numbers. Sprint rarely does anything that makes sense. I imagine the Pre is a great phone, but it will be better when it gets on a better network that actually cares.
by thelemurking July 29, 2009 8:38 AM PDT
Maybe Sprint should have went with Android a whole lot sooner

I left Sprint after the huge disaster that was the Samsung Instinct. Sprint's support for the Instinct was a failure of epic proportions. Each update actually made the phone worse than the previous. Several times the updates were so bad that they had to be rolled back and you were downgraded to the previous version.

I had so many problems with the Instinct that I finally gave up and went to AT&T for the iPhone 3G S. It's only been a little over a month, but OMG what a difference. I know a lot of people complain about AT&T, but apparently those people have never been on Sprint. Sprint's customer service was absolutely dreadful. It wasn't until I actually called to cancel my phone that I actually got a person with intelligence. The guy was well spoken, polite and seemed to be intelligent which was a first for me when dealing with Sprint. Previously I could have swore that Sprint had outsourced their support to some prison labor camp in the middle of South Carolina.

I am well aware that network service varies by city to city, but where I live, AT&T obliterates Sprint's coverage. I have not encountered any dead zones yet, where with Sprint, there were several close by that I always hit. Also, network speed, AT&T is much faster than Sprint in my area.

After around 9 years with Sprint, I now wonder why I didn't switch sooner. Although as much as I love my iPhone, I am incredibly displeased with Apple's constant rejection of great apps. W T F Apple?
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by gompol July 29, 2009 10:09 AM PDT
Time to open up the Pre to Sero customers.
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by mrbofus July 29, 2009 10:32 AM PDT
What I don't understand is why Sprint is still charging $199 (after $100 rebate, no less) for the Palm Pre. Apple/AT&T sell the 8GB iPhone 3G for $99, so why is the 8GB Palm Pre $299 before rebate? Or you could get the 16GB iPhone 3GS for $199. I would imagine if Palm/Sprint lowered the price on the Pre to match the iPhone 3G, they would gain a lot more subscribers. It's hard to tell people, "well, you could get the Palm Pre for $299 or you could get the iPhone 3G for $99, the 16GB iPhone 3GS for $199, or the 32GB iPhone 3GS for $299."

At this point, not only does Palm have to compete against the halo effect that the iPhone has, they also have to compete in terms of real dollars. I know they're struggling financially, as is Sprint, but when you can get a similar phone for half the price at AT&T or a similar phone with twice the capacity for the same price on AT&T, it's not hard to see why AT&T is gaining subscribers and Sprint is losing subscribers.
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by blueshore July 29, 2009 11:18 AM PDT
Here is the nice cell panorama in PR. (Not in any particular order)
Sprint -Basically works fine if you are near any mayor city and highway (they used to have a lot of problems, specially with roaming issues). 3G works fair to good (No so good on the Metro area at peak times). Customer service has improved A LOT (but they still need to shape up a little more).
AT&T -Has a similar situation, but they have more voice coverage and less 3G coverage. They used to lag a lot (3 to 6 months) to introduce new phone models, but these day are basically lack of inventory for the latest models (which is basically the norm).
T-Mobile -(from Suncom to AT&T to Suncom to T-Mobile, like that Simpons episode), has a very good coverage area (possibly by using some of the AT&T towers). They don't offer 3G yet, but they keep saying that is comming soon. Well, at least they have their latest phones available.
Claro -(if you believe that Verizon is (or is not) evil, well... they decide to sell the phone and cell operations to America Movil...) They are currently replacing their CDMA network (still in operations due to Verizon contractual obligations and some FCC requirements) for a GSM network (which America Movil is based upon), which causes a lot of problems for customers. Customer services is not good at its best. They used to have a nice coverage, but right now is basically ask for good luck trying to connect inside their own network, and a miracle to some other carrier. 3G is a fine mess (It was better than Sprint on CDMA, but slower on GSM).
Centennial -(about to be take over by AT&T) Has better coverage that Sprint (and posibbly they are providing roaming for Sprint) and a nice 3G network, however it is quite saturated on some cities.
OpenMobile -used to be Telefonica Movistar, but they went belly-up and reform into OpenMobile. A concept like Ocean or Boost (prepaid, all you can eat service). Good coverage, with some dead spots, and a no so fast data network.
There also a nice set of prepaid cell services (Virgin Mobile, Net10, Tracphone) that works fine, depending on the carrier.
As you notice there are SIX carrier in a island not larger than Connecticut. And there is the catch that PR has a lot of mountains, which puts the antennas to work at full power (which will also explain why the cell battery lifespan and duration is about half of what it says on the owners manual).
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by eeee July 29, 2009 1:14 PM PDT
Good comments blueshore
when a phone is not receiving any cell tower signal or is on the network with a weak signal from the cell tower, the phone automatically switches to a higher transmit power and therefore uses up its battery charge faster; just as you say in your last paragraph.
When the local tower where I live had a power failure once, my phone battery died out in the evening because it was trying to connect to any other cell tower and using full power (600mw I believe) to do so and the battery died out. Normally I get 5 bars at home and can go into the next day before having to recharge my phone
by AluminumMonster July 29, 2009 11:21 AM PDT
Well i dont have Sprint, but my mom, and sister do. Whenever i would use their phone i would get horrible echoing, and alot of static (Metro Detroit Area). When they call me i can barely hear them.

TLDR
Sprint is terrible, but so are ATT, Verizon, and everyone else just Sprint moreso.
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by sellersce July 29, 2009 11:23 AM PDT
Those of you with issues with your Sprint service at home should check out the Airave. It's a device that plugs into your home network that acts like a mini cell tower. It has a nice coverage range and should give you 5 bars. It only works with Cable or DSL. Thanks to this device I was able to cancel my home phone! The device cost $100 and has a $5 monhtly fee, but worth every penny. If you call and complain they will probably send you out on for free.
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by joanajay July 29, 2009 11:56 AM PDT
I dumped Sprint years ago because of their lousy customer service and switched to a 200 minute Verizon contract because I don't use my cell phone that much. After bothering to read a bill a few months ago, the little I could understand was I was paying $29.99 in monthly access charges, 80 cents for a received text message, $1.77 for wireless surcharges, and $5.89 in taxes. That month I used under 30 minutes. And I was getting bad reception all the time. Dump the whole lot of them is all I have to say! I wised up and got myself a Net10 prepaid phone. I pay a flat $25 a month for 250 minutes. I can call anywhere in the country. I have no roaming charges, and I can make international calls for the same price as a local call! Take that and stuff it Verizon and Sprint!
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by eeee July 29, 2009 1:01 PM PDT
Been with Nextel for about 8 years and must say that the voice quality on the iDen network to other Nextel IDEn users is vastly superior to the Verizon or Sprint or TMobile echoy, quacky, or just plain bad voice wulaity of the friends and relatives who use Verizon, Sprint or Tmobile networks.
Sprint CDMA is different technology than Nextel iDen networks
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by ArsFragica July 29, 2009 1:01 PM PDT
im not surpised with the shiztty commercials of the palm pre that doesnt make no dam sense that they dont get any good bizniz
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